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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 02:22 GMT
#1420
Good work, gents. V7 your story really didn't add up, and I had you on my shit list, but unfortunately I wasn't able to get you. Good work, though. Well played. Also what is Attention whore.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 02:23 GMT
#1422
Oh I get it! you're immune at night, but if you don't get a vote during the day you die!
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 02:25 GMT
#1427
On February 14 2012 11:24 vaderseven wrote:
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On February 14 2012 11:22 Blazinghand wrote:
Good work, gents. V7 your story really didn't add up, and I had you on my shit list, but unfortunately I wasn't able to get you. Good work, though. Well played. Also what is Attention whore.


Honestly the scum team was well... it lurked to the endgame.

I actually had no confirmation about Hess or GGQ but I could just tell they were scum.


GGQ was pretty clear. That was a really solid bus.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 02:34 GMT
#1440
On February 14 2012 11:32 Zephirdd wrote:
OH yeah, question to town.

Why the fuck did you lynch radfield LOL

Seriously, I pissed myself from laughter from that lynch


I couldn't figure rad out, and I was pretty sure of bum being town... so I broke the tie in rad's favor ;_;
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 02:42 GMT
#1441
Thanks for hosting by the way igrok! and thanks for the awesome cohosting greymist!
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 02:52 GMT
#1451
dude man red chillax town had a legitimate chance to win-- if V7 held fire rather than going into quick draw mode you and cwave could have just lynched him.
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Blazinghand *
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Last Edited: 2012-02-14 02:55:03
February 14 2012 02:54 GMT
#1453
On February 14 2012 11:53 iGrok wrote:
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On February 14 2012 11:45 redFF wrote:
fuck you for wasting my time with this shit, win-con should always be scum outnumber or equal town

That just doesn't work in Sleeper Cell, because scum don't know each other's identities.


Oh yeah, I forgot there's the potential for a scum friendly-fire night kill or lynch control attempt. I actually really like this style of game because of the unique information asymmetry and scum situation.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:01 GMT
#1462
On February 14 2012 11:58 redFF wrote:
can we get some people who aren't pants on head retarded to come agree with me


I think it should have been reasonably clear with some analysis that V7's claim had holes in it (navillius and n2 no-check, as well as the fact that he had to respost it, just off hand), and he was scum, not you.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:06 GMT
#1467
On February 14 2012 12:04 redFF wrote:
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On February 14 2012 12:01 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2012 11:58 redFF wrote:
can we get some people who aren't pants on head retarded to come agree with me


I think it should have been reasonably clear with some analysis that V7's claim had holes in it (navillius and n2 no-check, as well as the fact that he had to respost it, just off hand), and he was scum, not you.

but it was zeph, v7 myself and cwave how can town win from that


you lynch zeph, V7 holds his fire to avoid a quick-draw competition, then it's LYLO with 2 towns 1 scum.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:08 GMT
#1473
;_; hey man a lot of things went wrong for town but overall I think you and I managed to pull things together a bit as we pushed towards the end. I think Lanaia soft-claimed too early, and when she did claim Jackal shouldn't have tried to confirm her claim by throwing away an extra town vote, etc, but this was an exciting and exhilarating game. Would play again.

Also, I'm sorry for the poopey mouth remark.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:09 GMT
#1477
On February 14 2012 12:09 redFF wrote:
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On February 14 2012 12:08 Blazinghand wrote:
;_; hey man a lot of things went wrong for town but overall I think you and I managed to pull things together a bit as we pushed towards the end. I think Lanaia soft-claimed too early, and when she did claim Jackal shouldn't have tried to confirm her claim by throwing away an extra town vote, etc, but this was an exciting and exhilarating game. Would play again.

Also, I'm sorry for the poopey mouth remark.

we had all 5 scum practically confirmed, we didn't pull anything together


;_; we got a draw... and we almost got a win!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:11 GMT
#1482
On February 14 2012 12:10 redFF wrote:
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On February 14 2012 12:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2012 12:09 redFF wrote:
On February 14 2012 12:08 Blazinghand wrote:
;_; hey man a lot of things went wrong for town but overall I think you and I managed to pull things together a bit as we pushed towards the end. I think Lanaia soft-claimed too early, and when she did claim Jackal shouldn't have tried to confirm her claim by throwing away an extra town vote, etc, but this was an exciting and exhilarating game. Would play again.

Also, I'm sorry for the poopey mouth remark.

we had all 5 scum practically confirmed, we didn't pull anything together


;_; we got a draw... and we almost got a win!

no we didn't almost get a win


Well, if Jack didn't claim blue or if Lanaia didn't give out the exact distro of her checks (2 G 1 B), we could have kept the Senator alive. I think you did a pretty solid job.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:21 GMT
#1501
...Or if Jackal made it to the 1-1 situation.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 03:31 GMT
#1515
Ok guys I think we should all just take a break from this thread for like a day. I'm gonna go do that now, and if we all do that we'll feel much better.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 16:47 GMT
#1543
Thanks again to iGrok and GreyMist for the sweet moderation <3

I feel like with marginally better town or blue play this would have been a totally different story. Looking over it, I think my big mistake this game was going after Refallen. It should have been fairly obvious that his interaction with redFF was not scummy, but I wasn't able to figure that out. I should have been more aggressive about V7's claim-- I knew something was fishy but wasn't able to sniff it out before getting shot ;_;

Thanks for a fun game everyone!

Also btw one thing iGrok to take a look at is Zona's Purgatory Mafia. She had like 3-4 alternative win / stalemate avoidance conditions in her win conditions. I think a couple of things in the style of that might have avoided the weirdness at the end of the game. Keep up the good work!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 17:22 GMT
#1545
On February 15 2012 02:16 iGrok wrote:
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On February 15 2012 01:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Thanks again to iGrok and GreyMist for the sweet moderation <3

I feel like with marginally better town or blue play this would have been a totally different story. Looking over it, I think my big mistake this game was going after Refallen. It should have been fairly obvious that his interaction with redFF was not scummy, but I wasn't able to figure that out. I should have been more aggressive about V7's claim-- I knew something was fishy but wasn't able to sniff it out before getting shot ;_;

Thanks for a fun game everyone!

Also btw one thing iGrok to take a look at is Zona's Purgatory Mafia. She had like 3-4 alternative win / stalemate avoidance conditions in her win conditions. I think a couple of things in the style of that might have avoided the weirdness at the end of the game. Keep up the good work!

I'll take a look at ideas like that. The difficulty with that is that I can't make alternate win scenarios public, because all the roles are mostly) secret. Still, that's a good idea, and I'll probably incorporate that into the next Sleeper Cell, if/when there is one.


Oh yeah in Zona's setup I guess it's different because the exact role distribution was known to all factions. Maybe a change of the wording to be "When there are 0 town-aligned players, or there is no way to prevent this from coming to pass" or something like that? I'm sure you'll think of something.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 20:37 GMT
#1553
On February 15 2012 04:39 vaderseven wrote:
Acctually ya zephs idea is the best. The core of this setup is NOT the BP it is the communication that scum use and thw inception agent.

I would say go for town having two dreamer roles that are not identical.


You should have one of them be called The Architect, just because it would be a good complement (name-wise) to Inception Agent.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 14 2012 22:59 GMT
#1565
On February 15 2012 07:56 redFF wrote:
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The mafia wins when they equal or outnumber the remaining townies or nothing can keep that from happening
problem solved



Would it also work if it were like this?

The mafia wins when there are no town players left or nothing can keep that from happening
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 17:12:01
February 15 2012 17:09 GMT
#1582
OK I have no idea if this is balanced but a sweet role would be "The Architect" who can send (but not receive) messages. Would that be balanced at all? It would be pretty fluffy imo, but I feel like it might disrupt scum communiques. Maybe only under certain conditions?

EDIT: possibly replacing the BP role
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