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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 10 2012 14:52 GMT
#1200
On January 10 2012 23:11 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:56 Cwave wrote:
Why i ask is because i find it a given you post protown stuff as ... town.
To articulate it and stress it that you are gonna be pro-town leads me to believe you are forcing yourself to do pro-town stuff.


You should read Steamship Mafia Day 1. If townies only posted pro-town stuff, this game would be so much easier.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:10 syllogism wrote:
Tyrran: is this the reason you find jackal scummy?

Jackal 58 for being overly agressive on pamar with no real case behind it, and Palmar because i found your case solid.

Now that Palmar flipped demon, you still think he is a good lynch today? Sorry, there is no way you can honestly believe that.


What I did not like on Jackal filter is that he hardly gave any reasoning for his hyper agression. He tunnelled on palmar, and did not even had the sligthtest reaction when MrWiggle made a solid case on Palmar. This is wy he looks scummy to me. It was better towards the end of day 2, and Palmar flipped scum, so i was about to let go on him, but then he does exactly the same thing on dirkzor day 2.

Should you ask me if we should lynch him now, I'd answer no. Both Cwave and risk are more scummy. Yet I want to keep an eye on him.

You'll get used to me. Palmar was obv scum. Nothing Wiggles said either expanded nor contradicted my belief that Palmar was scum. Dirkzor is also scum. It's also obvious to me why. I explained part of it day 1. His lack of interest or caring if he lynches town or scum that is evident from one of his only posts during this day cycle merely reinforces my beliefs. I assume you guys read the same drivel from the same people I do. I lack the ability and desire to write a thesis on everybody I see as scummy. I point it out and assume you guys are smart enough to see it too with out me interjecting 300 lines of rhetoric and hyperbola.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 10 2012 23:16 GMT
#1252
On January 11 2012 08:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
RoL, who do you want to lynch, why?

I'd assume risk.nuke since his vote is on him.

I'm leaving my vote on diz for the moment because he is apparently not going to get hammered anytime soon. Also because he's scum. We have 5 scum left. More than enough to kill either risk or RoL atm. As that hasn't happened yet it's possible we have 1 from each team hanging there. I'm leaving for the evening so please refrain from doing anything stupid for the next couple of hours. Like a massive vote switch. Unless you all want to switch to diz cause like he is scum and all.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 11 2012 14:45 GMT
#1320
On January 11 2012 23:06 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 21:30 Cwave wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Vote count for the Day 2 Lynch.

With 16 alive, 9 votes are required to lynch.

Current votes:
risk.nuke (7): Bluelightz, Refallen, -Bluelightz, syllogism, Bluelightz, Zephirdd, RebirthOfLeGenD, Grackaroni, Blazinghand
RebirthOfLeGenD (2): Blazinghand, Mr. Wiggles, Zephirdd, Spaackle, Cwave, -Zephirdd, -Spaackle, -Blazinghand
Tyrran (1): HarbingerOfDoom
Dirkzor (1): Jackal58
Cwave (0): Dirkzor, -Dirkzor

The Day 2 deadline is at January 12 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 12:44:13 from now.)Last edit: 2012-01-11 21:15:47


No votes as of yet from
Dirkzor
layabout
Tyrran


Layabout made it clear he wants to vote on Risk, how about Dirkzor/Tyrran?
Who is your best lynch target as of today?


You stopped reading the thread? Maybe go re-read...

Seems like i forgot to vote when i last posted.

##Vote tyrran

I will come back before deadline and hammer Risk if needed but I still feel that Tyrran is a better lynch.

You are best lynch. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Let's see if there is a reason for voting for somebody nobody else is interested in voting today.
##Vote: risk.nuke.

If you flip town risk I am sorry.
And now I await everybody telling me how scummy I am for hammering you.

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#1322
Dammit. Sorry risk. Sorry to everybody.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 11 2012 15:43 GMT
#1337
On January 12 2012 00:21 syllogism wrote:
You are one of the people who don't make sense. Palmar flipped demon.

I think it's very likely that at least some of the people who were reluctant to touch risk lynch are scum. There was nothing redeeming about his play and it looked almost completely different than in every other game he has played. Even worse, the reasons these people gave for not wanting to lynch him were wholly inadequate.

I only hammered because of Drikzor's reluctance to do so. I assumed he was protecting a scum buddy. His last post before the flip stunk. If risk had flipped scum that fact would have simply bolstered my belief that Drikzor is scum. Risk flipping town does not diminish my belief any though.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 11 2012 17:08 GMT
#1348
On January 12 2012 01:25 syllogism wrote:
Because he was going to be lynched anyway and it appears that the night is accordingly longer? Considering that I personally would have liked to hammer yesterday, I wouldn't read too much into that. Jackal's tone however seems off though. Specifically his random apology. Did he apologize to erandorr yesterday? No. Does he ever apologize when lynching someone? I doubt it.

Ya I believe I have apologized for being impulsive before. And wrong. And no I didn't apologize to Erandorr because Erandorr was max derp. If it makes you feel better next time I vote for somebody I'll post DIE MOTHERFUCKER along with it.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 11 2012 17:10 GMT
#1349
On January 12 2012 01:39 syllogism wrote:
Polite and lurking jackal is far more likely to be scum jackal. His play so far has constituted of picking a target to tunnel and then basically doing nothing else and posting quite little. I wouldn't even consider it out of the question that he is a demon because Jackal tunnelling someone usually won't get the target lynched and people expect him to tunnel palmar every game.

Mafia are much more likely to post something unnatural when hammering due to their inherent guilt

You and Diz are the remaining demons Syllo. RoL is most likely an angel. With HoD and somebody else.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#1351
On January 12 2012 02:10 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 02:08 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 12 2012 01:25 syllogism wrote:
Because he was going to be lynched anyway and it appears that the night is accordingly longer? Considering that I personally would have liked to hammer yesterday, I wouldn't read too much into that. Jackal's tone however seems off though. Specifically his random apology. Did he apologize to erandorr yesterday? No. Does he ever apologize when lynching someone? I doubt it.

Ya I believe I have apologized for being impulsive before. And wrong. And no I didn't apologize to Erandorr because Erandorr was max derp. If it makes you feel better next time I vote for somebody I'll post DIE MOTHERFUCKER along with it.

Why did risk.nuke deserve an apology from you?

For my impulsiveness. I had no intentions of voting for him until I saw Diz's post voting for Tyrran.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2012 00:01 GMT
#1378
My thoughts on risk.

On January 11 2012 08:16 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 08:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
RoL, who do you want to lynch, why?

I'd assume risk.nuke since his vote is on him.

I'm leaving my vote on diz for the moment because he is apparently not going to get hammered anytime soon. Also because he's scum. We have 5 scum left. More than enough to kill either risk or RoL atm. As that hasn't happened yet it's possible we have 1 from each team hanging there. I'm leaving for the evening so please refrain from doing anything stupid for the next couple of hours. Like a massive vote switch. Unless you all want to switch to diz cause like he is scum and all.


And then I see this:
On January 11 2012 23:06 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 21:30 Cwave wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Vote count for the Day 2 Lynch.

With 16 alive, 9 votes are required to lynch.

Current votes:
risk.nuke (7): Bluelightz, Refallen, -Bluelightz, syllogism, Bluelightz, Zephirdd, RebirthOfLeGenD, Grackaroni, Blazinghand
RebirthOfLeGenD (2): Blazinghand, Mr. Wiggles, Zephirdd, Spaackle, Cwave, -Zephirdd, -Spaackle, -Blazinghand
Tyrran (1): HarbingerOfDoom
Dirkzor (1): Jackal58
Cwave (0): Dirkzor, -Dirkzor

The Day 2 deadline is at January 12 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 12:44:13 from now.)Last edit: 2012-01-11 21:15:47


No votes as of yet from
Dirkzor
layabout
Tyrran


Layabout made it clear he wants to vote on Risk, how about Dirkzor/Tyrran?
Who is your best lynch target as of today?


You stopped reading the thread? Maybe go re-read...

Seems like i forgot to vote when i last posted.

##Vote tyrran

I will come back before deadline and hammer Risk if needed but I still feel that Tyrran is a better lynch.


Dirkzor is scum. He didn't want to pull the trigger so I did. I was hoping he didn't do it because risk was his scum buddy.

And pardon me for saying sorry. I'm not the douchebag type that calls others morons and assholes and idiots that so many here have become. But if you feel that's necessary to prove I'm town pull your heads out of your collective asses and quit being morons you freaking idiots. Happy?

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2012 00:19 GMT
#1380
On January 12 2012 09:07 layabout wrote:
Jackal, perhaps if we knew why you think Dirkzor is scum it would allow us to evaluate the decision to lynch a risk based upon the fact that dirkzor was reluctant to end the day early to kill him and that you hoped they were scum together.

Do you read the thread?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13063175
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#1382
Nobody else thought Palmar was scum either.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2012 01:38 GMT
#1384
Mr Wiggles and I may have been the only ones to vote for him. I don't care for this Z Bot thing. It may make it easy to count votes for the host but it plays hell in trying to follow voting history.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 01:21 GMT
#1520
On January 13 2012 10:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 10:11 syllogism wrote:
Someone is exceptionally stupid


Could someone please enlighten me about this?

Syllo was sent to Purgatory and is pissed?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 01:31 GMT
#1522
On January 13 2012 10:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Wait why does it say that it is dusk? has day not begun yet??

What?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 02:01 GMT
#1525
On January 13 2012 10:56 Refallen wrote:
Why would you send syllo to purgatory again? ...

Somebody is firmly convinced Syllo is town and is protecting them or somebody firmly believes Syllo is scum and is role blocking them.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 02:09 GMT
#1527
Night 1 we had no AoD kill. We had HoD and Syllo in purgatory. Last night we did have an AoD kill with Syllo in purgatory but not HoD. Syllo is not AoD. Night 1 either AoD hit Syllo or HoD is AoD.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 02:38 GMT
#1534
On January 13 2012 11:21 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 11:16 Refallen wrote:
On January 13 2012 11:10 Zephirdd wrote:
On January 13 2012 11:04 Refallen wrote:
That's retarded. After syllo posted his "I want to die", channeled should have taken the hint and roleblocked harbringer instead.


Or maybe he had the same logic as me? At least this now confirms syllo as town.

MrWiggles was town as well; He couldn't possibly be Demon(see his Palmar case). We just won't know if he was a blue or not.

TBH that was a poor decision by the AoD, unless he had actually found an Angel and was ready to push him. His last actions were attacking RoL. Apply Occam's Razor(The correct solution is usually the simplest one),

##Vote RoL


No, AoD was almost never targeting syllo to begin with. It would have been much better to banish harbringer and see if he was the AoD or not.

And I agree that RoL is the prime suspect for lynch today. Dunno why angels decided to get rid of wiggles though.


Mb read my previous post? What if there was no AoD kill? Would it be more likely that syllo was the AoD or that he had been shot?

Don't you agree that syllo is a player strong enough to be able to look as town as he is while being scum, especially on a double scum game?

Doesn't matter though; syllo is town and that's what there is to it.

Syllo is not the AoD. That fact (and that is now a fact) does not make him guaranteed town.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 15:09 GMT
#1546
On January 13 2012 21:27 Bluelightz wrote:
I'm back guys but I'm leaving in a sec.

Anyway, I'm gonna post a analysis of some post's by Grack and Spaackle



On January 13 2012 21:28 Bluelightz wrote:
When I get back

This is twice. You don't get a 3rd.

##Vote: Bluelightz
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 16:21 GMT
#1568
On January 14 2012 00:18 syllogism wrote:
Jackal RoL made promises too and didn't keep them. Are you not up to lynching him? What about dirkzor, your previous random vote you never bothered to push or justify? If you've to choose between Tyrran and RoL today, which one will you be voting?

I still think Dirkzor is scum. But nobody else wants to agree with me. I thought you may be scum as well until you got sent to Purgatory again and the AoD appeared. You may still be a demon but I'm not leaning that way atm. RoL has made an appearance other than his stupid plan. But it's basically appearing to be a great big OMGUS. I'd like to see what else he has to say about others today. Tyrran I think is just a derpy townie. I haven't played with him before so I'm not sure what to expect from him. Between the 2 I'd lynch RoL first but I think Dirkzor, Bluelights, or HoD are all better options. And I did push and justify my vote on Dirkzor. It wasn't 10,000 words so you ignored it.
I think the only reason Bluelights came back was because I put my vote on him. He's scum lynch him.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2012 16:33 GMT
#1570
On January 14 2012 01:23 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 01:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:05 syllogism wrote:
That's not a mistake. I did not say you necessarily need experience, I was talking about probabilities.

WBG posts a lot like him as town and is a bit more subdued as scum.

This isn't a game of the coin flipping heads, people are different and how they play will be different. WBG is actually a good example of exactly what I was talking about.

Yes it is unless you can show that the kind of behaviour you you describe is much more likely to make someone mafia rather than an aggressive townie and even then you have to adjust based on what you would expect on newer mafia players in general.

I agree. There are some people here that can pull off aggressive scum play but without any prior knowledge of the way Blazing plays I couldn't call him scum from his attitude. I actually see him as one of the towniest here. Doesn't mean I agree with him on everything but if he's scum he has big kahunas.
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