if you have any sweet cases / details that you haven't shared, share then sometime between now and dawn. other than that, there's nothing to do really

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 06 2012 21:53 GMT

#1061

On February 07 2012 06:51 Zephirdd wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well, for instance a discussion that would be generated regardless doesn't have much impact. We could discuss a lot about players and whatnot, but when we involve the use of a power role like that, people can't just have a wishy-washy instance over that. This could be applied even if Lanaia didn't really check the one she mentions, so not even possible framers would use the opportunity.

And I still don't get why you'd suggest what you just said instead of saying "hm, who do you guys think is the best DT check tonight? I think it's X" or "I'd like to discuss who the best DT check is, does anyone want to discuss this with me"

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 07 2012 17:34 GMT

#1079

Cwave, so you're saying you anticipate RedFF and V7 as the two town players in there, right?

Investigated by Lanaia:
Jackal
Blazinghand
CWave

Uninvestigated:
Zephirdd
V7
Hesmyrr
GGQ
redFF

Amongst those 5 there are likely 3 mafia. You're statement is "GGQ, Hesmyrr, and Zeph are the three mafia, and V7 and redFF are town". Is this accurate?

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 07 2012 17:43 GMT

#1081

See the problem here is that that's how I am leaning as well, which means that it's kind of echo-chambery up in here. The biggest thing to fear during endgame Mafia is groupthink. I feel like redFF has been overall too aggressive and too helpful (in some sense) to be a mafia player, and I think V7 was being helpful earlier on, but I'll have to reread his filter. Compared to the travesty that is Hesmyrr's filter, GGQ's posting history, etc... it kinda seems fairly clear to me. I'm completely ignoring his whole vote-request thing because I think it's just as likely he's a VT or a scum player doing a hilarious bluff, by the way.

In any case, I guess I'd like to hear from Zeph, Hes, and GGQ about redFF and V7.

Zeph, Hesmyy, GGQ: If one of you is town, you really need to put together a case on redFF or V7. We don't have any more mislynches this game, we need to get it right.

In any case, I am in agreement, and it is for that reason that I am mildly concerned. It's possible we totally have this locked up, but we must have constant vigilance.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 07 2012 18:05 GMT

#1083

Hesmyrr, if you are town, it is your OBLIGATION to make a real defense right now, which means making a good case on redFF and/or V7, right now. Currently you look scummy as hell.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 07 2012 18:31 GMT

#1084

Or you could be a worthless guy. Alright.

##Vote: That punk Hesmyrr

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 07 2012 18:59 GMT

#1086

On February 08 2012 03:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
##Vote: Hesmyrr

any explanation for this?

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 07 2012 19:56 GMT

#1091

That's fine, it'll just make him easier to lynch.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 08 2012 05:32 GMT

#1100

Good pun.

I consider GGQ to be much scummier than all the other potential scum except Hesmyrr, and barring some whack shit happening, will be pushing for his lynch tomorrow.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 08 2012 18:25 GMT

#1108

I'm pretty sure Hesmyrr self-voted to try to slow down town discussion.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 08 2012 20:39 GMT

#1110

sup GGQ

On February 09 2012 05:18 GGQ wrote:
##vote Hesmyrr

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 08 2012 21:38 GMT

#1114

I see no reason not to lynch GGQ tomorrow.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 08 2012 22:59 GMT

#1116

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 09 2012 05:15 GMT

#1149

I'm like 99% certain that Jackal, Cwave, or I will wake up dead, since we're the confirmed townies. The Mafia would have to be colossally stupid to kill V7.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 09 2012 05:44 GMT

#1152

GGQ is absolutely incontrovertibly scum. I FEEL like Zeph is the other scum player, though there's some possibility of an 8 mile long GGQ bus by V7 or some mad trickery by you. That being said, I think we should lynch GGQ first, then Zeph, barring some amazing case being made.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 09 2012 16:00 GMT

#1159

The fact that redFF was temped in the middle of this game has nothing to do with the validity of his arguments or his possible innocence or guilt. He's wrong and GGQ is scum, but not because he was temp banned-- he just happens to be wrong.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 09 2012 16:11 GMT

#1161

Let me take a look at zeph's filter again. I'm pretty sure GGQ is who we should lynnch though.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

February 09 2012 16:19 GMT

#1162

Okay, after a cursory examination, Zeph strikes me as moronical and unhelpful, especially considering Hesmyrr's so-called "scumslip" that there are 5 scum, and it's definitely weird how aggressively he defends Lanaia's claim from skeptics who... actually aren't skeptical. This indicates to me that he's trying to build up town cred and post count without legitimate contributions. The vast majority of his posts are one or two liners, so the actual length of his filter is somewhat desceptive-- he hasn't been contributing a large amount.

Zeph is probably scum.

That being said, I find GGQ to be scummier than Zeph. In addition to posting unhelpful and short posts, he's basically been straight-up plain-facedly lurking all game long. Although Zeph made some shitty cases and shitty arguments, GGQ hasn't made a case on anyone all game, pushed any lynches or done anything helpful. On top of that, he voted for Hesmyrr without announcing it in the thread or even posting at all, an action whose stupidity is magnificent.

If GGQ isn't scum I will literally eat my hat and make a youtube video of it and try to go viral.