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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:58 redFF wrote: can we get some people who aren't pants on head retarded to come agree with me I think it should have been reasonably clear with some analysis that V7's claim had holes in it (navillius and n2 no-check, as well as the fact that he had to respost it, just off hand), and he was scum, not you. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
![[image loading]](http://celebslists.com/images/benny-hill-01.jpg) just a note everyone in this game except rad and myself played terribly - Words from the wise man. Post-game notes This was a fun set-up to play, though I think most of us had collective duh moment at some point of the game. It's not often I rolls scum on this game so I wanted to give my very best, but it was not to be as I would soon commit multitude of lethal mistakes.  More on that later.On day 1 I did think bumatlarge could be scum-telling, but I also wanted to keep my pro-town facade up. So I prodded bumatlarge but left myself an out. If you look over the post again, you'd see I prepared myself to switch later on. + Show Spoiler + Also, ##Vote bumatlarge his first post is just bad like many pointed out. Surprised no one decided to lean over him for it -_- allows me to mask it as pressure vote, making it less unnatural when I change my target after someone drops off something I could use. Rest is easy, people bandwagoned Radfield out of nowhere and I began supporting bumatlarge when I was sure Radfield was going to die. Blazinghand wasn't going to change his mind with the way he was going. I'll explain my broadcast plan for this game. The threat was that Inception Agent could potentially see them meaning straight-up claiming would be difficult. However, looking at the role-list it was also obvious this role would not be able to see the broadcast all the time. Thus, I decided to divide my messages into two parts, and because it's encrypted it would be impossible to determine the content unless the receiver had both: y8ayxjnott ; k= P2av30F ; CipherNaBl [D1-N1-D2] If some did not figure out my message, I hoped 'cipher' on D2 message would be enough to lead people into http://infoencrypt.com If you decrypt y8ayxjnottk= using P2av30F as a key, you get "bird" which refers to picture on my profile. You may notice on the third message that there is NaBl. That meant to communicate that I was hitting Navillus and Blazinghand. This was my biggest mistake which cost our team the game. Sincere apologizes for that, I feel terrible about it T_T The thing was... let me skip day 2 because I just pushed bumatlarge wagon. Only thing I regretted was On February 03 2012 00:32 Hesmyrr wrote: You know what, I'll move my vote to Refallen right now. We cannot afford splitting the vote in this situation. ##Vote Refallen I should have just manned up and only gave justification when somebody pushed me on it, and RedFF picked up on this immediately. He would thereafter became major pain in the ass, but I knew hitting him was terrible idea since there was highly likely to be BP role in the game and "vote me!" just seemed like obvious gambit to draw mafia NK. Okay, back to the Lanaia mistake. Navillus just decided to go afk and I completely seized up on it as gambit by Intelligence Agent to buy precious investigation time. This impression was reinforced when he indeed came out of nowhere few times during the day despite his apparent warning. So at Night 3 I re-wrote that Navillus had to die.  This was a massive mistake by me and proves that tunnel-vision can be enemy of not only the town, but mafia. I actually realized something was wrong when Lanaia began dripping the cop tells all over the place, and I probably would have changed my NK if I could have communicated with my scum team. However, that was clearly impossible and I did not want to switch my kill when I already announced I was going to kill Navillus; I somehow persuaded myself that cop wouldn't act so obvious -_- My weakness to WIFOM has been the vain of me since the days of Micro-MAFIA (The First). Don't know what I could say next, Lanaia claimed and I made a scum-tell that brought the entire suspicion upon me. I could not deviate from Scamp lynch because that had been my stance since the beginning. I might have fought for it harder tomorrow, but when Zeph, Hesmyy, GGQ: If one of you is town, you really need to put together a case on redFF or V7. We don't have any more mislynches this game, we need to get it right. Go away Blazinghand, I hate you. I decided I better sink and not give town anything else to work with. I might have spammed when somebody mentioned Godfather, in order to make some suspect I am interrupting the discussion in order to hide the presence of forementioned role, but none of that happened and I died. Really sad we missed the opportunity to win on the last day. Zephirdd PM'd me expressing his frustrations and subsequent communications (I tried my best to skirt around relevant info) express my view pretty well: + Show Spoiler + there is only one thing he can possibly do 1. kill cwave 2. race against red to vote first Original Message From Hesmyrr: Oh, so that's why. Still debatable decision, but hey redFF speaks the truth >.> He was not the only one [REDACTED]. (Post edit: He was not the only one "who stuck to single plan unwisely") If it was me I would have just made a ruckus and forced the matter while CWave was afk but I guess that was bit of a risk. Hope v7 is smart enough to know what to do following night & day. Hide nested quote - Original Message From Zephirdd: I think I made a huge mistake, asking v7 to call me scum. If he had call'd me town, we'd win today. sorry about that anyway v7 wins in two days After the lynch: + Show Spoiler + I told him to call me scum; the race didn't happen because of me. Also, I'm pretty sure iGrok will deal with the 1v1 situation without it being a vote race. At least he told me he had discussed that with greymist. perhaps it's a draw, or just standard scum win. tbqh in a 2v1 scenario, red will think between cwave/v7 and cwave will think between red/v7 especially if v7 can create the scenario for that, and I'm pretty sure he can. in fact, given my latest interactions with red, it's quite possible that cwave will be confused as much as red. The question was "Why say that?" And the answer is: WIFOM generator. Original Message From Hesmyrr: Hide nested quote - I'll surely want to apologize to my scum team for last night's actions, because we could've won today. I'm sorry! Why say that? If vaderseven is unable to access his computer at deadline, he has no choice but to submit no kill and try to risk three-man lylo. By all means it'll be difficult but better than a vote race he can't win. He can definitely argue his way through WIFOM. That is what I suspected v7 was aiming for, since if he intended to vote race he could have done so today where victory was guaranteed instead of tomorrow. I screwed up the entire scum game, because I was the one who had tunnel-vision on Navillus and managed to miss completely obvious Lanaia, but I didn't apologize immediately because you do not want to give information to the town until the game is over =/ Still it was interesting game, redFF did the best out of all the town (maybe Radfield would have taken this spot but you know what happened :p), and I think I was mafia LVP with the Navillus tunnel-vision. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
I abused that because that attitude was already in play from red and I just let that flow. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:01 Blazinghand wrote: I think it should have been reasonably clear with some analysis that V7's claim had holes in it (navillius and n2 no-check, as well as the fact that he had to respost it, just off hand), and he was scum, not you. but it was zeph, v7 myself and cwave how can town win from that | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
I saw the day post and voted for red before I had even a chance to read it. I wanted as good a chance as possible to not lose. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:04 redFF wrote: but it was zeph, v7 myself and cwave how can town win from that you lynch zeph, V7 holds his fire to avoid a quick-draw competition, then it's LYLO with 2 towns 1 scum. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 14 2012 09:21 redFF wrote: cock, gg whichever one of you it is bg rest of town fuck you all i lead 4 straight scum lynches but you fucked us up too much early on You probably shouldn't have spent half the game calling me scum. On February 13 2012 09:51 GreYMisT wrote: Regardless of which side wins or loses in the coming days, you now win the game jackal. Congratulations Plus I don't care. Mod win ftmfw!!!!!! | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
Also, I'm sorry for the poopey mouth remark. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:07 Jackal58 wrote: You probably shouldn't have spent half the game calling me scum. Plus I don't care. Mod win ftmfw!!!!!! meh i thought you were scummy, you had an inno check though and it's not like i could have pushed another lynch through the retardedness of the refallen and rad lynches. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:08 Blazinghand wrote: ;_; hey man a lot of things went wrong for town but overall I think you and I managed to pull things together a bit as we pushed towards the end. I think Lanaia soft-claimed too early, and when she did claim Jackal shouldn't have tried to confirm her claim by throwing away an extra town vote, etc, but this was an exciting and exhilarating game. Would play again. Also, I'm sorry for the poopey mouth remark. we had all 5 scum practically confirmed, we didn't pull anything together | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:09 redFF wrote: we had all 5 scum practically confirmed, we didn't pull anything together ;_; we got a draw... and we almost got a win! | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:09 Blazinghand wrote: ;_; we got a draw... and we almost got a win! no we didn't almost get a win | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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