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On February 12 2012 21:40 Adam4167 wrote:LinkRight here. Only happened 2 pages ago, but alas, it got spammed away.
ok so it's either both are town or both a mafia isn't it?
If he's mafia he could say something like that and people would say "well if he's not telling us the result it got to be a blue or green check", therefore defending his buddy after people like me said we should probably reconsider his case.
HOWEVER, if he really is town the check should be true and it's really two townies...
Screw, now that Clayface flipped I may present you a few posts that made me think we should reconsider schworz. Give me a second.
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Ok here's the thing about Schworz. He's not making sense at all and contradicts himself. He knows about my role even before I claimed so I figured he has to have a DT power. Here we go:
On February 09 2012 06:26 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I want to uncover why Toad is lying.
There was no other way to point out that Toad is lying except claiming.
Toad chose a role that was unlikely to be counterclaimed, in the person of Two-Face.
But I really do mind about it.
We already talked about this. This makes no sense as Two-Face. If someone else is claiming two-face, so be it. It's not like he should care at all. I did the same when Palmar claimed Joker. He obviously was trying to defend me the whole game, same with Kurumi and they still do although I think it's kind of pointless right now. Forumite pointed it out:
If he really is Two-Face he should have shut his mouth and be happy that someone else wants to take a hit or shut his mouth because someone is trying to unmask the real Two-Face.
On February 09 2012 06:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, you are CW or a VT|Vet, whos playing stupid.
Leaning towards CW atm, because you claimed at a point where some claims happened and sneaking in the ,,blues,, as a VT|Vet makes a tiny bit of sense, but not much, as there were a ton of targets for scum and CW.
That's what I got from him a lot. If he thinks I'm either CW or a VT/VET he should have shut up, as I mentioned earlier. Now this is even worse, because it's not only talking about how it's bad to claim Two-Face but also he ADMITS, there is a good chance I'm going to be a VT/Vet trying to help. If he thinks there is a good chance that that might happen, why claim?
Best-case: He outed himself as Two-Face and maybe a few people will believe that I actually am CW. I am going to shoot him, and still probably won't get lynched because again, ever CW would have hit that, not only me.
Worst-case:He outed himself as Two-Face and outed a VET so mafia no longer has to shoot me.
It's just not making sense from a Two-Face perspective.
On February 09 2012 06:30 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I m taking a stance. Toad is lying, ergo he is CW or VT|Vet.
The very same thing again. "He is thirdparty or Town, THEREFORE I HAVE TO UNCOVER TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL SEE THIS"....
On February 10 2012 01:05 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I'm not dead because catwoman didn't shoot last night.
She prolly DT'ed me thou gh.
I'm Catfood tonight barring Catwoman being a lurker/inactive.
Don't medic me tonite. Useless
Here we go. He's not dead. Why? According to him because CW dt'ed him. So if CW dt'ed him and instead of shooting and you still stick to your Two-Face claim, why are you still alive? If she dt'ed you she should have found Two-Face and should have at least shot you BY NOW. So again Schworz, why are you still alive?
On February 10 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Man, I perfectly understand why you would lynch sheth today.
I m also up for lynching sheth, mainly because he posts fluff and irrelevant stuff.
QT is full of scum. I do not fear getting lynched, anyways I know what to do Night 2.
If im getting lynched because Clayface does not want to claim so be it.
Medics get off me ASAP. Toad doesn t understand I ll be catfood tonight.
When I flip, please lynch this liar= DocH.
I understand that BM got roleblocked. I strongly trust BM at this point, I believe him to be the most town.
So, 2 kills without any prot.
Scum single-stacked Jackal, because they RB BM.
Rad claimed hit, but I don t believe he s a vet since he claims DT.
So, most likely one of our vigs hit him,else hes a Veteran.
Therefore , I m inclined to think CW didnt shoot.
Therefore she DT ed me.
Therefore I die tonight. Bye, Bye, Bye
Wait what? BM is his stronges townread? BM claimed unroleblockable medic that got roleblocked and therefore was not able to protect Jackal altough he said "NOONE PROTECT OUR BLUE JACKAL, I GOT THIS". You're telling me that guy is you're stronges townread and I am, together with DocH a bady because we're liars? What's wrong with yoou.
Again he said CW obviously DT'ed him and he's still alive.
On February 10 2012 15:54 rgTheSchworz wrote:Show nested quote + She is also incredibly good at fooling people with her Allure and access to materials to make the perfect disguise. As such she can appear to be any role in the game. She wins when two face and penguin are eliminated. Catwoman/Batman got all the role PM s in the game. They are not playing without info. Therefore Toad is 90 %CW, not town. He set up this thing with DocH, who probably is Clayface.
Toad, if you are town, please aswer this: Do you know anything about Harley Quinn?Scum aren t being very active and are probably confused themselves right now. If Sheth flips red, it would certainly explain some things. Even better if he flips Strange.
Tell me, how did you know that if you did not DT the joker, found out he's the joker and therefore know you've got to ask about harley Quinn? You have a DT power and you knew I am the joker all along.
On February 11 2012 00:31 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, you re making it harder and harder for me to play.
Why don t you please go through my filter, and believe me?
It would make both our livesand town s job easier
I think I explained my problem with beliaving a word you say in this post pretty good.
On February 11 2012 01:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town.
CW is my humble opinion.
I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town.
So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.
Back to Toad has to be CW. Asnwer me this one: Why are you not dead if I am CW?
On February 11 2012 01:20 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I know I am irrelevant, Palmar, but I have a great chance of dying tonight.
So, I have to post in case these are my last posts
surprising you're still alive given you said that every single night.
On February 11 2012 01:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Apart from Toad being Poison Ivy, and DocH claiming Clayface, I dont ,,understand,, the Doc/Toad relationship.
Seems Doc is a temporary shield for Toad or Toad s a vet himself.
Now I'm poisan ivy. He knows that I know he got a DT power and wants to pull a Palmar / Kurumi on me.
I could go on with posts like this:
On February 11 2012 01:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
JayJay, I should be dead tonight.
I have an explanation for why I am not dead already.
Toad is CW, and he thought i wasn t stupid enough to have Trueclaimed.
Either he DT ed me, and I m dead tonight, or he ll hit me next.
but they're pretty much the same ALL THE TIME.
I really don't know what to think about schworz... I really think we have to lynch him but I don't think he's the right lynch for today.
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On February 12 2012 22:28 Kurumi wrote:
Toad why did You shoot Opz?
Thought if chaoser is a mafia he's going to be protected anyways given how much I talked about him yesterday.
My 2nd and 3rd best reads were hiro + opz and the coin told me to kill opz!
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On February 12 2012 23:05 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Hoping I won t be wrong Kurumi. Damn you, you are Harley Quinn.
Please confirm.
this makes sense I'd say
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still bad town imo but I still have to figure things out :p
I take it people know your role now as well?
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On February 12 2012 23:13 Kurumi wrote:
Now to the important things:
We lynch into Cyber_Cheese voters D1 as Radfield suggested (that's good idea) or do we lynch Bill Murray?
that was part of the reason I voted opz. He voted CC very late so I thought he might be a nice target besides being scummy.
I find it hard to judge BM.
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oh when I said voted I meant "shot"
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could someone do me a favor and explain what's going on? I thought I finally figured it out but I guess I was wrong again. This shit makes no sense and I'm back to "I know nothing"
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On February 12 2012 23:34 Forumite wrote:rgTheSchworz Two-Face Checked Kurumi N1 Checked Chaoser N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot ??? N1 Shot WBG N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED Protected Layabout N2 Palmar N1 N2 - ROLEBLOCKED Toad Joker Shot Kenpachi N1 Shot opz N2 + Show Spoiler +yes I am awful, wish I had played this game because nothing makes sense to me There are lots of others, if you remember them, please add them to the list.
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screw you guys I'm watching a let's play of this game to understand what's goin on. see you whenever I'm done with that.
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On February 13 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
@ forumite what are you trying to achieve? that discussion is totally without reason. You don't know how many vigs have multiple bullets, you don't know what thirds did. You also don't know how many shots were faked.
Let's focus on lynch candidates rather than shots.
How do you guys feel about lynching batman palmar. I know, I know lynching thirds, but given that Toad is a vulnerable multishot vig right now, This actually might be good idea...
If he's batman he's not dangerous to us because he agrees with me about the joker situation and now that my protection is gone he can simply wait for mafia to kill me and doesn't need to waste a night action on me. Why should he do the dirty work when mafia can't afford to leave me alive. He never intended to shoot me I'd say. He wanted to not be RB'ed because mafia can figure out themselves they don't need to RB him if he shoots me or he wanted to make people think I'm not joker to protect me.
If he's not the batman he's a blue role imo. Either way I don't want to lynch him.
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kurumi who do you want to lynch?
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On February 13 2012 03:39 rgTheSchworz wrote:Well, thing is, normally on TL medic protection are announced, aren´t they? The fact that he said Show nested quote +i took a hit last night
my role would not allow me to survive said hit.
what i would then conclude:
i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly) shows that he did get hit. I searched the thread for similar information that you don t get the announcement that you ve been protected by a medic.Nada If Bugs was killed in one night, which is so if none of our Vigis claim, then laya´s statement must be true? Or BM and Laya are scum together and BM is Hugo. Thing about the PM s coming in late seems weird. Also why BM would protect laya? Who then protected me?
I'm pretty sure I would not get a notification either. I only asked if I get a notification if I get hit while clayface is still alive and BC told me I I would not but I figure clayface would protect me with medic protection as well leaving me without a notification.
But that's a pretty specific case.
Also I am pretty sure the notification you get when protected by a medic is not telling you that you get protected. I think it only tells you something along the lines "you've been hit but you're not dead" which pretty much only leaves medic protection as an option. But I'm not so sure right now.
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On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch? Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya.
how do you think he's huro strange?
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maybe he got hit and is pulling an annul on us. You know, annul was a mafia, I was a mafia doc, annul got shot by a dayvig , I protected him that night and he carelessly claimed a hit. He never lied but of course explaining how someone protected him instead of other people like syllo, rad or palmar was an issue.
I really don't see people protecting laya at all but maybe that's because I said CC / laya are our two best lynch options d1 and have been tunneling a bit.
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On February 13 2012 03:48 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch? Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya. how do you think he's huro strange? He claimed a medic. Convienent, isn't it?
He's not a medic all right. I thought he's a vig becaus apparently he knew all along that we've got multi-shot vigs.
Remember when I quoted that and tried to look surprised when he said something along the lines "town is bound to have somethin like 5 KP PER CYCLE"?
This is my 6th game I think and so far it's the first game ever for me with multishot vigs. So he got that information somehow and that means he knew our vigs are stronger than normal vigs.
Either because he is a vig himself or he got some other information because he's mafia or somehow knows about another vig, like clayface, but he did not know what's in my rolepm, therefore he did not know I'm a multishot vig.
The interesting part is that he actually wanted a massclaim early on and I think he was part of the people supporting to sacrifice me to get badman on our side. Obviously we can't say CC was wrong so easily because he thought I am a one-shot vig and that we're going to trade a one-shot vig against a multi-shot 3rd party who is bound to help us after I'm dead.
However if BM knew there were multishot-vigs in this game that's a completly different story. If he knew that there is no way that trading a blue multishot vig for a 3rd party multishot vig who's MAYBE behaving the way they think can be considered pro-town.
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we're not lynching people (read: evantree for example) for lurking as long as we got lurker banes alive. Yeah that's me, I'm basicly cleaning the filth in here.
I'm going to read rads case on him later on when I'm done watching this let's play but I'd much rather lynch people like BM.
Also an interesting question? Did BM claim protection? Usually both the medic and the guy being hit get a notifiation if that protection was "used".
I see lanaya claiming but I can't recall BM claiming "hey I saved someone" by heart.
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hiro might be an alternative
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so Kurumi really is Batman?
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but fine I'll trust rad seein I really suck this game. He seems town to me
##vote Evantrees
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