Ah no dude it's fine I'll think of some stuff for tomorrow. We're not in an enormous rush since we're lynching GGQ today. The real person who we're waiting on atm is redFF.

Blazinghand

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February 10 2012 08:46 GMT

#1256

On February 10 2012 17:42 Cwave wrote:
Mhhh interesting twist. So you claim to be our second detective and you get a null read from Redff.
Our town having 2 detectives in this setup seems a bit OP no?

1 confirmed detective (lanaia), 1 confirmed inception agent (rad), 1 confirmed Senator (Jack), 1 unconfirmed detective (V7)

That brins us up to 4 blues, but more like 3.5 since the Senator is a weak blue role. Also, the inception agent is a situational role.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:04 GMT

#1260

btw redFF literally nobody believes zeph's so-called "case" lol don't even worry

The your and V7's stories fit together to explain what happened with the no-kill and V7's results. This seems reasonable to me.

So at this point... I guess we just lynch GGQ and Zeph and call it a day.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:21 GMT

#1263

i would be very surprised if there was a lynch proof scum, since town doesn't have KP roles, it seems.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:35 GMT

#1267

I know what the deal was with the vote bs, V7. I can explain if you'd like.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:36 GMT

#1268

What we know from Lanaia's stuff
Investigated by Lanaia:
Blazinghand returned "town"
CWave returned "town

Uninvestigated:
Zephirdd
V7
GGQ
redFF

So far we have killed two mafia members, Scamp and Hesmyrr. In a balanced setup I'd anticipate two of the Uninvestigated players are mafia. It seems consistent to me that this be the case, so Zeph/GGQ as remaining scum.

Our blues
In terms of having a stacked town, we are now up to 3 confirmed roles, 2 unconfirmed roles.

confirmed: lanaia as DT, Rad as Inception, Jack as Senator
unconfirmed: V7 as DT, redFF as Bulletproof

This seems pretty stacked, right? 5 blues, 4 scum in a 15 player game with imperfect scumteam communication.

However, jack's role isn't that strong in this game, and he mostly stands as a win0condition-modifier:
"Mafia wins when they outnumber Town and Town has no killing roles remaining."

Jack's job was to make it so that in a 4-4 situation, Mafia wouldn't be able to control the vote before fulfilling their win condition.

That brings us down to 4 "real" blues. But we have no clue how strong inception agent is, and Bulletproof is good but redFF isn't a DT or a medic or anything. I'm not sure that it's imbalanced for all the claims to be true AND there to be exactly 4 mafia.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:45 GMT

#1271

Yeah I mean, I guess the big thing is, even if there's a 5th scum, we should GGQ and Zeph first. If there are 4 scum, we win, and if there are 5 scum, well... crap, we already lost several phases ago.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:48 GMT

#1273

Like, ASSUMING there are 5 scum, we can still get a draw, but only if redFF is clean. see, redFF is bulletproof, and after we've lynched GGQ and Zeph (and 2 of V7, blazinghand, and cwave have been shot), it'll be redFF and a scum player hanging out in the thread, unable to lynch or shoot, in a draw situation.

In the 5 scum situation, cwave or I is a godfather or vader7 is a scum DT.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 16:49 GMT

#1275

Cya. I think we basically have this locked up as a win for town if there's 4 scum, a draw if there's a 5th scum, or a loss of redFF is the 5th scum.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 17:16 GMT

#1279

I would be in favor of switching to a 24/24 cycle.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 17:17 GMT

#1281

Yeah i mean, step 1) lynch GGQ and Zeph, step 2) if the game isn't over, we've god a godfather or V7 is a scum rolecop

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 17:27 GMT

#1284

lol it's funny watching scum squirm before they die

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 17:29 GMT

#1285

So zeph your theory is the scumteam friendly-fired redFF n2?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 17:35 GMT

#1288

No not really. So you think redFF is a night-action-immune scum player and got friendly-fired n2. I'm gonna go take a look at his filter and see if it's reasonable that scum would think he's blue at that point.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 17:47 GMT

#1289

Zeph you're comfortable leaving your vote on red?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 18:13 GMT

#1294

On February 11 2012 03:04 Zephirdd wrote:

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lol why does it matter anyways

I want red lynched, I'll leave my vote on him; GGQ is getting lynched today anyways, so it really doesn't matter.

I'm sorry man, I find you utterly unconvincing.

I'll do my best to see things from your point of view, but really, imagine you're in my shoes and know what I know-- would you really lynch redFF over you? Looking at your respective filters and how you've been playing this game, that is. As you can see, you haven't been super convincing ;_; but at least you have plenty of time to convince me right?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 18:22 GMT

#1296

I feel like redFF was requesting votes, I think, to draw mafia fire.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

February 10 2012 18:35 GMT

#1298

On February 11 2012 03:33 vaderseven wrote:
Zeph you want to vote the claimed BP over the scanned scum?

Yeah I don't even know what his deal is. Even with an accelerated schedule though he has plenty of time to make a case before the 2nd lynch so it should be all good.