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On January 28 2012 04:17 bumatlarge wrote: Lanaia is always wishy washy. Every game regardless of alignment. Nice try to everyone stuffing their vote on her, but she should not be the lynch. I'd definitely lynch radfield over her. I don't have a proper read on navillus or cwave, but I have no problem lynching them. And how is this not a direct contradiction of what you said not to do. You are essentially calling him town here. One strike too many. ##Vote: Radfield Now first remember that scum in this game are playing in the dark like us, so to identify scum they need to go on the same reads that we have. With that in mind, we had just decided that it lurking day1 is very scummy this game and pointed our lurker-lynch at Lanaia, no sooner had we done that than bum decided to jump to her aid. Now the fact is that he literally cannot know any more about her than we do at this point, he's also not stupid, this means that he should have the same conclusion that everyone else has come to, lurkers are scummy, Lanaia was lurking. He then chose to defend him/her, (lanaia = m/f?) this only makes sense if he himself is scum and realized that one of his own was likely about to get lynched, he even goes so far as to be ok with lynching ANY of the other people brought up for lynches and pushes for a rad lynch while rad is one of my town reads. Agreeing to anyone else just stinks of him trying to avoid the Lanaia lynch, which is just weird, Lanaia had been lurking there's no way he could've even had a strong town read for him/her. Bum is scum QED + Show Spoiler + and that rhymed - vote for him | ||
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Bum jumps in without possibly knowing more than the people that just decided Lanaia looks like a good lynch and says he's OK with any of the other 3 candidates, that alone is suspicious, I'd be more fine if he was saying "Lanaia's meta blahblahblah and X is definitely a better lynch" but instead he says "NOT Lanaia anyone else!" even saying he's willing to lynch two people that by his own admission he "doesn't have a proper read on". Now I honestly don't see what would possess a town player to do this. On another note I'm note entirely sure where the Radfield wagon is coming from and it looks to me like people have sort of been straggling on to it without super clear reasons, I'm gonna go over the thread but I would love if one of the people voting for him could try to concisely explain why. As a last note no matter who we lynch today tomorrow we need to remember that lurking day1 is pretty scummy and check out all of the lurkers. | ||
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On January 28 2012 08:13 Blazinghand wrote: I wasn't aware scum knew who each other were. Of the three wagons currently rolling the only one with any credence to it is the Radfield wagon because he has pointed some pretty BSey stuff that the scum could use (as well as a "public key" type thing, but again i'm unsure as to how that would help them compress information), and that one's in the lead already. That being said, I just don't get how a scum player's gonna know Radfield's scum then jump onto another wagon with large enough numbers to change things. That bold portion shouldn't be that difficult to comprehend, and my problem is that I think Radfield is town and scum who agree with me are getting him lynched, if you are town I would hope you would see that Bum is likely scum and help lynch him, if not I would expect you to take the scum-safe option and vote for someone without a chance of getting lynched. Comprendé "broseph"? | ||
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So here's the new problem, why the heck aren't you voting? Well you have 4 logical courses of action. If you're town and you actually do believe that Radfield is scummy (here's a hint, you just said you do) then you might want to, you know, vote for him. If you're town and you don't believe he's scummy you would want to vote for someone else and push for them over Radfield. You do neither. That makes no sense, if you're town. Now if you're scum and you believe he's scum you should also be pushing for someone else. But if you're scum and you believe he's town, then you should quietly vote for someone else and let him get lynched so you can't take any blame for the townie lynch... Oh look DINGDINGDING we have a winner! | ||
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On January 28 2012 08:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Does that mean you don't think Radfield will flip scum? Also, why MZ over someone else who hasn't posted all of day 1? What other options? I think Lanaia's a decent choice but she 1 at least gave an excuse and more importantly 2 has now been active and 3 seemed less scummy with what she did do/say than MZ Refallen's gonna get modkilled. IDK who else has lurked, I'll check later, not enough time now. | ||
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On January 28 2012 09:01 Refallen wrote: Alright, seems like consensus is on Radfield. If he flips sleeper agent then we can probably take a closer look at Navi. Even if scum doesn't know who each other are, they'll still try to defend people they think are scum, so I certainly think that they deserve more of a look. Okay this is just stupid "If he flips sleeper agent"... His flip has literally 0% bearing on anyone else's alignment, and I mean completely definitely absolutely 0%, if I'm scum then I know the same things you do, I couldn't possibly be influenced by his actual alignment. Just stupid... | ||
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On January 28 2012 13:48 GreYMisT wrote: Well that's unfortunate. This issue will be absolved before the night is over, don't worry mortals According to google definitions you are either going to 1. Declare the issue free from blame, guilt, or responsibility. or 2. Give the issue absolution for a sin. | ||
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Same reasons as before until I get to look through stuff. A couple of asides 1. While I would love a CWave lynch and think the Wiggles shot also points to him being scum, I also think the Wiggles shot was probably them fishing for blues 2. I don't think Refallen is scum, or rather I think his play up until now has been null-tell, it honestly just looks super-noob to me and if he were a noob scum I would expect him to try to be much less obvious, noob-town fits perfectly, I'm not saying he's town but I certainly would not be on board with a lynch based on what we've seen up until now. | ||
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On another note I'm having a really tough time getting a read on Lanaia. | ||
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