EPTBC claiming vig seemed like the final nail in the coffin. It now seems kind of obvious that most, if not all of the players in the game have some variant on a vigilante.
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BC claiming vig seemed like the final nail in the coffin. It now seems kind of obvious that most, if not all of the players in the game have some variant on a vigilante. | ||
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On December 28 2011 18:50 syllogism wrote: Well at least one out of RoL and Chezinu is definitely mafia. I would like to hear from Chezinu first but the situation has been covered quite adequately above. Are you claiming alignment cop or something? How do you know one of us is definitely scum? | ||
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On December 29 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Things I'm pretty sure of without going in to why too much. I've just finished reading the entire thread so this is just based off of a clean full read. If one of Syllogism / L are mafia then the other is town. Chezinu was giving me a very town feeling, but hasn't posted in a long time. What are your thoughts on how everyone was killed this night, or even last night? BumatLarge if your a vig why were you so sure that LSB was lieing and voted against him? Do you think Kita is mafia? Prplhz you are the one person who is cleared town to me. After reading the problems with the first night we both came up with the same logic. That VE vig shot GM and that GM was roleblocked from killing someone. And then that the other 2 were Mafia KP. Since then, However BC shooting GM has since changed things. RoL you claim vig and that you shot Bloody Cobbler this is interesting. You also voted for Chezinu the first night. Was there a reason you didn't hop on the LSB bandwagon? And you disagreed with prplhz's theory about how night one went down. I find this interesting as well. Kitaman you are actually my one fairly good read on being scum. Just because of how you've played this game. You went after a lurker (myself) which is understandable, but after it not working (me not posting because I was just sick and busy with other things honestly) you still kept on me and didn't really go scum hunting elsewhere. You also were against some of foolishness' reasoning and have just had very scummy play overall. Your my for sure read on who is mafia and who'd I'd prefer to lynch tonight. Sylogism Bugs asked what you thought at one point during the game. You were negative towards Bumatlarge. And you and L are arguing quite a bit. I'm really not sure on you honestly. Null read. L You've had good logic. You voted for Palmar day one which I find weird. I have a null read on you as well. Other then thinking that either BOTH you and sylogism are town or 1 is town 1 is mafia I really don't have a great read. I think there is very likely no chance your both mafia. So thats where I'm at right now. Rebirth of Legend, were you hit and just lied about it earlier? I claimed vigilnate and that I killed BC, I can't be both a vig and a veteran. So sheth, what is your role? | ||
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##vote Chezinu I can do a more indepth analysis on his D1 shit if you want, but to be honest I don't see the point considering BC + RB = GM Death + me not getting hit explains it. So him lying about a RB the mafia knew wouldn't get CC'd makes sense. | ||
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On December 29 2011 12:03 prplhz wrote: @RebirthOfLeGenD Can you tell me why you shot BloodyC0bbler over Liquid`Sheth and Chezinu? A couple of reasons, namely what I highlighted earlier as suspicious. Combine that with a vigi claim on gmarshal which seemed scummy and came at the last minute. After that I also wanted to know his alignment so I can crossreference those who voted for him (and failed) vs those who voted for LSB day 1 and draw inferences. As an aside from that, let me explain a couple of things I should of realized and taken into account but had reason for disregarding. Firstly when I accused BC there was virtually no discussion, just sheeping. No case is so good to the point where the mafia wouldn't try to divert it off one of their own, on that I should of known I was aiming and missing with my lynch, but I justified that by telling myself the Christmas inactivity unilaterally affected activity so I couldn't use that tell to figure out I was on the wrong track. The second thing is BC's lack of concern with the game. The amount he didn't care should of came off as a bored townie, I rarely ever see him not try that hard, however I had to consider he could just be bored overall and can't simply attribute inactivity and meager posting to only town lazyness so I didn't feel comfortable letting him live based off that read. At the end of the day, the vigi claim (That would make me the 4th vigi) seemed really high, which was before we knew what the game set up most likely was, and that combined with the late Gmarshal claim was really really weird. Since I wanted to be able to cross reference voting lists that seemed good enough to justify the hit. | ||
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On December 29 2011 19:15 L wrote: Might have? Either you or Chez is mafia and for some reason you didn't hit him because you instead wanted to kill one of our strongest players and it 'might' have been a mistake? Is anyone else even bothering to read how bad these posts are? Lol cherry picking much? I explained my reasoning in detail, BC had literally done nothing all game and wasn't looking to begin doing anything. Tell me though, yesterday did anyone once say me or Chez is mafia? I don't even recall that being remotely on the table until BC flipped. Stop making shit up. | ||
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We do face the possibility of their being multiple roleblockers in this game though since we are all vigilantes. The only evidence to the contrary I would say is that no one apart from Chezinu has claimed being RBed which happened in the same night we could be nearly certain that Gmarshal was RBed. Two conclusions can be drawn from this. There is either 1 RBer, or the mafia are RBing + Killing people to mask their power and increase their kill efficiency, possibly in fear of some sort of methman/zombie killing role they could be aware of. Chezinu is guilty in scenario one, and I doubt scenario two would hold for this many days of no one else claiming RB unless the mafia used that strategy or we coincidentally keep killing their RB candidates. | ||
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Anyway, with that being said the rather weak showing from mafia today to win at lylo indicates something to us. The mafia don't have the sway to truly influence the town. We can infer the other members were most likely the lesser active players which I would think are Chezinu and Sheth. I will do some analysis in the morning and get back to you, but I imagine it shouldn't be too hard to peg down the last two. | ||
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On December 31 2011 11:10 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Hey, Syllogism, if I was a unroleblockable Vigilante, who would u recomend I shoot? Yourself would be nice, or meapak. | ||
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WHATJOO GUYZ THINK? I'm going to be out all night. | ||
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So I doubt Chezinu/Meapak is scum. So that leaves me with Sheth. ##Vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
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