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bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 03 2012 05:49 GMT

#1165

uh oh, lol mafia meta games. I was roleblocked. HUR DURR LETS NO LYNCH

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 03 2012 14:58 GMT

#1169

On January 03 2012 15:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Bum I didn't vote because I had no idea wtf was going on. I hadn't read the thread at all so for all I knew L could have been town. I was subbed in like 4 hours before the lynch ended and up until that point I hadn't opened the thread since I asked to be taken out of them game.

If you think that my lack of vote alone makes me scum then you need to broaden your sights a bit. Right now in your scenario, I'm scum and I claim to have shot syllo... to what end? If I'm scum then I already used my shot on prp, but I can't force syllo to die. My only option is to claim RB but wait, I already rb'd sheth. If I had called my shot after the day post and saw syllo had died it would have made a lot more sense because now I have syllo's death to back me up. But I claimed before the deadline. If I'm scum then how do I know that syllo will die, and furthermore, what is my backup if I already rb'd sheth. If syllo doesn't die then I'm forced to claim rb, but then sheth cc's me. Even if I get a mislynch on sheth, when he flips green I've still outed myself.

Do you see where the problem is Bum?

No, chezinu not being present during a powerful lynch, which ended up with mafia giving a sigh and not fighting a lynch of one of their own, ergo they probably did not have all the manpower they wanted. It's not you with-holding your vote that makes you scum, it's that there was a missing vote and we still lynched scum. Unless RoL is scum, mafia was not planning for a bus.

If both you and syllo were alive, and you counter-claimed sheth's RB, I think you would be in a pretty good position. It's a tad risky if people connect the dots, but sheth's lynch proved he had a much larger fanclub of people who wanted to lynch him. This makes sense to why you are scum. The only thing that stops me from reaching that conclusion is the situation in which you died and syllo lived. That would make syllo look awful. I can't figure out if it would be worth it, or if you are willing to take that risk, or just ignored that outcome as an impossibility for whatever reason. That claim could have been a better explained, but it also came at exactly enough time for me to think you'd be townier then most individuals. RoL and kita don't happen to be those 'most inidividuals'.

On January 03 2012 16:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##Vote Bumatlarge

We do no-lynch, right?

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 03 2012 15:06 GMT

#1171

Oh, if both you and syllo were alive and scum, and you managed a mislynch on sheth, you would win. 3-2 after night with no vig shots then 2-2, since now it's confirmed to me that there is still a roleblocker.

On December 23 2011 17:25 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys,

I was role blocked last night. This game is doomed. I won't be posting anymore anytime soon.

Oh I agreed with L on his position that this game is broken.

This is dumb, this game is dumb. About the seventh time I've read chezinu's filter. FUCK HELL CHEZINU

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 04 2012 04:06 GMT

#1180

Oh meapak, that's heart warming. Shame I'm the only one with a shot left, and mafia has a roleblocker.

KITAMAN, YOU SHALL BE PURGED. NO MERE ROLEBLOCK CAN STOP MY WRATH.

And guys, no lynch right? I mean, this might just a test in order to see if scum can increase his chances, but it might be that he cannot kill anyone? Then we get two lynches? I mean it's really stretching, but there is no reason not to wait. Ver is a cruel dude sometimes, but he isn't bill murray (Cue 2nd no-lynch gives mafia 2 KP). We still have a lot of cycles to go through. Meh, maybe to give scum time to figure out what he isn't doing

Can we opt to end the day early?

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 04 2012 05:53 GMT

#1183

On January 04 2012 13:25 kitaman27 wrote:
It wouldn't hurt. Maybe mafia has a limited number of shots on their roleblocker or something -_-

I'd still like to hear the cases promised by RoL and Meapak before we opt to end things early. If you couldn't no-lynch, are you still thinking Meapak bum?

By a hair, yes. But I'm feeling sway-able -_-

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 05 2012 03:54 GMT

#1191

Well, is it really lylo? I'm not voting tonight, and I keep finding myself with less and less time to devote to this game. Also Kita, you do have to admit, I was behind the L lynch before you really made it known you thought he was mafia. God damn Viscera Kamikaze'd me as scum because I said I took the credit for saying evantrees or sheth or someone was scum. No mouthing off. Also, I'd actually like a more commited bad-manner post from kita and RoL. I'd accept my hit on you for the batman comment, but Ver might have lesser standards. And RoL, even if you think I'm most likely scum for the reasons you plan on giving, If you could just do the same thing as meapak and kita? On the off chance that mafia can't hit and roleblock at the same time.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 05 2012 19:39 GMT

#1200

On January 06 2012 02:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I obviously knew that kita was going to disagree with my analysis of him, but I'd like to hear what Bum and RoL think. Bum do you still think I'm most likely to be scum? If so, what problems do you have with me that you don't have with kita. Same with RoL, what is wrong with my kita analysis that makes bum a better lynch?

I've been reading the thread again and I'm feeling very confident that kita is scum at this point.

No, you are not my top candidate for scum, and if RoL would just set off my role condition I would feel a lot better about him.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 03:23 GMT

#1203

On January 06 2012 08:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

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I am town, no you fucking fuck.

I think you read that the wrong way. I was implying that I think kitaman is the most likely scum. When meapak brought up the whole L thing, I read that day over again, and it doesn't appear as it did then that kita was breaching new ground here. While I was the only one to actually vote L, multiple townies showed interest in actually lynching L (prphlz, but is attention was on RoL, and sheth, who up until last lynch I thought he was scum). Kita had about an hour to realize that L had 3 serious townie votes behind him, while RoL had a whopping 2 townies on him while the other 2 were scum. It seems much more possible to Kita as scum that positioning himself for L getting lynched is extremely profitably at this point. Kita selling out L is now much easier to hear with alot of flipped fellows on the field.

We need to come to a decision some time, the worst I can be is wrong! Hopefully Mafia decides to shoot someone tonight. Maybe I might get roleblocked!

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 03:40 GMT

#1206

Well you sure didnt waste anytime :D

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 06:04 GMT

#1217

Sorry, Kita. I actually shot at RoL last night, because if he was scum I think he might have not roleblocked me. Anyway, I don't think he can be a roleblocker and still have pulled off that BC shot without being a scumvig.

Since meapak is dead it makes kita's "hit" on syllo look pretty bad.
##Vote: Kitaman27
I haven't been keeping track of how many scum I've killed kita, and neither has RoL.

Basically if RoL is mafia, this is gonna be Insane Mafia 2 all over again. Oh well. Commence hammer Ver.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 06:22 GMT

#1222

Well now holy fucking shit kita. Not every scum could pull that out of their ass....

damn let me think.

##Unvote

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 06:43 GMT

#1226

On January 06 2012 15:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

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This just made my life easier. Why did you hit me lol?

I was curious to see if you as scum would risk not roleblocking me after saying kita was scum. I have also tried to hit chezinu for being bad mannered about ditching the game, but meapak had subbed in and Ver didn't accept it.

I'm kinda tired, and I don't think I can read this thread again. So whatever.

Basically, this is the major hiccup in RoL being scum.

GGQ was choked with his own necktie.
BloodyC0bbler had a tie stuffed down his throat.
chaoser had his tie tied to the back of a car and was run through town.
Mr. Wiggles was shot in the face.
Foolishness died from lack of sleep while hallucinating French poetry.
wherebugsgo was defenestrated.

prphlz summed it up pretty well.

On December 28 2011 15:49 prplhz wrote:
Today's hits were:
wherebugsgo by me (this is the first time I shoot scum so bear with me if I am being a little giddy)

If scum had three hits yesterday they have around that today too, I seriously doubt that they killed 5 people though, 4 scum can't kill 5 people which means that somebody on this list was shot by town. I'm going to guess that scum shot 3 or maybe 4 people people if they have any additional KP.
Foolishness I conjecture was shot by scum because of what he did to wherebugsgo.
chaoser was pretty much confirmed town after having killed Palmar so scum shot him too.

This leaves three people unaccounted for.
BloodyC0bbler was being very inactive and a lot of people found him suspicious so I doubt that he was shot by scum.

This leaves just GGQ or Mr. Wiggles as the last scum hits. I had town reads on both of these guys so I haven't a clue. Maybe some more vigs will claim today or whatever, maybe mafia actually just have this much KP.

He also accuses RoL in that same post, but I'm interested in the hits. Mafia would have to have some real manpower to pull off these hits AND BC. RoL was claiming the BC hit forever. I know for a fact the last mafia is a roleblocker. Was RoL's positioning really such that they would have their roleblocker claim the hit that another mafia made? It doesn't fit right with me.

Though I'm still boggling over the GM > BC, then Fool > L. Both survived. The fuck. No one has come up with a better explanation then roleblocks.

RoL has been a tricky bastard. I'm just going to change my mind and run with this kita. Kita has been no-nonsense this entire game, and more then three times have I gone "He's most assuredly town".

So I'm gonna go with my instinct rather then what the last 4 people have said, and lynch RoL. Maybe I wouldn't have if RoL wasn't all over the place. Kita has been really consistent, and with something this close, I'm going to side with the person I feel proved themself. Screw his overlap with meapak anyway, no where in my PM does it give me any information as to what happens when that happens.

Also pulling out all of that useless information helped kita. I can't really say it hasn't heavily influenced this.

Oh fucking well lol.

##Vote RebirthofLegend

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 06:45 GMT

#1227

No come on, lasts just do it tonight lol, I'm tired of this shit

Gonna become a professional tic-tac-toe player after this stuff.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 06:55 GMT

#1229

I need to sleep, so let's continue this tomorrow.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 06 2012 19:00 GMT

#1238

Ok here is the major breakdown I have for both of you. I'm skipping all the fluff and just getting down to what leads me to believe you are town and what makes me think you are scum. I want you to both refute the points that I give for you being scum, and if you see anything that I miss on the other person, say so.

Kitaman
Town:
-Very active, zero fear of posting.
-I've nearly agreed with everything he has said.
-Dat list, he's either super town, or hes mafia and he wants to win this REALLY badly
Scum
-Claiming hit after it happens, and meapak the townie has claimed it.
-Likes to take credit.
-Has kita ever considered me as scum?
-The syllo thing looks pretty solid, but it would have been much better if it was included in your list, or if you had posted that reason immediately after you shot him. It looks like you just found out that link. Are you just saying that to show how messed up the scum teams position was during day 3?
Explain your reasoning for hitting syllo. I'd like a little more then the below post.

On December 31 2011 14:25 kitaman27 wrote:

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Look through his filter. He was completely useless the entire game, never bringing up a case against a single player. Him randomly coming out and positioning himself for a mislynch at LYLO was the tipping point. I was considering shooting you, but you never set off my trigger.

RoL
Town
-I seriously doubt he wasn't the reason for BC dying. The remaining scum is a roleblocker. Seems rather convoluted.
-Day 3 seems extrordinarily bad on mafia's part if RoL is scum. They seriously couldn't bus properly at lylo? L and RoL would have thought this out better I feel.
-His reads the last few days have been all over the place, which sounds like someone I know!
Scum
-GM getting roleblocked after trying to hit RoL makes RoL look really bad, andday 3 the scum wasted no time in selling out their member in lylo. Perhaps that is WIFOM, but it seems like there was no drawbacks. L looked like he was trying to get back in the thread with this rather then just going for the win.
-My imagination. In a set-up where every townie is a vig, balancing for mafia seems like it would rely on a lot of power. Nearly any sum of powers you can throw together don't benefit RoL. I would find it very hard to believe that all scum has is a team roleblock and a list of all the ways they can be killed. I think there is more to it. One scum medic makes RoL almost certain scum for me. Scum vigis explain BC perfectly. Multiple roleblocks are probably his best out, because the GM thing looks like a false trail.

For both of you, explain why I am not scum. You both have thoroughly accepted this, and I am pretty neurotic about people assuming I'm town. One of you knows it, and the other has guessed it. RoL has looked into why I could be scum, and kita just seems like he can't argue I am scum, so he doesn't bother.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 07 2012 07:14 GMT

#1240

Meh, thanks for trying kita, but I can't in good conscience not vote you. You played a really solid game as either town or scum but I do think you are the last scum at this point over RoL.

##Unvote
##Vote: Kitaman27

I'm willing to end the day early now, Ver. Not changing my mind. That is my final answer.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 08 2012 04:18 GMT

#1244

Ver went all chezinu. Need a replacement host!

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 08 2012 05:20 GMT

#1257

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

January 08 2012 05:26 GMT

#1259

No bro, that was my awesome logic deduction. RoL as mafia would get all cute and shit and not roleblock me. I had already said I thought kita was scum. What were the chances of kita not roleblocking me?