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On February 08 2012 03:15 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 03:12 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:09 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 08 2012 02:53 Bill Murray wrote:
has anyone talked about the gay phone network, yet? wtf is this shit? there is a gigantic mason network im a part of that is why i'm claiming a power rolei know a confirmed town, as well wait what? so you are masoning? with who? and why does this paint you town? No, i was masoned. It doesn't paint me town whatsoever - but I ask you - why would i do this as scum? I am going to ask BC to what extent I can claim in thread, because I know a confirmed town via the network, and someone speculating about roles in relation to who would have sent said network's alignment in relation to the video game with which this came from. Considering this isn't a bastard game, the flavor of the NEIGHBOR network (it's not a mason network - we don't know everyone is town) points towards the person having sent it being town. If he's town, and I'm outting in the thread saying I have a confirmed town, how is this anti-town?
woah slow down.
a) how many people are in that network? who is? and how long has this been going on.
b) if you are masoned and claim this still doesn't make you town whatsoever. Your mason buddy might be scum (even though you say it's unlikely). Even if he is town and masons you, you still could claim to get easy towncreds.
Sorry, I don't get your allignment from claiming being masoned.
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also BM, what are you trying to achieve with the mason claim. all you do is generate pointless discussions. As long as you don't provide logs, which help us, there's like no benefit at all.
and you say yourself your mass claim was based on wrong facts.
I know a little BM right now, but this is getting dangerously nonsense-like
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On February 08 2012 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 03:21 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:15 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 03:12 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:09 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 08 2012 02:53 Bill Murray wrote:
has anyone talked about the gay phone network, yet? wtf is this shit? there is a gigantic mason network im a part of that is why i'm claiming a power rolei know a confirmed town, as well wait what? so you are masoning? with who? and why does this paint you town? No, i was masoned. It doesn't paint me town whatsoever - but I ask you - why would i do this as scum? I am going to ask BC to what extent I can claim in thread, because I know a confirmed town via the network, and someone speculating about roles in relation to who would have sent said network's alignment in relation to the video game with which this came from. Considering this isn't a bastard game, the flavor of the NEIGHBOR network (it's not a mason network - we don't know everyone is town) points towards the person having sent it being town. If he's town, and I'm outting in the thread saying I have a confirmed town, how is this anti-town? woah slow down. a) how many people are in that network? who is? and how long has this been going on. b) if you are masoned and claim this still doesn't make you town whatsoever. Your mason buddy might be scum (even though you say it's unlikely). Even if he is town and masons you, you still could claim to get easy towncreds. Sorry, I don't get your allignment from claiming being masoned. a. quit fishing b. no, unless bc is a bastard mod, the one person who initiated the neighbor network is town via flavor like i said, we can't afford for my role to die n1 due to flavor, and im not a veteran, so i need a medic on me
a. yeah, please don't help town by providing information.
b. what? I seriously tried to understand that, but I failed.
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On February 08 2012 03:29 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote:
also BM, what are you trying to achieve with the mason claim. all you do is generate pointless discussions. As long as you don't provide logs, which help us, there's like no benefit at all.
and you say yourself your mass claim was based on wrong facts.
I know a little BM right now, but this is getting dangerously nonsense-like first off, how is this nonsensical? explain second off, how is a private network of neighbors we can use to coordinate a negative thing? why should i out the chat logs? i see no point in it. pointless discussion? have you read the 20 pages on 3rd party speculation?
1. as long as you give us any information, all you get from claiming mason is a discussion about how to deal with masons. Or am I wrong here? What is the benefit?
2. I assume that there might a scum in this network? Did that occur to you? In that case, by holding information back, scum gets more input than town. How does this help?
yeah I read the discussion and that is kind of my point (I made a case on Doc for that reason!). We just finished one discussion, why transition into another?
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On February 08 2012 03:30 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 03:29 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 03:21 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:15 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 03:12 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:09 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 08 2012 02:53 Bill Murray wrote:
has anyone talked about the gay phone network, yet? wtf is this shit? there is a gigantic mason network im a part of that is why i'm claiming a power rolei know a confirmed town, as well wait what? so you are masoning? with who? and why does this paint you town? No, i was masoned. It doesn't paint me town whatsoever - but I ask you - why would i do this as scum? I am going to ask BC to what extent I can claim in thread, because I know a confirmed town via the network, and someone speculating about roles in relation to who would have sent said network's alignment in relation to the video game with which this came from. Considering this isn't a bastard game, the flavor of the NEIGHBOR network (it's not a mason network - we don't know everyone is town) points towards the person having sent it being town. If he's town, and I'm outting in the thread saying I have a confirmed town, how is this anti-town? woah slow down. a) how many people are in that network? who is? and how long has this been going on. b) if you are masoned and claim this still doesn't make you town whatsoever. Your mason buddy might be scum (even though you say it's unlikely). Even if he is town and masons you, you still could claim to get easy towncreds. Sorry, I don't get your allignment from claiming being masoned. a. quit fishing b. no, unless bc is a bastard mod, the one person who initiated the neighbor network is town via flavor like i said, we can't afford for my role to die n1 due to flavor, and im not a veteran, so i need a medic on me a. yeah, please don't help town by providing information. b. what? I seriously tried to understand that, but I failed. a. i have outted my role, as a mouth of the network, so i can be protected - how is that not 100% info i know? b. the role with which the neighbor came from is confirmed town
a. you could be a scum mouth? Or is that not possible?
b. Hmm. Ok. I don't get it completely, how can someone be confirmed in a role if he masons...And if there's an initiator who is confirmed town why doesn't he speak up and be the mouth?
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On February 08 2012 04:03 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 03:32 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 08 2012 03:29 Bill Murray wrote:On February 08 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote:
also BM, what are you trying to achieve with the mason claim. all you do is generate pointless discussions. As long as you don't provide logs, which help us, there's like no benefit at all.
and you say yourself your mass claim was based on wrong facts.
I know a little BM right now, but this is getting dangerously nonsense-like first off, how is this nonsensical? explain second off, how is a private network of neighbors we can use to coordinate a negative thing? why should i out the chat logs? i see no point in it. pointless discussion? have you read the 20 pages on 3rd party speculation? 1. as long as you give us any information, all you get from claiming mason is a discussion about how to deal with masons. Or am I wrong here? What is the benefit? 2. I assume that there might a scum in this network? Did that occur to you? In that case, by holding information back, scum gets more input than town. How does this help? yeah I read the discussion and that is kind of my point (I made a case on Doc for that reason!). We just finished one discussion, why transition into another? im not a mason ive been neighborized mason = you know alignment neighbor = you dont know alignment you all are killing me with calling it a mason.... 1) the benefit is that scum have no will to out the simple fact of its existence 2) of course there could be scum in the network, like i said, it ISNT A MASON, it's a neighborizer 3) ... your case on doctorhelvetica is pretty bad
1) if it's so good for town to get the fact of a network out there, why are you the only one claiming? And why just now?
2) I know, that you know it, so why on earth is it pro town to keep information from town which scum already probably has. It creates a information deficit.
3) yea, Palmar said so already, but no one really can say why. He's spammy, has zero content, vote switches (even without posting in the thread) and enforces third party discussions. How the hell is that a bad case? Please enlighten me.
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also, as you are claiming a power role, aren't you afraid of our precious catwoman?
"With her honed skills she is able to eliminate one player a night regardless of protections".
That doesn't look smart to me.
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On February 08 2012 04:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 04:14 Jayjay54 wrote:
also, as you are claiming a power role, aren't you afraid of our precious catwoman?
"With her honed skills she is able to eliminate one player a night regardless of protections".
That doesn't look smart to me. he's what I thought VE was last game. Or he's stupid. Noone knows
difference is that there is a third party in the game with the sole purpose to kill blue power roles regardless of protection. VE's move was stupid. BM's move is just plain out dumb.
and I still want to hear from him and palmar why my case on Doc is bad. Seriously.
I love discussions about scum candidates, they are always town favoured (unlike third party discussions). => Just saying "you are stupid" is not pro town.
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On February 08 2012 04:16 Bill Murray wrote:I havent read from, say, 22-26, so i wasnt sure noone had claimed it. i consider towncred in claiming it, so if someone else had, great. one guy has gained town cred from the neighborizer, one guy has gotten my eye more than he has in the thread, and another is confirmed town. How is outting information to the thread creating an information deficit? 1I do NOT want to handle everything there. I am letting the town know about its existence, so that they're not left derpily in the dark. Asylum vs that game flamewheel had with the ninjas, world of difference doctorhelvetica has contributed more than nearly everyone within the thread, do you not see that? would scum not advocate talking about 3rd party, then do so, in a direct contradiction? he's also being really up front. 2if you want to vote on a contradiction, why don't you vote for adam, who had reasoning, yet still chose to cast an RVS vote. That's a contradiction. 3Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 04:14 Jayjay54 wrote:
also, as you are claiming a power role, aren't you afraid of our precious catwoman?
"With her honed skills she is able to eliminate one player a night regardless of protections".
That doesn't look smart to me. i've already stated there is no way i would be outting if i was one of their targets 4my role can't afford to die n1, given flavor text. I really need to be kept alive, so I had to out, especially given that I was #1 on the neighborizer list, so if another town PR knew I was town given my case on Kenpachi, mafia already had a HUGE target on my back 5
1 It's a freaking deficit, because you just say "Hey I know this guy who is town, but I can't tell you why". You are giving us nothing except from "there are neighbors". I don't get why anybody in this network would withdraw information scum most likely already has...
2 Uhm, no. 90% about his posts are about third party. Please point out 3 posts out of his 3 pages which are contributing. Being upfront isn't a towntell, especially not for a VET.
3 I am not voting on contradiction, I am voting on overall contribution and play. To say Doc has contributed more "than nearly everyone" is just wrong.
4 So you are saying powerrole, but not suitable for catwoman. Alright. See if catwoman agrees.
5 The chances of you being alive tomorrow have not increased, but lowered. I don't know how you can claim otherwise.
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Meh. The Sheth case doesn't convince me for some reason. I don't feel confident right now to say he's scum. Then again, I am not convinced C_C is scum either. And apparently that's the 50:50 choice.
I'll definitely watch closely how people vote and how the votes on Sheth increase. Could be the scum train to lynch town (maybe to save C_C) or the scum bus to sacrifing a player with a lot of votes.
To sum it up, I am confident in my case and my vote in doc. That is why the vote stays here. As a reminder for my case. I hope people will look at it again and not dismiss just because big bad palmar said so...
layabout: you wanna hug it out? what did I do to piss you off or to convince you I am scum?
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Hey, woah you guys post a lot. Had to catch up. Here’s my daily food for thought stuff.
Lynch C_C: Meh. Wasn’t conviced he was scum, but I can somehow understand why people thought he would be...therefore I don’t know how much analyzing the votes make sense at all.
BM: First your oddly timed mason claim (which was apparently legit) without providing new information, now a medic claim out of nowhere? Putting yourself in the spotlight by calling blue and then continue to force a medic to protect you, when there are already other blues who claimed? Really? I can’t see any way this is town favoured.
You should immediately make more sense. Your claims are not helping town, they spread confusion. This feels a little like TL50 to me. I hope I am wrong.
Sheth: He started to spread a little more effort. I really liked his case against VE which made VE appear in my players to watch 2012 list. Keep it up and I may end up thinking you’re town. Then again, I can’t read you. It’s like you have a metal cap or something.
Also, you call me an active lurker? I post like the whole time I am home and not sleeping. Sorry I need to work all day and sleep some 
DocH: I didn’t like your directing blue post in general, but I liked the name stuff. I found your small defense post and still think you made one decent post in the entire game so far and other than that fluffed and discussed. I hope the discussion ceases now CC is dead.
People are starting to look at you, I hope you noticed and step up my medical friend. Make cases and contribute in a good way! Because currently, you are not
Toad: Holy hell, what a claim. I believe him, but the claim makes no sense. At least not in the way he did it. If you are invincible then don’t say so.
On February 08 2012 19:32 Toadesstern wrote:3 mayor aspects of my claim:- If Schworz' claim is right we got 2 DT's and they can't RB both which is aweomse
- I am immortal, maybe I'm going to catch some bullets
- I don't want someone else to die because catwoman thinks they're Two-Face
- Maybe mafia doesn't believe a word I say and won't RB me 24/7. At least I wouldn't believe a word I say because this sounds imba
- I don't want people to waste medic saves on me
a) if you hadn’t claim, they wouldn’t RB you. Now as soon as rG is dead, you will be.
b) no you’re not, you prevented them by saying you’re invincible.
c) Catwoman still has to find someone else. Why would she stop.
d) if you hadn’t claimed you wouldn’t be RBed
e) yeah the 17/20 chance of a wasted medic is way better now.
What the heck, this claim makes no freaking sense. I don’t get you.
There really is only a couple of possibilities:
I got balls of steal, being Twoface but in reality I'm not immune to catwoman
I got mediocre balls, being Twoface but I really am immune to catwoman right now
I am a VT / Vet who doesn't care of being shot and tries to catch some bullets because I made this whole thing up
I am Catwoman myself and don't care about this bullshit because I know I'm immortal myself unless I get lynched.
a) in this case you sacrificed yourself (blue) for another townie. Yay. Or CW just procedes.
b) still the claim makes no sense as I already explained.
c) why would you mention you are invincible then?
d) this is, sadly, an actual explanation.
VE: this post:
On February 08 2012 23:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sheth fucking dies tomorrow motherfuckers. No excuses. I'm making it my mission. Palmar, can I count on you to rally the newbz?
Is straight out dumb. It is OK to push for case, but this kind of attitude isn’t helping town at all. You haven’t said a thing about Sheth, then make a (OK) case now you are all over this guy. This feels like you didn’t get your will yesterday, I WILL NOW. Don’t like it. Watch Sheth’s posting and see if he stays scummy or if he contributes. Then make another case if you still feel that way. You can't afford blind pushing someone as you are already on some lists (including mine).
Slardar: Hardcore lurker with quick vote on CC and no real content post. You with us buddy?
Palmar’s Claim: Trolling and rolling. Not helping.
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Something I wanted to add. Since town roles have flavoured abilities, we may as well have to deal with similar stuff on scum side....
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On February 09 2012 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
stop talking about my claim, stop claiminging yourself. My claim makes sense, deal with it.
Everyone who proceeds to talk about this now might as well be a nice vig target for those of you out there.
I did not think my claim would bomb this thread so much. I thought we're maybe going to have a bunch of posts calling me bullshit and some believing me and afterwards everyone moves on.
I already said catwoman can't kill me tonight. I will explain things tomorrow, for now leave it and ask me tomorrow if you want to. This is not helping town and I do apologize for this shitstorm I created but I still think what I did was right. So everyone move along and talk about something useful or leave it as it is right now. Discussing my situation is not helping town and I can't undo it.
guess you're right, harm is done. no need to further discuss this.
Also, NO MORE CLAIMS!!!! only third parties may claim.
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On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Players to protect:
Radfield
DocH
maybe Kitaman
a) why? did you contribute? are you special?
b) hell no. why? Even if he's town, he doesn't do shit.
c) pretty random too.
where are other vets (afaik, correct me if I am wrong):
WBG
forumite
Opz
Kenpachi
This list is just pushing your own agenda. WTF?
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On February 09 2012 03:28 Kurumi wrote:
WBG is not a vet. Forumite is not a vet. Opz might, but he has been useless so far. Kenpachi is always useless.
Also:
Opz is really weak this game.
Kenpachi is suspicious this game.
Forumite is actively lurking
WBG is meh.
I am sorry for calling wrong ones. I am quite new
Rad was actively lurking as well, kita hasn't really done much either.
This list feels random as shit.
Also, might someone show we where the doc claimed his role plz?
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On February 09 2012 03:33 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:31 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:28 Kurumi wrote:
WBG is not a vet. Forumite is not a vet. Opz might, but he has been useless so far. Kenpachi is always useless.
Also:
Opz is really weak this game.
Kenpachi is suspicious this game.
Forumite is actively lurking
WBG is meh. I am sorry for calling wrong ones. I am quite new Rad was actively lurking as well, kita hasn't really done much either. This list feels random as shit. Also, might someone show we where the doc claimed his role plz? He hasn't that I'm aware of. Radfield just thinks highly enough of him to ask that he get some medic loving.
no he specificially put him under power roles and not under people to protect.
either he was wrong or there is mason stuff going on.
if he really thought he was legit enough, then this list is even more pushing his own random agenda. The doc isn't exactly good this game either.
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On February 09 2012 03:35 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Players to protect:
Radfield
DocH
maybe Kitaman
a) why? did you contribute? are you special? b) hell no. why? Even if he's town, he doesn't do shit. c) pretty random too. where are other vets (afaik, correct me if I am wrong): WBG forumite Opz Kenpachi This list is just pushing your own agenda. WTF? It's just playing the odds JJ. I have a history of dying night 1. Bugs and Chaoser could probably be on that list, but for different reasons I don't think either should have protection tonight. Those other three you listed don't need protection.
why did you put Doc under power roles? where did he claim? did you mason him?
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On February 09 2012 03:38 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:36 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:33 Jackal58 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:31 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:28 Kurumi wrote:
WBG is not a vet. Forumite is not a vet. Opz might, but he has been useless so far. Kenpachi is always useless.
Also:
Opz is really weak this game.
Kenpachi is suspicious this game.
Forumite is actively lurking
WBG is meh. I am sorry for calling wrong ones. I am quite new Rad was actively lurking as well, kita hasn't really done much either. This list feels random as shit. Also, might someone show we where the doc claimed his role plz? He hasn't that I'm aware of. Radfield just thinks highly enough of him to ask that he get some medic loving. no he specificially put him under power roles and not under people to protect. either he was wrong or there is mason stuff going on. if he really thought he was legit enough, then this list is even more pushing his own random agenda. The doc isn't exactly good this game either. No? Power Roles to Protect: Bill Murray Kurumi Jackal Toad Schworz Palmar Players to protect: Radfield DocH
that was overeager I guess. I am sorry. Something went wrong in my head.
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