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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 13 2012 10:48 GMT
#2651
On February 13 2012 19:05 Forumite wrote:
Whatever. You say you have a red check, we´ll know soon.

##vote Radfield


He is trolling. he's not a DT, doesnt have a check on Radfield. Instead he is a Vig ( harley quinn) that shot radfield nigth 1 and was RB nigth two.

@Palmar : What makes you beleive Radfield is Scum and not Batman. You changed your mind on him but did not give any reason. Are you really expecting us to blindly follow a lynch like that ?

As for now, we have no reason to lynch Radfield. He has given us Sheth early day 2, and it really did not look like a scum move. He maybe is DT, maybe Batman as Palmar initially claimed. The only reason for lynching him would be to protect Toad if Rad is batman. And as stated multiple time in this thead lynching scum is better than lynching 3rd party.

Why not lynching you instead forumite :

* You jumped on newly created Radfield Bandwagon despite having NO reason to do so ( other than 'palmar told me' when it is obvious he is faking his DT claim).

* You voted sheth reluctanctly day 2 :

On February 10 2012 00:56 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 00:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 10 2012 00:34 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 10 2012 00:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Looking through rG's filter I have to retract some of my claims against him. He didn't claim actual immortality, so his later statements are consistent. It's consistent with his first DT (no name) claim too.

I just don't understand why he got a guilty read on me if I'm Clayface but that discussion isn't going anywhere until he comes back to this thread.


what about clayface hidden stuff. you appear randomly as someone when checked. because you can turn into anything. Basically a flavoured miller.


he'd know that himself because there would something telling him
you appear randomly as someone when checked. because you can turn into anything. Basically a flavoured miller.

in his role pm. Apparently it's not.
And I don't see how lynching a bunch of mafias is a bad idea forumite. What's up with you? Not to mention that a "He is Batman" read is WAAAAY harder to do than a "he is not town read".
You're telling us to lynch someone we think might end being batman. What happens if palmar and I am wrong about this? Yeah it makes sense and it looks like Rad is batman but I'm not going to jump off a cliff if he's not to quote what palmar said.
If lynching palmar turns out bad we're screwed BIG TIME. There is NOT A SINGLE reason to lynch radfield right now given his claim.

It sounded like Palmar was 100% sure that Radfield is Batman, you are saying that you are doubting this now? In that case, why did Palmar claim Joker in the first place? Wasn´t it to be able to make the deal with Radfield? If it doesn´t matter who the Batman is, if it´s not Radfield, then there´s nothing stopping him from ignoring us and going on a rampage, is there?

I think it´s a crazy plan, one of many in this game, but fine, I´ll play along. Let´s kill Sheth.


##unvote Radfield
##vote Liquid`Sheth



This post is scummy in several ways. First you do not seem wild about lynching Sheth. Why ? On day 1, you were all for lynching him, but now "it is a crazy plan". You are contradicting yourself here. Secondly, "it is a crazy plan " on day 2, and now that sheth has flipped scum, as radfield predicted, You blindly accept to lynch radfield based on a obviously false DT check. It doesnt make sense. It looks like you really want Radfield dead, and it doesnt make sense as town, but it really makes sense as scum.

Therefore, You are scum.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 14 2012 10:16 GMT
#3130
Looks like I was 100% wrong on Radfield. I really did not see scum offer Sheth to us on a silver plate. Reading the last 10 pages to try to understand what happened while I slept.

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 15 2012 16:20 GMT
#3306
On February 15 2012 22:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 22:24 Forumite wrote:
Why Tyrran?


Because he's obvious scum.


I'm not scum, just bad townie that wasn't able to follow a massive spam thread. Shoot me at night if you want me dead, but for now, lets lynch scum.

As for now :

With Radfield lync being that close, it is unlikely that any scum player that would have voted for him didnt switch to chaoser ( who we know was town) Therefore Forumite, tunkeg, quails, palmar, adam4167, katina and kurumi should not be the focus of town today. We have a much higher chance to find scum outside of these people.

This leaves ( I have highligthed my stronger reads) :

hiro protagonist :

On February 11 2012 15:09 hiro protagonist wrote:
WBG is not stupid enough as scum to try and re-direct a lynch from his scum buddy when He had a DT check and 20+ votes on him with hours left in the day. But you know, thats just WIFOM i guess, but why make the effort to look stupid?


Yeah, he is scum. Voted for Sheth day1 , but so did radfield so its entirely possible they decided early that they were going to buss him.

rgtheschworz : As much as I dislike his play this game, I think he is town. Most likely blue ( or his play would make 0 sense). His role should be pretty obvious.

risk.nuke :Town read on him.

rayzorflash : no idea.

evantrees :

On February 13 2012 06:27 evantrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:53 Tunkeg wrote:
I want to lynch Evantrees today.

Reason 1: Votes

He was one of the ones who hammered through the CC lynch. He voted him late and for apparantly no good reason. Only BM and WBG were later voting for him than.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352&currentpage=4#73

He was also the last person voting for Sheth, and it seems like a vote to save face:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352&currentpage=6#120

His reasons for voting have been non-existent, these are his 3 "vote" posts:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 08 2012 12:02 evantrees wrote:
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

Proper voting format is

##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?


On February 09 2012 18:52 evantrees wrote:
48 hour day cycle, Day ends at 11pm est Thursday.
huh, Isn't it thursday morning now?

Tunkeg brought up something that bugs me.

I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case.

So what about millers?

I really like the idea behind jackals role.

I have no problem voting for someone based on getting utter nonsense from them.
Lets hear something Schworz, until them.

##Vote rgTheSchworz

Also Palmer and Radfield are still alive interesting.

ninja'd+ Show Spoiler +
On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit?

Did you not claim to be Two-Face and lie about being masoned with Toadesstern?


I do not recall anything like that.


On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.

He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)

So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim.


On February 09 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote:
we're masoned (ie: we know each other's alignment, confirmed by host).




On February 11 2012 10:24 evantrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 10:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also why is BM not spamming the thread?


Palmer is doing the job for him.

I am hoping he flips scum so might as well clean up the vote tally list a bit.

##unvote rgtheschworz
##Vote Liquid'Sheth




Reason 2: Filter of nothingness
His filter have no hard stands on anything. Basicly just fluff and one post where he says chaoser is scum, without any reasoning. Nothing that will give him any attention, nothing that will hold him accountable for anything:

On February 10 2012 08:38 evantrees wrote:
Kurumi I like you for some damned reason.

On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes

Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die.


Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch.

Which players do you think are hurting town the most?
Too much spam!

Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda?
chaoser, he was anyways.

Which players do you think are scum?
chaoser



In this crazy game of spam and mad claims and speculations I find posters like Evantrees the most scummy.

Vote ##Evantrees


The vote for sheth was more about saving space than face and I was hoping he flipped scum so why not.
Please at least include the actual terrible reasons for voting cheese.
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 13:12 evantrees wrote:
I think Chaoser is scum, but that may just be me being bitter.
The two main reasons I voted for Cyber_Cheese on day 1, Believing sheth and this. Was rather up in the air about who to vote for.
On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking.



On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:
kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots.

Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum:

On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player.


Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?

On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here.


Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea.


Word

I tried to avoid posting to much nonsense and speculation. Given I like to complain about such things.
I did post this in the phone QT, though honestly surprised gut has gone 1/3 and not 0/3 so far slardar being scum was the other one.

evantrees
02-07-2012
10:58 PM ET (US)

for reference crazy gut says,
Cyber_Cheese is catwoman not batman
and WBG is scum.


"Hey look i'm not scum because I guessed WBG was scum and posted it in the phone QT while doing NOTHING AT ALL to prove it or even suggest it in the main thread".... Actually, that makes you scum.

visceraeyes : No idea. He is bussing hiro so i guess he is town ?

jaybrundage: Leaning scum.

jayjay54 :Town read on him

And me : Not contributing much, and wrong on all my reads. I dont look good. Shoot me if I dont make you beleive i'm town by nigth. But dont waste a lynch on me.

Also Kurumi being CW makes sense. As stated before, killing him would reduce anti town KP, so i'm all up for that.

Kurumi, Hiro, and Evantrees are all valid lynch for me.How about lynching Kurumi then shooting Hiro and Evan (Penguin and Batman)?
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 13:36 GMT
#3417
You got me wrong, so better take that into account.

If we count Batman on our side, we have 1 lynch and two hits per night ( batman/penguin). Scum have 4 hits including CW. But we only need 4 hits to get rid of them and they need 10. If we dont misslynch we should win.

Adam : How did you remove Evantrees and Hiro from you potential scumlist ? I have posted specific post that make them scum in my eyes. What makes you think they are town ?
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 15:17 GMT
#3461
@rG : Are you two-face's bodyguard ?
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 15:37 GMT
#3478
On February 17 2012 00:31 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Two-face will prolly not claim because of this.
I suggest strongly he claims.
We lynch nuke and forumite.


Why lynch forumite? If you really are MrFreeze and not Two face body guard, then risk.nuke is Hugo and he should be lynched. If you are lying then you should be hung.

Basically, one of you/risk is scum

We should wait for Forumite to claim. That should help us identifying the scum among you.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 16:25 GMT
#3506
On February 17 2012 01:19 Kurumi wrote:
Also I am not Catwoman.
I am Jack of All Trades.
and my name is Alfred Pennyworth.


On January 24 2012 14:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Note:
Some names appear under 2 categories. These players will have to decide to be one or the other for their role. They are not both. Some roles might also have slight alterations to the "standard" although nothing game breaking. Not all names listed are guarenteed to be in this game, however only names listed will be in this game. Each role, much like Asylum, will have unique flavour text to make the gf style roles have more fun with the game. See Arkham Asylum for flavour text examples that I used for when you submit your role choice.



Nice try tho.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#3507
On February 17 2012 01:15 Tunkeg wrote:
So based on these claims we got the following options:

A) Risk is lieing
B-1) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Hugo.
B-2) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Batman.
B-3) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Catwomen.
C) Risk is telling the truth, rg is lieing, forumite is Mr.Freeze (or one of the other three, but not very likely).

In scenario B-2 it would be bad of us to lynch anyone. In the rest of the scenarios we got at least one scum/hostile 3rd party.



Risk claims that MrFreeze is 2 face body guard, while rG claims that it is not true. So one of them is lying. Option B is not possible .
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 19:36 GMT
#3526
@JayJay : You counted palmar twice in your vote count.

I think we should lynch scum and not CatWoman. Even with 4 hits a nigth, scum needs 3 nigths to get rid of all of us. And that is assuming they KP do not drop. In the same time, we get 3 lynches and 6 potential hits , With both batman and Penguin difficult to kill for mafia.

We should win the base trade.

I will follow Palmar and Adam with the VE lynch.

##Vote VE
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 19:50 GMT
#3533
On February 17 2012 04:38 Tunkeg wrote:
Hmm Tyrran, I hate myself for sheeping, but at least I and everyone else know I am town. But you on the other hand...


And ?

VE is not my personnal #1 Lynch ( that would be evanstree), but voting for him is the best move i can do in my current situation.

I'm a suspect. I have ZERO chance of getting anyone else lynched. The only thing i can do to help town is to consolidate the ongoing lynch to avoid scum hammering someone else. that's all. And that is what I am doing here.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 16 2012 22:15 GMT
#3574
On February 17 2012 07:10 Jayjay54 wrote:

We outed 3 PRs who have to be eliminated by CW. She will kill them. Town on the other hand has plenty of KP, Palmar, Riddler, Lynch, Penguin. We have ENOUGH KP to kill scum in one cycle. So why not play it safe, remove a anti town KP and use our billion KP to blow up scum. If we win one day, one dt claim or one vig shot, it was already worth it. We also might end up mislynching which gives scum 4 KP.




So will scum. If we lynch CW, what makes you think scum wont kill 2face/Penguin ASAP ? Also, they still have their medic, so shooting at them isnt as efficient as lynching them.

Yes, misslynching means we will be heavily relying on batman and penguin shot. But If we kill CW, and Batman/Penguin kill town with their shot, we are is the same bad position. And I do not see palmar not shooting VE at nigth if we let him leave anyway.

Lets lynch VE. It is strictly better from a town point of view than lynching CW.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#3757
gj gl town
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