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The first part is just a small thing. Hes actively going against someone that I strongly think to be our Detective.
Then, I've already brought up the fact that hes actively going after RG, so I wouldn't need to bring that up more, I go after him wanting The Joker (A blue Vigilante) to come out. Him starting this should make you want to think that he is red even more. No one should want the Joker to just come out without having already killed Hugo.
And at first you say you were planning on switching over to Cyber_Cheese before I brought up my argument. Why?! What was your reason for wanting to vote Cyber_Cheese?
Then, of course my case is thrown together quickly, and I'm trying to avoid getting lynched. This doesn't change the fact that I think hes red. You posting this has made you look even worse in my eyes. Please, tell me why would Cyber want a blue Vigilante to come out? The logic behind starting that train of thought should only lead you to two places.
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So, now its Liquid`Sheth (8) Risk.nuke added,
Kurumi silently removed his vote from Cyber, because "two scummy people can't both by scummy" and Layabout is thinking of removing his vote from Cyber and putting it on me.
So, that'll be Liquid`Sheth (9) Cyber (5).
Keep in mind these last minute changers please. I'm not giving up, but I don't see what more I can do from here. I don't have time to do much more as I have to get ready for work. This is obviously a bandwagon and if I had to guess the scum out of it I'd say VE (Most obvious, especially because of his post against me), then maybe Kurumi or BM. Anyway, this might be my last post. I should have time to come back and check in one more time.
I might as well claim though, I'm vanilla. Its not much of a claim I wish I had some sort of blue roll to make me not worth killing. Either way, gain a lot of information on this and I think we'll be ok. 
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On February 08 2012 07:39 layabout wrote:
Sheth, what is the most pro-town thing that you could do right now?
Do it.
K.
I'm changing my vote off Cyber_Cheese. I'm putting it on VisceraEyes. Let me explain why its important to remove him.
His first post :
Not much going on so far, scummiest thing in the thread is Kenpachi's claim...but obviously he's mothafuckin Kenpachi so that's like whatevs.
Not too much to go on here. Taking pressure off Ken, just getting along with everyone.
Next Post :
+ Show Spoiler +On February 06 2012 15:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:31 Katina wrote:On February 06 2012 15:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On February 06 2012 15:15 Katina wrote:
I wasn't sure if he was being a noob or being serious. I don't think it really means anything. Pretty much everything is something that matters. I'm not sure it matters too much, but its definitely something to look at and think on a little bit imo. I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:41 Katina wrote:On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.
However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned? So, Bill -- Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good. They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death. Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map. Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this. .... I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process What I find peculiar is how you're able to repeat yourself while saying so little in the process. Are you getting scummy vibes off Sheth? You pickin up a lil red tinge there?
He defends me from Kat. Not much to say here either, other then hes getting along with everyone. Taking pressure off of another person for little reason as well.
Thirdly...
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:I see that Kitaman might be scum! I've made one action this game, and it was an attempt to get clarity from the mod. Somehow this makes me scum? The reason I asked was this: Show nested quote +He infiltrates Arkham City in order to target certain people. Hugo Strange tells him who to shoot each night and thus deadshot will carry out the contract and kill that person. If Hugo Strange is killed, deadshot will no longer be able to carry out his attacks. It's a little ambiguous as to how the deadshot KP works and I wanted mod confirmation that it wasn't what I read it as...which is that Strange gives him a character name and Deadshot kills that guy if he's in the game. The reason I thought it worked this way is because of the fact that not all the names mentioned are guaranteed to be in the game, so it would be a decent way to force scum to think about how they use that KP, because it could be ineffective. Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?
He calls out Kitaman for being scum for putting any pressure on himself. This post bothers me a lot. Hes suggesting that in the 3 pages of setup speculation there is someone we should be voting for, instead of himself. Yet he never brings that up again. This just feels quite wrong to me.
He then goes after Kitaman with no logic, other then he must be scum, he voted for me!
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just woke up, but you know...whatever. And you're surprised I "showed up quick" at the very start of the game? And what I was doing was NOT defending Sheth...I was pointing out Katina's hypocrisy for saying Sheth isn't saying anything. Get real Doc. If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.
He then says this!!!
On February 07 2012 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:*grumblegrumble* ANYWAY, I guess since trying to understand the setup is scummy, I'll just embrace my ignorance and live up to expectations. ##Vote: kitaman27+ Show Spoiler +My vote is about his lack of reasoning for voting for me, and attempt to start a bandwagon (Forumite also appears to be suspicious of me, so I'm taking kita's vote of me as a direct appeal to him...your mileage may vary.) Clearly all I ever do is OMGUS, so I've spoilered out my actual reasoning since it's imaginary anyway.
What is this post?! Has there ever been a worse town post? I'll embrace my ignorance and live up to bad expectations people have of me. Then he suggests hes posted his reasoning for voting for Kitaman, when clearly he has no reasoning other then that Kitaman put pressure on him. Then he says his reasoning is imaginary anyway. Yes, yes it is.
It ONLY gets worse from here folks.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:First of all ##Unvote: kitaman27Now for the good stuff. VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracylayabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either. Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something. kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today. Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick. So, there you have it. ##Vote: layabout
He switches here with no reasoning behind it. He goes from voting for Kita, and having posted his reads to "Kita is my weakest read at this point". He thinks Layabout and Katina two people who no offense, haven't posted much of any sustenance to be mafia. This is either horrible play or scum play. I'm leaning towards scum play on him. There is more..
Then this post :
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On February 07 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's all good - hopefully we lynch into my list and prove you wrong =D
On Sheth, I agree that he hasn't contributed much outside his initial bout of posts, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it scummy just yet. His posts left me with a feeling that he's eager to find scum, whether he was capable of doing so at the time or not. Tentatively I have a null read on Sheth, but if he doesn't come in here and show that he's willing to put in effort to actually do something, I'm totally okay with lynching Sheth. No question.
He wants me to come here and put forth effort into actually doing something. He then right after says that he is totally okay with lynching Sheth No question. Just completely contradictory. I think hes townie, but I'm ready to lynch! How is this not a red flag for everyone else!
I then call him out on this in the thread. He replies
On February 07 2012 09:57 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 09:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On February 07 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's all good - hopefully we lynch into my list and prove you wrong =D
On Sheth, I agree that he hasn't contributed much outside his initial bout of posts, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it scummy just yet. His posts left me with a feeling that he's eager to find scum, whether he was capable of doing so at the time or not. Tentatively I have a null read on Sheth, but if he doesn't come in here and show that he's willing to put in effort to actually do something, I'm totally okay with lynching Sheth. No question. Why do you think I'm not willing to put in effort? You also flip flop from that I'm eager to find scum and null with being ok to lynch me. I don't like this play at all. I never said you're not willing to put in effort. I said IF you're not willing to put in effort, then your lynch has my approval. While I got you here though, who do you think is scum and why? All this Batman talk is fascinating, but we DO have to lynch today ya? Who should it be?
He wants me to post my reads on others. I do that and say who I'd like to lynch. I provide the information that he requires later on. We shall see his response then.
He posts this after I've said my read on Cyber_cheese
+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2012 07:02 VisceraEyes wrote:All right, I almost made the switch to Cyber_Cheese, but then Sheth posted his case on Cyber_Cheese. I have to say - it's one of the worst cases I've seen. And that should really infuriate Sheth considering that's coming from me. But allow me to ruminate whilst I illuminate. Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:So here is my vote + reason. Cyber_Cheese He posted this : On February 07 2012 16:01 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:Let's all claim green btw, to see if it helps town.Shall we? I am not talkinng setup anymore, if you haven't realised that. I think you understand quite clearly what I meant, but are so stubborn/stupid not to reconize. Look, ppl are still talking Setup/Strat, things on which you cannot accuse anyone, because bad plans may just as well be bad townies' brainchildren. And bad townies abund, WBG you are one of them. Repeat, for the last damn time: Voting kenpachi was a Random vote/Pressure Vote-For just claiming townie D1, I cannot hope to reasonably accuse someone. So why keep my vote on Kenpachi? He's responded, some say in his trademark fashion, I have thrown my ideas around, but it seems Kenpachi's meta looks just like that. How could I miss a pg39 post of 2 lines in a Mafia L thread that had 160+ pages?Seriously, how could I? By posting like I did, I hoped to attract some attention, maybe some votes on me.But what I did not expect was no lynch candidate after 24+ hours, and now I am myself a lynch candidate. If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS. This bit shows your stupidity or that you joined my wagon in a hurry. If Kenpachi is scum, scum obv know who is scum. I'll not defend myself further.Waste of time. If, at the end of D1, they're still votes piling on me, I'll straight out claim. So basically you're apologising for not checking his filter, and you still don't actually have a reason to have voted? This is the last post in a long line of posts going after RG. RG has now claimed blue as detective and I believe him. Its just something he would do. I realize its horribly bad (RG never claim unless you're sure your going to die at night). The first thing I thought when I read this was "…..so what?" Like, it doesn't say why the post is bad, it merely states factually that "This is the last post in a long line of posts going after RG." He then gives his opinion of RG's claim, but that doesn't matter because this is a case against Cyber_Cheese. So what, Sheth? What about that post don't you like? That he doesn't believe the claim and you do? That tells nothing of his alignment. This is a waste of space in the thread. Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:lso he wanted to give up the Joker right away. On February 06 2012 16:20 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Kenpachi's claim means absolutely nothing, just like it does every game...
Sheth's gotta be scum, look at all that useless filler, and the games only just started.
My activities going to be sub par for the next 16~24 hours, sorry in advance.
Should be right after that though.
I disagree with DocH, who's to know if batman/catwoman are going to shoot accurately.
That's not a risk I want to take, when we could reduce overall KP and give ourselves more time to analyse instead.
To kick off some real discussion.
I'd like to discuss the Joker claiming ASAP.
Sure he dies overnight, but then we have batman as essentially a buffed up version of the same role from that night until the gf dies.
Catwoman's targets on the other hand, where do we balance a known two townie deaths vs potentially a lot more as the game drags on? This isn't something a townie would do. Which leads me to think either Batman or Scum. I'm definitely happy voting for him. I was going to choose VE for my vote, but after reading CC's filter I find it really bad. He also has such lovely posts as : On February 06 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
As a side note, if you don't want a topic discussed, add in a topic that will create discussion in it's place. And instead of going after the "long line of posts going after RG", the DT you claim to believe, he then rounds out his case quoting Cyber's first two in-game posts. Only reason given: "This isn't something a townie would do" …why? It's a slightly more complex setup and has guaranteed third-parties. It's true that third party discussion dominated the first part of today, but Cyber_Cheese was doing it before it was cool man. [/hipster] In short, I disagree…concisely giving his thoughts on the third party situation then adding that if you DON'T want to talk about third parties, then come up with a different topic very much IS something a townie would do. Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
If you think my stuff is fluff, check out Cyber's filter. So ##Vote Cyber_Cheese I did - it has fleshed out opinions on players and participation in town discussion. This is NOT something I see going over your filter. All and all, I feel like this case is a desperate attempt by scum trying to avoid the lynch by trying to appear contributing, but falling short. It looks thrown together. It looks scummy. Everyone vote for Liquid`Sheth. I may or may not give you an e-cookie.
I do admit that my claim against Cyber wasn't the greatest. However the fact that Viscera was willing to switch off of me, and go for Cyber_Cheese, someone he hasn't even mentioned should be another huge tell. He says that here :
All right, I almost made the switch to Cyber_Cheese, but then Sheth posted his case on Cyber_Cheese. I have to say - it's one of the worst cases I've seen. And that should really infuriate Sheth considering that's coming from me. But allow me to ruminate whilst I illuminate.
All of this is just him being a scum. He has flip flopped between many candidates for lynch. And from the reasons I have given above is a scum to me. Layabout wanted the last thing I could think to do as town and here it is. I don't want Cyber_Cheese lynched, I'm not sure hes mafia I just have a hunch. I'm much more certain that VE is and as such despite probably dying in the process I'll put my vote on him. ##Vote VisceraEyes
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I'm here still somewhat. Checking in in between games. I've tried my best as town and given you the reads I do have. As lynches go, I'm still the surest on VisceraEyes being mafia. Hopefully we can get some more to change there mind about me. I'm fighting guys, I'm not mafia. Don't lynch me.
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On February 08 2012 10:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 10:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm here still somewhat. Checking in in between games. I've tried my best as town and given you the reads I do have. As lynches go, I'm still the surest on VisceraEyes being mafia. Hopefully we can get some more to change there mind about me. I'm fighting guys, I'm not mafia. Don't lynch me. C_C or switch?
I'm not getting any votes switched on to VE, so to me it looks like tonight it will probably be either me or C_C. I'd rather switch Kurumi(go on to VE),but others won't, so I won't blame you either way. I know I'm not mafia, so we can kill CC and have a chance at Mafia. You've seen my arguments against him, and they aren't great. But I do think his claiming Joker come out is a bit crazy.
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I'm here for a second Kitaman, I have to play again soon though so whats up?
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Yea, nps Kita. I didn't realize this is allowed. Do I provide a link or ?
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Like, its Open Office, spreadsheet. It has my thoughts on most ppl, some didn't get on once I started getting a lot of pressure on me I stopped doing it.
Mafiaaaaa
Tobberoth Voting VisceraEyes, Becase of over reaction.
Layabout “Lets all vote for no good reason!” Not wanting to vote Kenpachi, Others wasting time!
VisceraEyes OMGUS
Kurumi Pointing out his reads on everyone (New or Not!)
Jackal58 Two Trolls – Noob – Cowboy (Kurumi outting them) Ok Killing Radfield if he doesn't post soon.
Palmar Being rude. Going after people for being “Stupid” Thinks like I did. Batman just killing ppl +
Bill Murray Calling the Claim weak, not me. Voting Kenpachi
Radfield Actively Lurking
JayJay54 Actively Lurking is scummy Up for Lynching Me.
CyberCheese Agreed with my plan about Hugo + Joker coming out.
Slardar Lurking a bit, yet still helping out.
Toadestern Not caught up yet. Lurkers Priority of Lynches Voting Me! CC Layabout Then Ken / Pal/ BM
DoctorHelv People are Stupid, afraid of Palmar (Respect)
Bill Murray Thought I was scum, changed mind in the same post.
Katina Thinks I'm rambling.
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I mean, I could be mafia and have made that just in case I was asked. I did talk about it, so I knew you knew I had it. And its not insanely detailed, so maybe I just kept it light because I'm mafia. However its just because I was under pressure and have been spending all of my time defending myself. Thats if nothing else all my basic memory aids for remembering everyone and maybe it'll give you some idea when I flip. =[
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Hey Kurumi,
Just for future reference. Sometimes its good to step back and re-evaluate. I used to just tunnel people at times and I think that's what you're doing here. I get this won't get you to take your vote off, I'm just saying once I flip and your like oh crap maybe I shouldn't have went for him so hard, just think back on this when you play the rest of the game.
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Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking. I'm giving my spreadsheet and everything. He has 6 votes, to my 8. If you and me both go to C_C he will die instead of me. Please, I'm not mafia. You're basing this on what others are doing. You think what others are doing is defending me, yet WBG isn't even voting C_C so he clearly doesn't care if I die. I want to have another day to prove myself at least Kurumi.
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On February 08 2012 11:49 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 11:44 Kurumi wrote:On February 08 2012 11:42 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 08 2012 11:39 Kurumi wrote:
The only way I can push Your case is to push it indirectly, thus trying to lynch the person You're defending, because I don't see how people are going to suddenly switch a lot of votes to someone while a lot are players from EU.
Kenpachi, I know You're typing my name in vote thread. lol. So if Sheth flips town you'll call me scum for "knowing" his alignment? And if he flips scum, you'll call me scum for defending him too! I see how this is ^^ too bad I'm like four steps ahead of you. What's funny is that you say you know no one is going to suddenly switch votes to me because of the number of players from EU (who will probably be sleeping) but you accuse me of reviving a discussion that apparently died while I was asleep. Town defends Town with fury, power, huge posts and screaming all over the place. Scumbuddies prefer to help each other whispering and lending hands while noone looks. right. That's definitely how you defended RG right? rofl. If you didn't know, I actually defend harder when I'm scum because when I'm scum I already know the alignments. I know for sure as scum that I can defend someone hard because I know they'll flip a certain alignment. That's actually what I do a lot as scum because it makes me look good later when the lynch flips town and I can tell everyone, "yo fuckers I was right listen to me now." i'm not 100% sure sheth will flip town but I will bet a lot of money he will just based on how many people are bandwagoning him and how absolutely no one besides me is actually defending him.
Would you throw your vote on C_C then please? There is still a chance I won't die tonight....
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On February 08 2012 11:51 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 11:51 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking. I'm giving my spreadsheet and everything. He has 6 votes, to my 8. If you and me both go to C_C he will die instead of me. Please, I'm not mafia. You're basing this on what others are doing. You think what others are doing is defending me, yet WBG isn't even voting C_C so he clearly doesn't care if I die. I want to have another day to prove myself at least Kurumi. Another day to prove Yourself? Deal.
Thank you. I do appreciate it. As my last match of MLG is tonight, I'll have tomorrow to spend a lot more time on this.
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On February 09 2012 11:26 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, this has certainly been a useless interesting night.
Sheth's complete absence absolutely solidifies my read on him, and unless some darling vig has done the job for me, I'm making it my duty to see him hang tomorrow if I survive the night. Take a look at his previous games guys, he's WAAAAAAY more active than this as town, and all the crazy shit that's gone on today would NOT have gone without comment from townSheth. He gotta HANG bro, and whoever doesn't think so is fucking SCUM and will be treated as such.
Night ends in a few hours, and because I'll probably die to some idiot town vig (thanks Palmar/Rad -.-) make sure he gets his daily dose of fiber if you please.
Others who need to taste of the delicious rope:
Katina - Still have no idea who Katina thinks is scum. She's popped in to toss in a comment or two during the shennanies, but interestingly no comment on who should hang or why.
DocH - Actively opposed my Sheth lynch. Why? Because he was scumhunting THIRD PARTY. We should be aiming for scum guys, every lynch we have needs to be aiming for SCUM. We have to kill SCUM to win. If DocH (or anyone for that matter) honestly thought C_C was 3rd party, your asses should have been on the Sheth lynch.
hiro protagonist - this guy....yup. I think this guy is scum. I'm ready to "pull the trigger" (quotes indicating that this is NOT a soft-claim of any kind) on a hiro lynch. He's my weakest read of the 4 I'm ready to lynch, though...mainly based on the LOOOOOW content.
Just got caught up on whats going on here. Sheth somehow managed to get out of the lynch yesterday which was very surprising for me. I think he's scum because of the pointless ramble in the begining that was more confusing and that's not really helping out the town. Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, Bill --
Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good.
They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death.
Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map.
Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this. More like trying to take up space and make reading take a bit longer to get through than it already is =.=. Sheth has been pretty quiet until the possibilty of his lynch started coming up. When the votes started rolling in is when he discovered a voice and started building up cases against VE and CC to divert our attention from him to them. He convinced others to switch out their vote and give him an extra day. Why not say something and prove yourself useful to town until the last few hours? Toad is looking pretty scummy to me as well at this point by starting a claim that sent the whole thread into chaos for a good few pages. That is valuable time and posts that could have been spent on helping the town instead of causing an uproar. Then later trying to play it off and get rid of the attention caused by his post. Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
stop talking about my claim, stop claiminging yourself. My claim makes sense, deal with it.
Everyone who proceeds to talk about this now might as well be a nice vig target for those of you out there.
I did not think my claim would bomb this thread so much. I thought we're maybe going to have a bunch of posts calling me bullshit and some believing me and afterwards everyone moves on.
I already said catwoman can't kill me tonight. I will explain things tomorrow, for now leave it and ask me tomorrow if you want to. This is not helping town and I do apologize for this shitstorm I created but I still think what I did was right. So everyone move along and talk about something useful or leave it as it is right now. Discussing my situation is not helping town and I can't undo it. Why try and get everyone to move on from your claim if it is what you thought was the right thing to do? If it was that important then why apologize? That doesn't really make much sense to me. Others came in trying to divert attention from your claim as well. Having your mafia buddies step in to help get the heat of you? That's my opinion so far.
I'm here, just waiting on day. Had a busy day today as well. Casted for 5 hours + finished the tour. I said give me one more day to prove myself. Its not even been one night.
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Well, just woke up.
Been working pretty much all day yesterday and sleeping twice. Sorry I haven't gotten to post much. Seems a lot has went down in the Mason Network. First off Radfields lying or I'm a miller. I can't think of a great reason why he would though. Like, if I die and flip green then town kills him, and I don't think he was under that much pressure.
I'm guessing maybe mafia has a "janitor" roll or something that allows my flip not to be shown? Or a Framer roll where they can frame me as red a turn. Either way, I know I'll flip green. We're wasting a lynch here. So the options as I see them are :
1. Radfield is mafia and you'll kill him after I flip green.
2. There is a mafia "Framer" someone who changes my appearance to DT's.
3. I'm a "Miller".
I'm not mafia. You should find it weird that neither Palmar nor Radfield have talked about these possibilities at all. They are both veterans and should know that these are options. I think mafia are sitting laughing right now because when I flip Miller you'll be confused.
I will say though that there really isn't any way for me to prove it and town will gain the most information I think from lynching me. You'll find out that I'm not actually red and can go after those who have bandwagoned me here. Second day in a row that I'm just getting nearly every vote on me. Take care of who starts these and who blindly follows along. I'll still be spending today looking for scum and trying to help out as I can.
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On February 10 2012 02:24 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 02:04 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well, just woke up.
Been working pretty much all day yesterday and sleeping twice. Sorry I haven't gotten to post much. Seems a lot has went down in the Mason Network. First off Radfields lying or I'm a miller. I can't think of a great reason why he would though. Like, if I die and flip green then town kills him, and I don't think he was under that much pressure.
I'm guessing maybe mafia has a "janitor" roll or something that allows my flip not to be shown? Or a Framer roll where they can frame me as red a turn. Either way, I know I'll flip green. We're wasting a lynch here. So the options as I see them are :
1. Radfield is mafia and you'll kill him after I flip green.
2. There is a mafia "Framer" someone who changes my appearance to DT's.
3. I'm a "Miller".
I'm not mafia. You should find it weird that neither Palmar nor Radfield have talked about these possibilities at all. They are both veterans and should know that these are options. I think mafia are sitting laughing right now because when I flip Miller you'll be confused.
I will say though that there really isn't any way for me to prove it and town will gain the most information I think from lynching me. You'll find out that I'm not actually red and can go after those who have bandwagoned me here. Second day in a row that I'm just getting nearly every vote on me. Take care of who starts these and who blindly follows along. I'll still be spending today looking for scum and trying to help out as I can. well, two millers died tonight, I don't think there is a third one which is conviniently just you. I am new at this game, but I think the framer excuse is kind of a desperation move as scum isn't it. Radfield's check choice makes sense, you were under fire yesterday pretty heavily. There is not much speaking for your story...
Well, what are the odds that the only two vanilla townies who died are insane... Makes a lot of sense that there would be more.
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On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes
Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die.
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On February 11 2012 05:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ill take that bet.
I want 5$ son.
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I'm reading everything, and like I said, I think lynching me is optimal at this point. We'll get to either kill radfield or I'm a miller. You will find out a lot from this, and before I die I'll give you all my reads on everyone. Please at least take the time to read them. I know you can do it town, keep in mind those who push for lynches, but not because they look scummy. (I feel like this is the best way to find the third party and you can then tell them apart from mafia as well).
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On February 11 2012 05:35 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 05:20 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm reading everything, and like I said, I think lynching me is optimal at this point. We'll get to either kill radfield or I'm a miller. You will find out a lot from this, and before I die I'll give you all my reads on everyone. Please at least take the time to read them. I know you can do it town, keep in mind those who push for lynches, but not because they look scummy. (I feel like this is the best way to find the third party and you can then tell them apart from mafia as well). did you see the picture layabout did? You could make a picture like that as well or make an excel sheet with 31 names, and give everyone a different color. I'm not going to link you my sheet but I can show my explanation on the right side + Show Spoiler [click me!] +Those blue things are obviously something you should leave out. They're for me to keep track of all those blue slips to figure out why someone is doing something. However telling mafia who blueslipped is not a useful talent toi have so just use green for those people like they never said a word about blues. That would be pretty useful and a little text for everyone if you want to do that as well. Not a huge essay/case but maybe one or two phrases. If someone is a null just leave them white or whatever. Also I don't think telling us your green reads is bad at this moment because we're lynching you for a reason but if you don't want to tell mafia who's your strongest green read (they might kill him just because of that the next night) just use the same color for everyone you think is green, no matter if he is "slighty leaning green" or "confirmed green" in your opinion.
Hm, I'll do the spreadsheet thing. I'm not good at making pictures....
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