I saw that quote as trying to get the channeler to jail HoD instead of him that night, not soft-claiming blue.

But obviously, there is a 50% chance that RoL was the acolyte.

I need to read syllo's filter

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January 16 2012 10:43 GMT

#1936

I think Zeph read that situation way wrongly, as I told him when he first brought it up right after syllo claimed that he wanted to die.

...I find it weird he pointed that out again though. Do you think he's a demon?

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January 16 2012 10:59 GMT

#1942

HoD will illuminate you, so you should be safe tonight.

And sorry, watching GSL, will be back soon.

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January 16 2012 11:10 GMT

#1944

Alright, so layabout, you have some explaining to you, and he's definitely the prime target today.

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January 16 2012 11:17 GMT

#1946

It depends on who the player is. Obviously if he's already scummy and you see him as not dark you should probably come out so we can lynch an angel today. Then again, we have 4 people here who are either VT/Sage, while only 2 angels left, so the odds don't really favor us here. It depends if you're sure the player is scummy enough to be an angel and also to be lynched today.

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January 16 2012 11:21 GMT

#1948

Go ahead

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January 16 2012 11:44 GMT

#1960

Honestly, if seer is alive and has three not angel checks/ one angel check I feel like he should just claim now. If we get an angel today, seer will die tonight to the last angel, but at least it's guaranteed that angel cannot have 2kp. If he's the angel of death even better, no more ??? flips. Leave the demon killing to the DH, and this also allows HoD to get an extra night of reads before he's offed, as well as guarantee BH surviving throughout the night.

What do you think?

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January 16 2012 11:49 GMT

#1962

Jackal where are you?

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January 16 2012 12:03 GMT

#1965

Blazing what do you think of seer claiming his reads? Town is pretty much at lylo today.

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January 16 2012 12:13 GMT

#1970

I want us to lynch Dirkzor today imo.

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January 16 2012 12:35 GMT

#1974

Reading through syllo's filter, I don't really see any breadcrumbs (unless you count his read against Zeph). So he's probably not the sage. And he's not the demon hunter either; on night 3, spaackle died. Syllo already said he thought Tyrran and Grackaroni are the last demons so he obviously would have hit the DH.

So syllo is a VT.

Channeler is dead.

So we have the following roles now

Seer - outed, HoD, only read is Grackaroni as not demon though.
Demon Hunter - outing him does nothing for town, since it was clear who his targets were (Palmar/Cwave/Spaackle)
Sage - Potentially 3 angel reads, hopefully we have a live angel read among them
Corrupted townie - Outed, blazinghand, has one non-dark read for us to use.

If sage has 1 angel read and 2 other non-angel reads, with Blazinghand's non-dark read and HoD's Grackaroni non-demon read, as well as an extra read during this night cycle (assuming angels kill sage here, sounds like the most reasonable thing to do), we can lynch an angel tonight, have the DH hit layabout, and come out in a decent positon on day 5.

So yes, I think the sage should claim. Not the DH though.

Now, back to old fashioned scumhunting instead of talking about the setup. blazinghand, what do you think of Dirkzor as our lynch target today? I made a small case on him during night 3.

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January 16 2012 13:41 GMT

#1977

On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote:

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Just got to work and getting caught up.
Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am"

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If RoL was an Angel they might. If RoL was Channeler and there are still 3 Angels remaining I wouldn't count on it.
I'm gonna call it now. Dirkzor and Layabout are the Demons. Bluelightz is an Angel. I have no clue yet as to who the remaining one or two are.

I actually think Dirkzor is an angel, and Layabout is a demon. No idea about bluelightz.

Do you agree that we need to lynch an angel today? Also, following that, do you think sage should claim today?

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January 16 2012 14:41 GMT

#1983

HoD claimed Seer**** the demon DT. Angel DT hasn't claimed yet, I think he should claim now if he's still alive. If he's not, that means syllo was the angel DT, which means time to look for his posts for breadcrumbs (again)

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January 16 2012 15:52 GMT

#1988

Uh, sorry, yes I got mixed up with sage and seer again. What I'm trying to say is, do you agree, Jackal, that the seer should claim if he's still alive?

And Grack, that's a good point. Syllo wouldn't have had a chance to peek.

So we have a real high chance of not having any DT peeks this game, except for HoD's Grack not demon peek. What a retarded situation.

Right, I'm going to bed. I'll like to hear thoughts on lynching Grackaroni.

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January 16 2012 23:24 GMT

#2051

^^ This. With the unknown flips we cannot be 100% certain who has flipped what, so the best we can do is to make reasonable assumptions.

HoD's sage claim has to stand because obviously, no one has counterclaimed it. And wiggles was channeled by virtue of te fact that RoL fake-claimed channeler because there was no way RoL was town. No way. So RoL is an angel, either acolyte or observer, because he knew that channeler was dead and he could try fake-claiming that role.

Jackal, you said you were confused by the flips. Does the above sound logical to you? If so, does your lynch target still stay as bluelightz?

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January 16 2012 23:29 GMT

#2052

Meant to point to HoD's post not layabout's. And yes it is impossible because there was only one ??? Flip when the two of them claimed. Roll's claim was stealing wiggles role. Also explains why wiggles died, observer probably saw him banishing syllo, so he became a target. With the only ??? Flip confirmed at that time, now HoD is confirmed to be sage by virtue of there being no counter-claim. The only scenario that HoD could be lying was that syllo is the sage, and angels got really fucking lucky on killing him before day starts, because once there is a counterclaim HoD was gonna be lynched for sure.

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January 17 2012 00:16 GMT

#2064

Tyrran if you think there's no basis for thinking RoL is an angel you are an idiot/scum

Also layabout if you think I'm an angel you're also scum/idiot

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January 17 2012 00:39 GMT

#2066

RoL wouldn't have known to claim channeled if he was demon though

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January 17 2012 01:31 GMT

#2069

We need to decide on a lynxh target. I do not mind lynching either dirkzor/Tyrran/layabout here

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