EPTOn February 14 2012 13:07 redFF wrote:
posting in the thread
posting in the thread
Warned you privately, warning you publicly.
You're angry right now, and I'm not going to have you shit up this thread. Do not post in this thread again for 48 hours.
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Warned you privately, warning you publicly. You're angry right now, and I'm not going to have you shit up this thread. Do not post in this thread again for 48 hours. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 14 2012 13:07 redFF wrote: posting in the thread | ||
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redFF
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
/slap self for thinking Radfield was 100% scum. /slap self more for not lynching GGQ sooner. I can't believe we let that guy cruise and ultralurk for so long  | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
But meh, I don't really want to say much because redFF is calling everyone an idiot, both before and after the game ends. If that's the only way he knows how to get a point across then I'm making it a policy to never play with him again. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 14 2012 17:15 Cwave wrote: Thanks for hosting! /slap self for thinking Radfield was 100% scum. /slap self more for not lynching GGQ sooner. I can't believe we let that guy cruise and ultralurk for so long These were the two largest town mistakes. I really can't believe either happened tbh. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
All in all, I think it was a pretty fun game. I'm going to review this setup in the future though to keep any endgames such as this from happening. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On February 14 2012 09:21 redFF wrote: cock, gg whichever one of you it is bg rest of town fuck you all i lead 4 straight scum lynches but you fucked us up too much early on I have to react to this cause you keep thinking you played like a boss. you did spend most of the time being overly agressive and abusive :\ Lanaia revealed us and it was gg at that point so don't flatter yourself too much about being the only good player. You even got temp-banned midgame. Day one: Your claim: scumteam of Blazing, cwave and bum called it. Radfield (6): Meapak_Ziphh, Cwave, Jackal58, Bumatlarge, Mr. Wiggles, Blazinghand Navillus (1): RedFF Bumatlarge (5): Radfield, Lanaia, Navillus, GGQ, Hesmyrr Lanaia (2): Zephridd, Vaderseven Voted on a town by you Day two Final Vote count! Cwave (2): Bumatlarge, GGQ Bumatlarge (7): Lanaia, Navillus, RedFF, Zephirdd, Hesmyrr, Refallen, Scamp GGQ (2): Vaderseven, Cwave Refallen (2): Jackal58, Blazinghand Hej look, another town vote by you. Day 3 Refallen (5): Blazinghand, Lanaia, Zephirdd, Hesmyrr, Scamp Scamp (1): GGQ Jackal58 (3): RedFF, Navillus, Refallen RedFF (1): Jackal58 GGQ (2): vaderseven, Cwave Hej.... another town vote by you and even a blue this time. Note that i voted GGQ two days in a row but due to overplaying my hand day1, noone is listening anymore and instead everyone just follows trains on town lynches. Fucking 3 scum in on the Refallen lynch. Also a nice quote by you going into day4 GGQ is not happening today. At this point, we chain lynch the obvious scum due to LANAIA REVEALING TOWNIES and i agree with you that the game was over with the 5/5 situation. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
I mean, I understand it being frustrating to play in a game where you don't think you have a chance at winning, or very little chance, but just try to make the best of it. Or, if you need to, just ask the host to replace you. Then criticize the setup in a constructive manner. | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
On February 14 2012 17:15 Cwave wrote: /slap self more for not lynching GGQ sooner. I can't believe we let that guy cruise and ultralurk for so long An understandable mistake if you read L. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
It doesnt matter though there isnt a ladder or ranking and I had fun. gg | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
I mean, I understand it being frustrating to play in a game where you don't think you have a chance at winning, or very little chance, but just try to make the best of it. Or, if you need to, just ask the host to replace you. Then criticize the setup in a constructive manner. It's more of "I gave my best for this game, investing hours into it, because I assumed this game was winnable. However, at the end of the game I learned it was impossible for the town faction to win unless mafia turned out to be massively incompetent at understanding the rules (which happened)". RedFF is definitely behaving poorly, but failure to understand the problem is also quite problematic for the future. Another objection of RedFF seem to be that vote race on 1v1 is hardly different than vote race on 5v5. By the time Jackal was dead (3v3 at the time I believe), vote rushing have become legit strategy. If any of these three realized this and initiated the vote rush, the game still would have been determined by who votes faster - which is the reason why the host decided to intervene on the last day! Once again, none of this happened but I believe that he thinks it is fault of the win condition that allowed even the possibility of such vote race to occur. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 14 2012 23:35 Palmar wrote: Just wanna pop in and say I agree with iGrok's method of running the game. As long as both factions still have a chance to win there is no need to call the game unless the rules explicitly state so. I mean, I understand it being frustrating to play in a game where you don't think you have a chance at winning, or very little chance, but just try to make the best of it. Or, if you need to, just ask the host to replace you. Then criticize the setup in a constructive manner. On a seperate note, I agree with this. A careful read of the rules can clearly show how and why eithee side could have won up till the very last second. This game is a good case study in that particular set of rules concerning vote count and lynching but that is a 100% different matter. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On February 14 2012 23:47 Hesmyrr wrote: It's more of "I gave my best for this game, investing hours into it, because I assumed this game was winnable. However, at the end of the game I learned it was impossible for the town faction to win unless mafia turned out to be massively incompetent at understanding the rules (which happened)". RedFF is definitely behaving poorly, but failure to understand the problem is also quite problematic for the future. Of course, but this happens in mafia. It's perfectly fine to criticize the setup. I agree that the setup needs to be looked at to prevent a situation like this from happening again. We're really discussing three different things. 1) Does the setup need to be looked at? My opinion is yes. It needs to be somehow tweaked to prevent this situation. 2) Given the circumstances did iGrok handle it correctly? My opinion is yes. I think that the calls he made were correct. The situation was kinda shitty, but he made the best of it. 3) Is it okay to be mad about it? My opinion is yes. But it's not okay to throw abuse around or ask to never allow iGrok to host again. If you don't agree with something, you criticize it, and perhaps even offer a solution. Don't just throw a tantrum. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
As a mod, I will never lie to my players. But simply by refusing to comment, I made several of you distrust it enough that until Lanaia had several checks, she didn't claim (though her blue tells were painfully obvious haha!) | ||
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