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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 01 2012 23:27 GMT
#721
Sorry, that was a misrep. Should say "pushing MZ all day 1 then not mentioning scamp at all, ever."
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#722
On February 02 2012 08:12 redFF wrote:
Spends all of day 1 pushing Radfield on his plan which wasn't scummy. It was an argument about gameplay. Radfield's position regarding his plan was not indicative of alignment but dumb people were sheeping on to the wagon and Jackal jumped at the opportunity to lynch town rad day 1.
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 09:51 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:55 bumatlarge wrote:
And on that note, it's no where near certain that cwave slipped, he just might have done his homework.

(from last game)
CELL LEADER:
Your entire life has been devoted to running your tiny cell of agents. The time has come to put them into action. You know the names of all other Agents. You always returns "Insufficient Information for Analysis" to investigations. Each night, you will recieve a list of agents and their votes. In the event of a TIE in voting, or if ALL nominations are agents, you may cast tiebreaking vote. In the event of death, flips Cell Leader and a new Cell Leader is chosen by RNG between remaining Agents. You may send a message consisting of 5 words or 20 characters to any agent at dawn and dusk of each day. Submit it like a normal action. The message can't contain the name of any player. The message is PM'd to both myself and chaoser. We will send it to the player you specify. Cute attempts to get around the "No Names" rule or the word/char limit will result in the message being "lost". Feel free to crumb, just don't put the name (or any form of the name) in there. If all agents are dead, you may choose each kill.


iGrok didn't put this in the OP so it is very possible this role isn't in the game, or at least it functions very differently.

It appears to not be in play. The OP states they each send a message and they each receive all broadcasts. It still appears to me that Radfield was breadcrumbing info in his post regarding More scum Less scum. I can think of no other reason to state that the way he did.

##VOTE: Radfield.

Really dude?
This pretty much sums it up. That post is vague as fuck and clearly proves my point.
There was no case.
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On January 27 2012 23:16 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 27 2012 23:04 Radfield wrote:
Yeah, I think Cwave is a bad lynch right now. I also think Navillus is a poor lynch, his posting doesn't strike me as scummy.

Wigles Wrote: Yes, because mafia can't use abbreviated language unless someone posts a public key, which you did. If you had just posted with the same letters or numbers, then it's no longer a key that can be used to shorten scum communications. Now they just went from only having a binary designation, to having gradations to communicate their reads to their team, which isn't exactly useful for the town.


You're right, and I kinda wish I hadn't posted that. However I doubt it will be particularly useful for mafia. The only reason I posted it in the first place was to try and illustrate my point, which several people thought(and still think!) was just about semantics.

On January 27 2012 09:51 Jackal58 wrote:
It appears to not be in play. The OP states they each send a message and they each receive all broadcasts. It still appears to me that Radfield was breadcrumbing info in his post regarding More scum Less scum. I can think of no other reason to state that the way he did.

##VOTE: Radfield.


Can you please point out what you're talking about? I'm worried that you're still talking about this paragraph:


We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'.


Do you honestly not understand the point I was trying to make? And where is the so called breadcrumb in this post? And to what effect?

Are you for real? Do you not understand how this game works? Of course you understand how this game works. It is day 1. Scum are clueless until their first messages are sent. I understand exactly what you were saying. But the way you say it is like a fucking beacon. Why did you feel compelled to create new terminology for "town". It makes no fucking sense unless you want to put out a post that is absolutely incapable of being missed by the other agents. You're scum.


And just so there is no misunderstanding I understand exactly what your "plan" (It's not really a plan it's common sense) is doing. No I have no issue with the premise you put forth regarding calling out our town reads. It's the invented terminology you created to do it. It's bullshit. There was no reason for it except to give you an unambiguous means to message your fellow sleeper agents. And trust me. I will not be calling you "not scum" anytime soon. You need to die today.
You're saying Rad came up with his plan to send a message to the other scum? Your case was purely hypothetical with no proof.
Rad's plan could be a way to send a secret code to the other scum!
So could anything anyone ever posts in the game. The case that he created it in order to send other messages to the scum was fucking ridiculous. But hey, rad lynch day 1 is rad lynch day 1 yo.
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On January 30 2012 03:58 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2012 03:50 redFF wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Was the scum team allowed to send out their first messages with the first day post?

Why'd you ask this question?


Jackal is probably scum btdubz

Because that changes whether or not they have as yet been able to identify each other. In the first Sleeper cell it required a minimum of 3 days for scum to know who each other were. This set up is much different.

Why didn't you ask this question before voting radfield to help confirm whether your suspicions of him breadcrumbing a code were correct? Oh right because you already know the answer and you asked a dumb question for towncred lolololol.

This was a response to a question regarding whether scum have power roles
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On February 02 2012 06:52 Jackal58 wrote:
No idea. Didn't have any in the first Sleeper Cell.

so then why did you vote refallen here?
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On January 29 2012 23:17 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 29 2012 22:15 Refallen wrote:
I voted him because he obviously had some sort of role related reason why he was asking people to vote. And since scum has no special powers, I figured he was a blue and thus I voted him...?

How is that scummy? The fuck?

You know this how????
And I never called nor implied you were scum. I simply asked why.
You have my vote.

##VOTE: Refallen
Given what you just said it's a reasonable assumption to make.
Once again, another shitty reason for a shitty vote.

Refallen is today's "easy lynch" that anyone can sheep onto without looking suspicious in the slightest, and when he flips town(which he probably will) it will be easy to wave away with an "he was scummy and lurking anyway so w/e". Nope.

He didn't vote Bum because he thought Bum was scum (I know I sure did)


Now for Jackal on red,

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On January 31 2012 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2012 09:28 redFF wrote:
Jackal tomorrow.

You'd be better off shooting me tonight scum.

Here is Jackal's first post indicating suspicion of me

here's the first time I call jackal scum (I also mentioned him during night 1)

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 03:50 redFF wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Was the scum team allowed to send out their first messages with the first day post?

Why'd you ask this question?


Jackal is probably scum btdubz

Him on me is pure reasonless OMGUS because he knows I caught him.

His other 2 suspects are Refallen and Lanaia, one of them is a VI mislynch waiting to happen led by Blazingscum who wanted to lynch MZ so bad but has barely mentioned scamp. The other is Lanaia, another easy ml who hasn't done much. He's playing safe and pushing shitty wagons because he know's half of you idiots won't call him out on it.

--

Blazinghand
You never answered this post
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On January 30 2012 08:33 redFF wrote:
On January 30 2012 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh no wait hold on scratch that redFF is scum making stuff up to save his scumbuddy refallen since I caught them communicating in thread, and everything he said *IS* deceptive and does not accurately characterize my actions this game. How about that

look brah, you said you didn't vote MZ yesterday because it wouldn't have affected anything because it would have been a 1 person wagon.

Now you're voting refallen, a 1 person wagon.



EVERYONE ON JACKAL NOW GOGOGO

GOGO GADGET VOTES!!!!!!!!
Refallen is dead. He just doesn't know it yet.
Life can only kill you once.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
February 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#723
Jackal, be useful and respound to that post instead of posting stupidness.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 02 2012 00:50 GMT
#724
On February 02 2012 09:25 vaderseven wrote:
Jackal, be useful and respound to that post instead of posting stupidness.

Responding to red is posting stupidness.

Life can only kill you once.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 02 2012 00:53 GMT
#725
On February 02 2012 09:25 vaderseven wrote:
Jackal, be useful and respound to that post instead of posting stupidness.

no hes scum ololol
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 02 2012 01:05 GMT
#726
Hey guys sorry I've been away so long, super busy IRL.

So in general I mostly agree with Red's assessment of things and think that despite bum flipping town my scumlist largely remains the same. Personally I would like a blazinghand lynch a lot but we're already WAY too spread out with our votes, we need to consolidate on 2 or 3 major candidates. I am going to

##Vote: Jackal

As he would be my next choice out of people that may actually get lynched today, if his lynch doesn't pick up more people rather soon my next choice would be GGQ. I really don't like the wagon on refallen, he seems much more noobtown than scum to me.

The votes on Hesmyrr, Red, and Scamp need to go away, none of them are getting lynched today and the people that made those votes need to give their opinions on the actual candidates.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:20 GMT
#727
On February 02 2012 10:05 Navillus wrote:
The votes on Hesmyrr, Red, and Scamp need to go away, none of them are getting lynched today and the people that made those votes need to give their opinions on the actual candidates.


So you don't think Refallen is scum? Because if your reasoning is "don't vote Refallen because he won't get lynched today" you're making a self-fulfilling prophecy.

How about you guys instead give your opinion on actual scum, like Refallen?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 02 2012 01:22 GMT
#728
fuck off
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:25 GMT
#729
redFF I'm glad you've refined your critique of my D1 play from "blatant lies" to "irrelevant facts". Still dishonest, just in a more honest way.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 02 2012 01:28 GMT
#730
On February 02 2012 10:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 10:05 Navillus wrote:
The votes on Hesmyrr, Red, and Scamp need to go away, none of them are getting lynched today and the people that made those votes need to give their opinions on the actual candidates.


So you don't think Refallen is scum? Because if your reasoning is "don't vote Refallen because he won't get lynched today" you're making a self-fulfilling prophecy.

How about you guys instead give your opinion on actual scum, like Refallen?


Reading comprehension, you need it.

My reasoning was don't vote, and I quote, "Hesmyrr, Red, and Scamp" because they will not get lynched. Refallen I said not to vote, because he seems much more noobtown than scummy.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:35 GMT
#731
Oh LOL I'M A MORON. I saw Red and I read it as "Ref" but obviously it's RedFF. ;_;
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#732
Alright, well, I guess it's time to go dig through some filters. I'll get started with Hesmyrr, and post my thoughts on each of these guys.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 02 2012 01:44 GMT
#733
On February 02 2012 08:27 redFF wrote:
Sorry, that was a misrep. Should say "pushing MZ all day 1 then not mentioning scamp at all, ever."


do you deny this?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:46 GMT
#734
On February 02 2012 10:44 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 08:27 redFF wrote:
Sorry, that was a misrep. Should say "pushing MZ all day 1 then not mentioning scamp at all, ever."


do you deny this?


Are you an idiot? I pushed MZ because he was lurking. But he wasn't lurking, he was banned from TL. Therefore, Scamp replaced him. I haven't seriously examined Scamp since then because Refallen is obvious scum and I'm trying to get him lynched.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:47 GMT
#735
On February 02 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 10:44 redFF wrote:
On February 02 2012 08:27 redFF wrote:
Sorry, that was a misrep. Should say "pushing MZ all day 1 then not mentioning scamp at all, ever."


do you deny this?


Are you an idiot? I pushed MZ because he was lurking. But he wasn't lurking, he was banned from TL. Therefore, Scamp replaced him. I haven't seriously examined Scamp since then because Refallen is obvious scum and I'm trying to get him lynched.


It seems very odd to me that every attack redFF makes on me is blatantly misleading and untrue. Just kidding, it's not odd at all because redFF is scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 02 2012 01:47 GMT
#736
On February 02 2012 10:05 Navillus wrote:
Hey guys sorry I've been away so long, super busy IRL.

So in general I mostly agree with Red's assessment of things and think that despite bum flipping town my scumlist largely remains the same. Personally I would like a blazinghand lynch a lot but we're already WAY too spread out with our votes, we need to consolidate on 2 or 3 major candidates. I am going to

##Vote: Jackal

As he would be my next choice out of people that may actually get lynched today, if his lynch doesn't pick up more people rather soon my next choice would be GGQ. I really don't like the wagon on refallen, he seems much more noobtown than scum to me.

The votes on Hesmyrr, Red, and Scamp need to go away, none of them are getting lynched today and the people that made those votes need to give their opinions on the actual candidates.

Refallen is no noob.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 02 2012 01:48 GMT
#737
On February 02 2012 10:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 02 2012 10:44 redFF wrote:
On February 02 2012 08:27 redFF wrote:
Sorry, that was a misrep. Should say "pushing MZ all day 1 then not mentioning scamp at all, ever."


do you deny this?


Are you an idiot? I pushed MZ because he was lurking. But he wasn't lurking, he was banned from TL. Therefore, Scamp replaced him. I haven't seriously examined Scamp since then because Refallen is obvious scum and I'm trying to get him lynched.


It seems very odd to me that every attack redFF makes on me is blatantly misleading and untrue. Just kidding, it's not odd at all because redFF is scum.

If Refallen flips town I'm killing you next.
Life can only kill you once.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:50 GMT
#738
He won't flip town. Neither will you.

Also, redFF is actually correct that Refallen is not a noob.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 02 2012 01:50 GMT
#739
On February 02 2012 10:50 Blazinghand wrote:
He won't flip town. Neither will you.

Also, redFF is actually correct that Refallen is not a noob.



EBWOP: oh, no, wait, I should have known that it wasn't redFF saying it because it was a correct statement. I revise this to:

Jack is correct, Refallen is not a noob.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 02 2012 02:14 GMT
#740
On February 02 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 10:44 redFF wrote:
On February 02 2012 08:27 redFF wrote:
Sorry, that was a misrep. Should say "pushing MZ all day 1 then not mentioning scamp at all, ever."


do you deny this?


Are you an idiot? I pushed MZ because he was lurking. But he wasn't lurking, he was banned from TL. Therefore, Scamp replaced him. I haven't seriously examined Scamp since then because Refallen is obvious scum and I'm trying to get him lynched.

That's a lie. MZ was around and not banned for the entirety of day 1. He only got banned after night started.

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