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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2012 12:28 GMT
#514
Wtf ya doing red?
Why did you vote him Refallen?
I never mentioned aliens either V7.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2012 14:17 GMT
#516
On January 29 2012 22:15 Refallen wrote:
I voted him because he obviously had some sort of role related reason why he was asking people to vote. And since scum has no special powers, I figured he was a blue and thus I voted him...?

How is that scummy? The fuck?

You know this how????
And I never called nor implied you were scum. I simply asked why.
You have my vote.

##VOTE: Refallen
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2012 18:58 GMT
#526
On January 30 2012 03:50 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Was the scum team allowed to send out their first messages with the first day post?

Why'd you ask this question?


Jackal is probably scum btdubz

Because that changes whether or not they have as yet been able to identify each other. In the first Sleeper cell it required a minimum of 3 days for scum to know who each other were. This set up is much different.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2012 19:22 GMT
#529
On January 30 2012 04:20 redFF wrote:
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On January 30 2012 03:58 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2012 03:50 redFF wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Was the scum team allowed to send out their first messages with the first day post?

Why'd you ask this question?


Jackal is probably scum btdubz


I'm a dumbass

FTFY
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2012 02:47 GMT
#560
On January 30 2012 11:15 redFF wrote:
FOS jackal for posting in the other game but not this one

Lol.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2012 02:49 GMT
#561
On January 30 2012 10:42 Hesmyrr wrote:
I'm still not sure if he is really argumentative townie or scum. I really should meta him but can't really be bothered to do so at the moment, maybe after I lynch bumatlarge.

He's really argumentative as either.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2012 20:54 GMT
#603
On January 31 2012 05:41 Lanaia wrote:
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On January 30 2012 23:24 Hesmyrr wrote:
That's a lot of words, considering I still have no idea what you were saying on the post you pointed out. Also rather interesting standard for pointless question you have there: apparently asking someone opinion on other players is pointless while someone stating she feel something off about one of your posts requires a full dignified response xD

Agreed.

I know I'm suspecting people on rad's wagon, but he's a good player. I wouldn't lynch him d1. Also, he felt obviously town to me so I couldn't really understand why all those people were on him.

Reasons I think bum is scum:

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On January 28 2012 05:43 Lanaia wrote:
Bum I don't like. He's been saying things that I really think aren't good for us, but radfield pointed some of it out earlier. Now, I'm not terribly good at reading bum, but he's realllllllllly rubbing me the wrong way. Especially after iso'ing him.

I was avoiding parroting rad here.
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 27 2012 02:09 Radfield wrote:
However, I DO think Bum is a good lynch so far. Lets break it down:

* He made a post referencing that he thinks there are 5 mafia members. As I pointed out, this is one way for mafia to communicate. However, players do this all the time at the start of games with hidden mafia counts, so it is hardly damning.

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On January 26 2012 13:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I get the "calling people town" gig, but how would mafia figure out who each other are based on speculation? I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?

Mafia are going to find mafia based on reads rather then hints I would think. And above those, broadcasts are going to give them an edge. Seems kinda pointless.

I would be curious as to what GGQ and jackal would know to look out for in the first game, but jackal was LOL, and GGQ for all intent and purpose was a townie.



If you're looking for hidden breadcrumbs, this one jumps right out at you. Read that line, out of context it actually says "I could hint that I'm scum"

He also calls my suggestions pointless, even though it seem he understands them.

He also makes a random sentance about wanting Jackal/GGQ's advice while simultaneously mentioning that the advice would be pretty worthless.

These are all pretty minor things, but added up they constitute a slight case.


This doesn't feel like it comes from a town mindset. Sure, he was trying to avoid getting me lynched, but...
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On January 28 2012 04:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Lanaia is always wishy washy. Every game regardless of alignment.

Nice try to everyone stuffing their vote on her, but she should not be the lynch. I'd definitely lynch radfield over her. I don't have a proper read on navillus or cwave, but I have no problem lynching them.

He shouldn't want to lynch someone he has no proper read on over me. That's something that feels scummy. If he thinks I'm wishywashy as both town and scum, why would he bother lynching people with no proper reads over me? I can't make sense of that as it's illogical. I would have been a better lynch than radfield as he's a much much much better scumhunter than I am.

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On January 29 2012 03:59 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:38 Refallen wrote:

Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing...

but he breadcrumbs
I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?


here too,

Then when radfield calls him out on it,

Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba.


What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.


I wouldn't make this blatant a breadcrumb that can be misinterpretted so easily. The second post is a joke. Keep digging in your sandbox, and I'll give you actual methods of catching scum in the mean-time. If scum shoot me for whatever reason, you don't go searching radfield's voters for scum, or at least not the early ones. Radfield was far from a clear town, so I think most scum would be too pussy to act on lynching him until later.

Look at who you think is likely townie, and see if anyone voted for them. Analyze that person, and try to catch backwards logic. If you do, chances are they are scum trying to make a safe vote. That's all I have for now, but I'll be active in the beginning of the day later. End of night happens right as I leave work, so I can't really catch new developments


Jokes can still be used as crumbsssssss! The bolded is something I feel is WIFOM. You could be that blatant as scum because "oh, no one would ever actually suspect me because that would be stupid for scum to do."
In this post, he says "Rad was far from clear town." But he also says "Look at who you think is likely townie, and see if anyone voted for them. Analyze that person, and try to catch backwards logic. If you do, chances are they are scum trying to make a safe vote."
It feels to me like he was trying to avoid people looking at rad's wagon.
Some people have done that. I thought rad was town, and as such, I did look back at the wagon, as did a couple others (red, etc).

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On January 29 2012 14:35 bumatlarge wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a downward slope. I'll give you a hint, there is a reason everyone has called cwave scummy, and I am tied in votes with him.

This post is scummy. Deflecting attention off himself and onto Cwave when Cwave wasn't going to be lynched today, and with no reason. You can't just deflect off yourself and onto someone else with no substance. I think the winking face throws me off, but I don't understand why he posted this.

It seems to me bum had some idea about rad being an inception agent, refused to say anything, and let him get lynched whilst being on his wagon:
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On January 30 2012 15:36 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 30 2012 05:33 Hesmyrr wrote:
Voting for town =/= mafia. I recall you posting you were going to ISO players who voted for Radfield, RedFF. (#) Pretty funny your accusation against Jackal58 and bumatlarge only consist of argument "they are experienced and they killed Rad, die!!!!!", yeah? (#)

However I'm almost sure bumatlarge is scum now, after finding this gem while looking over his post.
On January 29 2012 10:12 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:00 Lanaia wrote:
You said it was radfield's fault he got lynched, did you not?
That part rubbed me the wrong way.

bum, who do YOU want to lynch most today?

Oh, I forgot about CWave. Could do for lynching him as well.


It was, he fucking hinted at inception agent but it went so far against the gist of what he was hiding it in, it seemed like he threw trash together to make a good post. Look at meapak's first post.


On January 26 2012 16:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Lol wow radfield, I’m actually shocked you slipped so bad in your first post. Your massive post was a massive warning to mafia and so hypocritical and here’s why.
On January 26 2012 12:22 Radfield wrote:
/confirm

On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues.



First things first, please do not do this. Consider: Mafia do not know who their partners are. Therefore, high up on the priority list of the mafia is figuring out who the other members are. We need to not let this happen easily. The mafia have access to several pieces of information we do not, most specifically the number of mafia in the game. Players popping out and saying they think there are X amount of mafia are immediately getting a note in my scum book. Why? It's one way for a mafia player to indicate he is mafia to the rest of the crew, without raising suspicion. Makes sense? So no speculation on mafia numbers please, at least not right now.

Second, mafia have very limited forms of communication this game, and from the looks of the Inception agent role, we can assume that town has some way to view their messages. This means mafia have to be extremely careful with what they write, so blatant things like lets kill X tomorrow are probably out. So mafia need a means to try to indicate to their brethren who should be getting hit. Imagine I am scum, I want to make sure that my buddies don't accidently send in hits on players I think are scummy, I want them to send in the hits on people I think seem like sure town. So what am I going to do? I'm going to repeatedly hammer it home in thread that I think Player Z is sure town. If there is general consensus among the group that player Z is town, he is a great target for mafia to lump in on.

We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'.

Benefits: Stops mafia from finding clear night-kill targets, and increases the chance of them shooting themselves.

Cons: Possibly leaves us low on town leaders. Certain players may spend too much time going after obvious townies.

Likewise, we should not be making medic lists. If you think a particular player should receive protection, that's probably cool, but no listing 3 or 4 people. In this game, that's just giving mafia a clear list of targets to shoot at, which is exactly what they need(a list). Medics in this scenario should be protecting whomever is most likely to die anyways, as there is no WIFOMing your medic protect around.

Third, and this is straight out of resistance mafia, no talking about mafia strats. We simply do not talk about optimal mafia moves, or likely moves, as that is simply a way for mafia to galvanize their actions together. In a game with minimal mafia interaction, we need to ensure that they cannot use the thread to disseminate information

So this game we talk about townie strats and townie moves, not mafia ones. On the flip side we do not call people likely town or town, we call them not scum or varying degrees of scum. Thoughts? Agreement or Disagreement?


LOLOL couldn’t you have hidden it better? For those who don’t see it, paragraph in red is basically a massive warning to fellow scum. Of course a scum post wouldn’t be complete without an obvious contradiction and rad doesn’t disappoint with his little ending bit about not giving advice to mafia.

Let’s start the day off right ##Vote: Radfield


I think the section we both saw as scummy, was the section radfield put the most effort into making. Therefore he may not have noticed how bad it looked when he said the second red paragraph. Also hence why I was sure radfield was scum when he basically called MZ town after posting that.

It's nice to see you being aggressive lanaia. I want to lynch cwave.

If you don't know, this is the post Lanaia apparently had bad vibe about:
On January 28 2012 15:41 bumatlarge wrote:
Meh it's radfield's fault

Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.

Okay, when you hunt scum the basic is trying to find a post that town would never make but scum would. And this, ladies and gentleman, is one. What Lanaia brought up honestly did not mean anything; literally anyone who thought Radfield defended himself poorly could have wrote that post without thinking. Bumatlarge could have simply said "well, that's what I really think. If Radfield played better his lynch could definitely have been averted" and that would have been the end.

Instead, bumatlarge refers back to the first post Radfield had made and tries to give really unconvincing explanation about how Radfield - because he was blue - deliberately wrote the red part and managed to screw himself. What? Did anyone understood what he meant to say? It feels to me that bum was really reaching for the explanation that sounds good and logical unnecessarily, and I can see only one reason why he would do that: I think bumatlarge panicked when Lanaia made that irrelevant attack and over-reacted. And only people who have something to hide would behave like that, namely scum.
##Vote bumatlarge

Also I still think CWave is VI.


Oh you filthy whore! People are voting me so I'm explaining why I had no qualms as town to oust radfield. If I said your lame excuse, that wouldn't be helping town. It sounds good? LOL that usually means it's true. You haven't touched on the actual substance of my reasoning, you are just guessing on why it could make me scum. The only thing that is hard to differentiate is if you really think I'm scum, or you are mafia, and either way you benefit from this. Please pay close attention to hesmyrr if I get lynched. Cwave being VI is probably the single most bullshit thing I have heard in the past few months. Zero explanation for it.

Also, people using breadcrumbs as a legitimate way to catch scum on the first day-


Bum's response to hesmyrr is overkill. His reply to my not liking him saying it was rad's fault was also overkill. The things Hesmyrr said about my pointing it out are things I agree with strongly.

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On January 30 2012 15:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues.




You guys make me mad. Also my backspace key gets stuck so I have to avoid the habit of pressing it or it start to erase my whole post.

This post literally made no sense in the place in the thread it was. I don't really understand why he even bothered saying it. Why were we making him mad? Because we thought he's scum?

He says a lot of the things people ask are pointless which is kind of silly, because it helps to generate discussion, which is important to the game of mafia.
Tell me if you want more out of me, Cwave. Moving onto my reasons for you now.

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2012 20:56 GMT
#604
On January 31 2012 05:41 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 23:24 Hesmyrr wrote:
That's a lot of words, considering I still have no idea what you were saying on the post you pointed out. Also rather interesting standard for pointless question you have there: apparently asking someone opinion on other players is pointless while someone stating she feel something off about one of your posts requires a full dignified response xD

Agreed.

I know I'm suspecting people on rad's wagon, but he's a good player. I wouldn't lynch him d1. Also, he felt obviously town to me so I couldn't really understand why all those people were on him.

Reasons I think bum is scum:

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On January 28 2012 05:43 Lanaia wrote:
Bum I don't like. He's been saying things that I really think aren't good for us, but radfield pointed some of it out earlier. Now, I'm not terribly good at reading bum, but he's realllllllllly rubbing me the wrong way. Especially after iso'ing him.

I was avoiding parroting rad here.
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 27 2012 02:09 Radfield wrote:
However, I DO think Bum is a good lynch so far. Lets break it down:

* He made a post referencing that he thinks there are 5 mafia members. As I pointed out, this is one way for mafia to communicate. However, players do this all the time at the start of games with hidden mafia counts, so it is hardly damning.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 13:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I get the "calling people town" gig, but how would mafia figure out who each other are based on speculation? I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?

Mafia are going to find mafia based on reads rather then hints I would think. And above those, broadcasts are going to give them an edge. Seems kinda pointless.

I would be curious as to what GGQ and jackal would know to look out for in the first game, but jackal was LOL, and GGQ for all intent and purpose was a townie.



If you're looking for hidden breadcrumbs, this one jumps right out at you. Read that line, out of context it actually says "I could hint that I'm scum"

He also calls my suggestions pointless, even though it seem he understands them.

He also makes a random sentance about wanting Jackal/GGQ's advice while simultaneously mentioning that the advice would be pretty worthless.

These are all pretty minor things, but added up they constitute a slight case.


This doesn't feel like it comes from a town mindset. Sure, he was trying to avoid getting me lynched, but...
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On January 28 2012 04:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Lanaia is always wishy washy. Every game regardless of alignment.

Nice try to everyone stuffing their vote on her, but she should not be the lynch. I'd definitely lynch radfield over her. I don't have a proper read on navillus or cwave, but I have no problem lynching them.

He shouldn't want to lynch someone he has no proper read on over me. That's something that feels scummy. If he thinks I'm wishywashy as both town and scum, why would he bother lynching people with no proper reads over me? I can't make sense of that as it's illogical. I would have been a better lynch than radfield as he's a much much much better scumhunter than I am.

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On January 29 2012 03:59 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:38 Refallen wrote:

Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing...

but he breadcrumbs
I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?


here too,

Then when radfield calls him out on it,

Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba.


What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.


I wouldn't make this blatant a breadcrumb that can be misinterpretted so easily. The second post is a joke. Keep digging in your sandbox, and I'll give you actual methods of catching scum in the mean-time. If scum shoot me for whatever reason, you don't go searching radfield's voters for scum, or at least not the early ones. Radfield was far from a clear town, so I think most scum would be too pussy to act on lynching him until later.

Look at who you think is likely townie, and see if anyone voted for them. Analyze that person, and try to catch backwards logic. If you do, chances are they are scum trying to make a safe vote. That's all I have for now, but I'll be active in the beginning of the day later. End of night happens right as I leave work, so I can't really catch new developments


Jokes can still be used as crumbsssssss! The bolded is something I feel is WIFOM. You could be that blatant as scum because "oh, no one would ever actually suspect me because that would be stupid for scum to do."
In this post, he says "Rad was far from clear town." But he also says "Look at who you think is likely townie, and see if anyone voted for them. Analyze that person, and try to catch backwards logic. If you do, chances are they are scum trying to make a safe vote."
It feels to me like he was trying to avoid people looking at rad's wagon.
Some people have done that. I thought rad was town, and as such, I did look back at the wagon, as did a couple others (red, etc).

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On January 29 2012 14:35 bumatlarge wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a downward slope. I'll give you a hint, there is a reason everyone has called cwave scummy, and I am tied in votes with him.

This post is scummy. Deflecting attention off himself and onto Cwave when Cwave wasn't going to be lynched today, and with no reason. You can't just deflect off yourself and onto someone else with no substance. I think the winking face throws me off, but I don't understand why he posted this.

It seems to me bum had some idea about rad being an inception agent, refused to say anything, and let him get lynched whilst being on his wagon:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 15:36 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 30 2012 05:33 Hesmyrr wrote:
Voting for town =/= mafia. I recall you posting you were going to ISO players who voted for Radfield, RedFF. (#) Pretty funny your accusation against Jackal58 and bumatlarge only consist of argument "they are experienced and they killed Rad, die!!!!!", yeah? (#)

However I'm almost sure bumatlarge is scum now, after finding this gem while looking over his post.
On January 29 2012 10:12 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:00 Lanaia wrote:
You said it was radfield's fault he got lynched, did you not?
That part rubbed me the wrong way.

bum, who do YOU want to lynch most today?

Oh, I forgot about CWave. Could do for lynching him as well.


It was, he fucking hinted at inception agent but it went so far against the gist of what he was hiding it in, it seemed like he threw trash together to make a good post. Look at meapak's first post.


On January 26 2012 16:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Lol wow radfield, I’m actually shocked you slipped so bad in your first post. Your massive post was a massive warning to mafia and so hypocritical and here’s why.
On January 26 2012 12:22 Radfield wrote:
/confirm

On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues.



First things first, please do not do this. Consider: Mafia do not know who their partners are. Therefore, high up on the priority list of the mafia is figuring out who the other members are. We need to not let this happen easily. The mafia have access to several pieces of information we do not, most specifically the number of mafia in the game. Players popping out and saying they think there are X amount of mafia are immediately getting a note in my scum book. Why? It's one way for a mafia player to indicate he is mafia to the rest of the crew, without raising suspicion. Makes sense? So no speculation on mafia numbers please, at least not right now.

Second, mafia have very limited forms of communication this game, and from the looks of the Inception agent role, we can assume that town has some way to view their messages. This means mafia have to be extremely careful with what they write, so blatant things like lets kill X tomorrow are probably out. So mafia need a means to try to indicate to their brethren who should be getting hit. Imagine I am scum, I want to make sure that my buddies don't accidently send in hits on players I think are scummy, I want them to send in the hits on people I think seem like sure town. So what am I going to do? I'm going to repeatedly hammer it home in thread that I think Player Z is sure town. If there is general consensus among the group that player Z is town, he is a great target for mafia to lump in on.

We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'.

Benefits: Stops mafia from finding clear night-kill targets, and increases the chance of them shooting themselves.

Cons: Possibly leaves us low on town leaders. Certain players may spend too much time going after obvious townies.

Likewise, we should not be making medic lists. If you think a particular player should receive protection, that's probably cool, but no listing 3 or 4 people. In this game, that's just giving mafia a clear list of targets to shoot at, which is exactly what they need(a list). Medics in this scenario should be protecting whomever is most likely to die anyways, as there is no WIFOMing your medic protect around.

Third, and this is straight out of resistance mafia, no talking about mafia strats. We simply do not talk about optimal mafia moves, or likely moves, as that is simply a way for mafia to galvanize their actions together. In a game with minimal mafia interaction, we need to ensure that they cannot use the thread to disseminate information

So this game we talk about townie strats and townie moves, not mafia ones. On the flip side we do not call people likely town or town, we call them not scum or varying degrees of scum. Thoughts? Agreement or Disagreement?


LOLOL couldn’t you have hidden it better? For those who don’t see it, paragraph in red is basically a massive warning to fellow scum. Of course a scum post wouldn’t be complete without an obvious contradiction and rad doesn’t disappoint with his little ending bit about not giving advice to mafia.

Let’s start the day off right ##Vote: Radfield


I think the section we both saw as scummy, was the section radfield put the most effort into making. Therefore he may not have noticed how bad it looked when he said the second red paragraph. Also hence why I was sure radfield was scum when he basically called MZ town after posting that.

It's nice to see you being aggressive lanaia. I want to lynch cwave.

If you don't know, this is the post Lanaia apparently had bad vibe about:
On January 28 2012 15:41 bumatlarge wrote:
Meh it's radfield's fault

Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.

Okay, when you hunt scum the basic is trying to find a post that town would never make but scum would. And this, ladies and gentleman, is one. What Lanaia brought up honestly did not mean anything; literally anyone who thought Radfield defended himself poorly could have wrote that post without thinking. Bumatlarge could have simply said "well, that's what I really think. If Radfield played better his lynch could definitely have been averted" and that would have been the end.

Instead, bumatlarge refers back to the first post Radfield had made and tries to give really unconvincing explanation about how Radfield - because he was blue - deliberately wrote the red part and managed to screw himself. What? Did anyone understood what he meant to say? It feels to me that bum was really reaching for the explanation that sounds good and logical unnecessarily, and I can see only one reason why he would do that: I think bumatlarge panicked when Lanaia made that irrelevant attack and over-reacted. And only people who have something to hide would behave like that, namely scum.
##Vote bumatlarge

Also I still think CWave is VI.


Oh you filthy whore! People are voting me so I'm explaining why I had no qualms as town to oust radfield. If I said your lame excuse, that wouldn't be helping town. It sounds good? LOL that usually means it's true. You haven't touched on the actual substance of my reasoning, you are just guessing on why it could make me scum. The only thing that is hard to differentiate is if you really think I'm scum, or you are mafia, and either way you benefit from this. Please pay close attention to hesmyrr if I get lynched. Cwave being VI is probably the single most bullshit thing I have heard in the past few months. Zero explanation for it.

Also, people using breadcrumbs as a legitimate way to catch scum on the first day-


Bum's response to hesmyrr is overkill. His reply to my not liking him saying it was rad's fault was also overkill. The things Hesmyrr said about my pointing it out are things I agree with strongly.

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 15:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues.




You guys make me mad. Also my backspace key gets stuck so I have to avoid the habit of pressing it or it start to erase my whole post.

This post literally made no sense in the place in the thread it was. I don't really understand why he even bothered saying it. Why were we making him mad? Because we thought he's scum?

He says a lot of the things people ask are pointless which is kind of silly, because it helps to generate discussion, which is important to the game of mafia.
Tell me if you want more out of me, Cwave. Moving onto my reasons for you now.


Why should he want to lynch you over somebody he doesn't have a solid read on when he doesn't have a solid read on you?
It that a confession?


And sorry about the above post I hist post instead of bold.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2012 00:52 GMT
#618
On January 31 2012 09:28 redFF wrote:
Jackal tomorrow.

You'd be better off shooting me tonight scum.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2012 01:52 GMT
#622
Scamp
redFF
Lanaia
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2012 03:04 GMT
#625
Dooo eeeeet
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2012 03:29 GMT
#629
On January 31 2012 12:17 Lanaia wrote:
I don't think jackal's scum. I'll be back in just over an hour. Making the trip back to dorms. Anything you guys need out of me before daystart?

Pick up Vader some Ipecac.
Get better man.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2012 13:19 GMT
#636
Boo hoo. You called me an asshole once.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 31 2012 23:31 GMT
#642
On February 01 2012 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 07:49 Refallen wrote:
Well fuck, I meant to type " I don't think you or BH are scum . What you get from posing on an iPhone.


Don't worry your play otherwise this game has been exemplary-- one minor error in a history of solid play can be overlooked.

If you're scum. You scum BH?

I'll be back late tonight. Have fun with me.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2012 03:05 GMT
#670
On February 01 2012 10:48 redFF wrote:
lets lynch Jackal
##Vote Jackal

I'm town dummy.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2012 03:07 GMT
#671
On February 01 2012 11:15 redFF wrote:
If I was scum I wouldn't know you were the truth since I wouldn't know who my buddies were.

Ya you do. By this point in the game all scum know each other. Unless they are brain dead. Are you brain dead?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2012 03:32 GMT
#683
On February 01 2012 12:29 redFF wrote:
anyone wanna discuss the nokill?

You're idiots?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2012 11:14 GMT
#691
On February 01 2012 12:40 redFF wrote:
If i'm scum then vote me jackal.

Sure thing boss man.

##VOTE: redFF
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2012 16:00 GMT
#702
On February 01 2012 23:29 Refallen wrote:
I'm not the one calling out lurkers; and unlike him, I actually voted for bumatlarge without a pre-wagon already forming on him.

Bullshit. You were the next to last to vote for him.

On January 31 2012 13:41 Refallen wrote:
Yeah jackal tomorrow.
And Lanaia I don't know wtf you're smoking I said I don't think you or BH are scum.

You did say it.

On January 31 2012 08:14 Refallen wrote:
Looks like I survive today.
Fwiw I dont think Lanaia or blazinghand is town.

Gonna write up a case when I get back from school! Stay tuned!



On February 01 2012 07:49 Refallen wrote:
Well fuck, I meant to type " I don't think you or BH are scum . What you get from posing on an iPhone.

That's not a fucking typo.

Refallen is scum. He was yesterday and he still is today. Except today he dies.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2012 16:52 GMT
#704
Baloney.
On January 31 2012 08:14 Refallen wrote:
Looks like I survive today.
Fwiw I dont think Lanaia or blazinghand is town.

Gonna write up a case when I get back from school! Stay tuned!

You don't write up a case on townies. Speaking of which what did you write up on who?

Your case on Bum + Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2012 21:38 Refallen wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I feel really retarded right now. Real life has been a continual bitch and things keep popping up, and I feel like I have acted very irresponsibly by joining this game.

So, to try and salve my guilty conscious a bit, here's a case on bumatlarge.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 17:26 bumatlarge wrote:
I've always been a fan of not saying who I think is town, and just saying who I think is scum. I think that's what radfield is trying to say.

I do agree with meapak, that one glaring middle section in radfield's post is suspicious, I think it's more of him over-emphasizing his point to a degree that he actual talks about the exact strat he is trying to prevent. I think the major offender is this: "We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'."

It makes the whole warning completely void when you push that, rather then simply not discussing your town reads.


Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing...

but he breadcrumbs
Show nested quote +
I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?


here too,

Then when radfield calls him out on it,

Show nested quote +
Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba.


What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.

Then he pushes Radfield over and over again over that little 'not scum' part of the plan, and Radfield is lynched and turned blue.
Show nested quote +

Meh it's radfield's fault

Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.


Or maybe it's because you among many was tunneling him over a case which never really grew from the first point of Radfield establishing a "not scum" term to describe townies.

Really regret missing out on the timetable for the game and having to vote in less than a min when I woke up and checked the thread, and so just throwing my vote on Radfield not having read like 10 pages of the thread. That was just terrible by me.

Isn't really much of a case. It's a stretch at best. Your own vote on Radfield was scummy. Your admission of it being scummy is not a pass. You're scum bro.
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