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On January 14 2012 03:15 Tyrran wrote:
@Blazinghand : Is there anyone other than RoL that you would like to lynch ? What is your stance on HoD and Dirkzor ?
@Jackal: You mention that HoD is a good lynch. Why do you think so ?
Fair probability he is AoD.
On January 14 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 03:15 Tyrran wrote:
@Blazinghand : Is there anyone other than RoL that you would like to lynch ? What is your stance on HoD and Dirkzor ?
Yes. HoD: I don't think we can straight-up say he's the AoD as some have suggested. he'd be a decent DT check. Dirkzor: Haven't read his filter
No we can't. But there is a greater chance of him than any other I could name.
Please read Dirkzor's filter.
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On January 14 2012 10:10 layabout wrote:
I think that hammering risk.nuke murdered the town atmosphere and so we should delay the lynch.
+ we shouldn't lynch while players are asleep and not aware of what is happening.
(BL left when HoD had 1 or 2 votes)
I'm sorry. That was not my intent at all. I thought I had caught some scumbuddies but I was wrong. I will not be hammering anybody today. Unless you all want to switch your votes to Dirkzor.
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On January 14 2012 10:38 Refallen wrote:
You know, I feel like HoD might have a fair chance of flipping AoD, and I do feel like his play is different from when he was town in Election Mafia... but I don't like how fast the wagon on him is forming. People like Tyrran, and Grackaroni, (who btw said he'll vote Harb but hasn't voted yet) still look kind of scummy to me. As TnTP he as way more active in defending other people and scumhunting, while this game all it seems is that he's been defending himself.
Still, wouldn't a better course of option be to lynch Rebirth, then banish HoD to Purg today?
I like that idea but BlueLightz would be the better lynch I think.
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On January 14 2012 10:47 Grackaroni wrote:
@Jackal: I thought you wanted to lynch dirkzor? Why BL and not dirkzor...
@Refallen: my vote is the 4th one there. double check before posting. The idea itself is good though, I would be happy to lynch RoL or spaackle and to banish HoD to purgatory.
What I want is to lynch scum. Nobody but me apparently sees Dirkzor for the scum he is. So I'm willing to go with the other that appears to be obvscum. That is BlueLightz. HoD is possibly the AoD but Refallen has devised a means to determine that. I have no problem with that but the channeler has to make it happen. I'm not as convinced on RoL as I am on Dirk or BL.
On January 14 2012 10:49 Refallen wrote:
Honestly I don't know what to think of Bluelightz. He dosen't make any sense to me at all. I feel like no one is going to oppose lynching him, but then he might just as likely flip town vanilla, something that has happened countless times when we tried to go after people who aren't making any sense (again, election mafia comes to mind here).
That being said, HoD now has 5 votes. Tyrran and Grackaroni I'm not sure of, but I'm fairly certain layabout, syllo, and Zeph are all town. Jackal, what do you think of us two hammering? I feel like a switch is unlikely at this point.
I'm not hammering anybody atm. My obsessive/compulsive side got the best of me yesterday. I'm not doing it again. Unless there are 6 votes on Dirkzor. Then boom.
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Why didn't RoL flip? What am I missing here?
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Thanks Syllo, I found it. Zona shouldn't call him the concealer. He should be called the WIFOM generator.
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On January 16 2012 07:47 Dirkzor wrote:
For funzies i just counted Jackals postings about me. They are at 15, most of which he calls me scum and a few where he just want others to read my filter or something...
I'm certainly not going to start calling you a townie. You are scum.
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On January 16 2012 20:49 Refallen wrote:
Jackal where are you?
Just got to work and getting caught up.
Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am"
On January 16 2012 21:13 Blazinghand wrote:
The other option we have is to openly ask an angel to claim-- we lynch the angel then the remaining angel splits fire with the demon hunter between me and layabout. This can be done if Syllogism was the Seer. The angels *MAY* agree to this because if they don't, there's a high chance the demons just win. they probably won't if the acolyte is somehow alive, and just try to kill both me and layabout themselves tonight.
If RoL was an Angel they might. If RoL was Channeler and there are still 3 Angels remaining I wouldn't count on it.
I'm gonna call it now. Dirkzor and Layabout are the Demons. Bluelightz is an Angel. I have no clue yet as to who the remaining one or two are.
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QUOTE]On January 16 2012 22:41 Refallen wrote:
On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote:Just got to work and getting caught up. Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am" Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 21:13 Blazinghand wrote:
The other option we have is to openly ask an angel to claim-- we lynch the angel then the remaining angel splits fire with the demon hunter between me and layabout. This can be done if Syllogism was the Seer. The angels *MAY* agree to this because if they don't, there's a high chance the demons just win. they probably won't if the acolyte is somehow alive, and just try to kill both me and layabout themselves tonight. If RoL was an Angel they might. If RoL was Channeler and there are still 3 Angels remaining I wouldn't count on it. I'm gonna call it now. Dirkzor and Layabout are the Demons. Bluelightz is an Angel. I have no clue yet as to who the remaining one or two are.
I actually think Dirkzor is an angel, and Layabout is a demon. No idea about bluelightz.
Do you agree that we need to lynch an angel today? Also, following that, do you think sage should claim today?[/QUOTE]
HoD already claimed sage???????? Whether he is telling the truth has yet to be determined.
If RoL was an Angel I see the Demons as being more of a danger to us than Angels. If there are 3 Angels remaining yes we need to lynch one today. HoD may still be the AoD but if he is the Sage we need to keep him around at all costs.
If he is AoD and Wiggles, RoL or Syllo was Sage we're pretty much fucked anyways.
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Quote Fail.
"I actually think Dirkzor is an angel, and Layabout is a demon. No idea about bluelightz. Do you agree that we need to lynch an angel today? Also, following that, do you think sage should claim today?"
Should be inside your quote.
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On January 16 2012 23:27 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote:On January 16 2012 20:49 Refallen wrote:
Jackal where are you? Just got to work and getting caught up. Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am" Eh? Lay haven't voted yet... do you mean it the other way around?
Wow did I read that wrong. Ya. Teach me to post before coffee takes effect. I retract my statement regarding Layabout.
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On January 17 2012 00:52 Refallen wrote:
Uh, sorry, yes I got mixed up with sage and seer again. What I'm trying to say is, do you agree, Jackal, that the seer should claim if he's still alive?
And Grack, that's a good point. Syllo wouldn't have had a chance to peek.
So we have a real high chance of not having any DT peeks this game, except for HoD's Grack not demon peek. What a retarded situation.
Right, I'm going to bed. I'll like to hear thoughts on lynching Grackaroni.
We apparently no longer have our channeler so if the Seer does claim he will die. So unless the Seer has positively identified an Angel I think it's best for him to keep his mouth shut ftm.
I also think Grack is a bad lynch.
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On January 17 2012 04:36 layabout wrote:
ARE ANY OF YOU FUCKERS THERE?
I'm at work. I get in here when I can. And if you notice I already went back on the comment you quoted. I read the vote wrong.
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On January 17 2012 05:02 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 23:52 Jackal58 wrote:On January 10 2012 23:11 Tyrran wrote:On January 10 2012 21:56 Cwave wrote:
Why i ask is because i find it a given you post protown stuff as ... town.
To articulate it and stress it that you are gonna be pro-town leads me to believe you are forcing yourself to do pro-town stuff. You should read Steamship Mafia Day 1. If townies only posted pro-town stuff, this game would be so much easier. On January 10 2012 22:10 syllogism wrote:Tyrran: is this the reason you find jackal scummy? Jackal 58 for being overly agressive on pamar with no real case behind it, and Palmar because i found your case solid. Now that Palmar flipped demon, you still think he is a good lynch today? Sorry, there is no way you can honestly believe that. What I did not like on Jackal filter is that he hardly gave any reasoning for his hyper agression. He tunnelled on palmar, and did not even had the sligthtest reaction when MrWiggle made a solid case on Palmar. This is wy he looks scummy to me. It was better towards the end of day 2, and Palmar flipped scum, so i was about to let go on him, but then he does exactly the same thing on dirkzor day 2. Should you ask me if we should lynch him now, I'd answer no. Both Cwave and risk are more scummy. Yet I want to keep an eye on him. You'll get used to me. Palmar was obv scum. Nothing Wiggles said either expanded nor contradicted my belief that Palmar was scum. Dirkzor is also scum. It's also obvious to me why. I explained part of it day 1. His lack of interest or caring if he lynches town or scum that is evident from one of his only posts during this day cycle merely reinforces my beliefs. I assume you guys read the same drivel from the same people I do. I lack the ability and desire to write a thesis on everybody I see as scummy. I point it out and assume you guys are smart enough to see it too with out me interjecting 300 lines of rhetoric and hyperbola. Jackal, given what you have read so far, do you think that assuming people in this thread can be relied upon to figure out what is scummy benefits town at all? could you please make an effort to help people make the correct lynch today?
After 2 non flips I'm not sure of anything anymore. What I feel strongest about is that Blazinghand, Refallen and Grack are town. I know I am and I'm hoping HoD is. As I said before if he is in reality the AoD we're pretty screwed. That leaves Bluelightz, Dirkzor, Tyrran, Zephirdd and you as scum combinations. Entirely possible one of you is town as well. I don't know what RoL, Wiggles or Syllo were. Syllo I thought was town. RoL and Wiggles could be anything. All we know with with 100% certainty is Palmar was a demon. Of those 5 I have listed I still see Dirkzor as a demon and Bluelightz as a probable angel. Refallen I believe thinks it's the opposite. If HoD is indeed town he makes an excellent case on you. However if he's right you're a demon. If you are a Demon then it becomes a question of balance. If both scum teams are at 2 v 2 I think the Demon team has the advantage. If it is 3 v 2 Angels then yes an Angel needs to be lynched today. Finding scum in a game where half the flips are revealed is difficult. Trying to determine which faction those you think are scum belongs to is even harder. If I had a gun to my head and had to pick a player to lynch today it would be Bluelightz. Because I think he is an Angel and we have yet to see an Angel flip.
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BH if you are a demon your entire communication procedure is incredibly brilliant. What I mean by that is it doesn't tell us anymore than a cheap seance parlor trick.
Yes I believe you to be town. But I'm wrong just as often on my town reads as I am on my scum reads.
Pardon me but my skeptic is coming out.
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On January 17 2012 07:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok, fair enough. Do you believe there is a way to communicate the the demons via vote movement that can benefit us today? If so, what is that? I'll do that instead.
If you don't think this can help us find angels, why?
Yes I think if you were confirmed townie this play would be brilliant in rooting out angels. Unfortunately the only confirmed player in the game so far is Palmar. And he's not going to help us unless somebody has a Ouija board.
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On January 17 2012 08:24 Refallen wrote:
^^ This. With the unknown flips we cannot be 100% certain who has flipped what, so the best we can do is to make reasonable assumptions.
HoD's sage claim has to stand because obviously, no one has counterclaimed it. And wiggles was channeled by virtue of te fact that RoL fake-claimed channeler because there was no way RoL was town. No way. So RoL is an angel, either acolyte or observer, because he knew that channeler was dead and he could try fake-claiming that role.
Jackal, you said you were confused by the flips. Does the above sound logical to you? If so, does your lynch target still stay as bluelightz?
I'm not confused. I'm just lacking info. I have considered the possibilities that RoL was Angel. If he was everybodies assertion that we need to lynch an Angel is false. If Angels and Demons are at 2 each Demons have the upper hand due to their control of the lynch. If RoL was Channeler and Angels still have 3 members then yes an Angel lynch is imperative. They control KP.
There is also a possibility that RoL was a demon. That would explain his flip concealment. In 2 of those 3 scenarios we are better off lynching an Angel. I believe Bluelightz to be an Angel. So looking at it from what is our greatest chance of success at this point in the game yes I still want to lynch Bluelightz.
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On January 17 2012 23:57 layabout wrote:
bluelightz please take a stance on something
He can't. It's much to late for him to do so. He doesn't like my filter. Don't really care. His filter is a journal noting when he's going to bed and when he awakes.
Day 1 - He doesn't want to lynch lurkers/Inactives.
Day 1 - He wants to lynch an inactive.
Day 1 - He doesn't like the meta case on Palmar.
Day 1 - He votes for Palmar.
And he's been going to bed and getting up since then. But hey he's been really good about informing us about it.
Now when asked to make a stance he does about the only thing he can do. OMGUS.
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On January 18 2012 01:04 layabout wrote:
what do you think of the way in which refallen has presented information to the thread today?
I think he's closed his mind to a multitude of possibilities. That said I am hoping the scenario of RoL - Angel, HoD - Sage is the way events actually are. That is the premise I am basing my actions today on. It's called "hope".
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