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GMarshal
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On December 22 2011 11:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh look, GM counterclaims. How quaint. Thought you were exhausted GM? Thought you were running out of steam GM? Thought you were surely done for the night GM? I came back to see if I died. I'm feeling stupid and lazy, but something this basic is something I know. | ||
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GMarshal
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On December 22 2011 16:00 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah, that sounds good. We should have him claim right before deadline so that we have a confirmed town if he dies. Fair enough GM? That was the plan. I'll put up who I am killing 1 minute before the deadline. I'll also try to get as much analysis out there as possible between now and the end of the day. | ||
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GMarshal
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![[image loading]](http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/122/114/130232443562.gif?1305073704) My play thus far T.T So, I've sucked horribly and the fact that two of my coworkers decided not to show today really cut into my TL time. Be that as it may, a list of my reads, for reference if I misfire, and for reference if I hit. Consider it my apology for not being able to crank out a full fledged analytic post full of pictures. If I live, well then, this should be something to hold me to. Foolishness- Town. He hasn't said much (as per his usual day 1 play.) But what he has said has generally been spot on, or at least been something that Town foolishness would absolutely, 100% certainty say. This post in particular (the bit about palmar). this post too pretty much cemented in my mind that Foolishness is town. Its not blatantly obvious, but anyone reading carefully should see that foolishness is probably town. RebirthOfLegend - Lurking, possibility of scum. He talks about nothing but the setup, and never mentions any lynch candidates, being "too busy". The fact that placing placeholders and not being around is exactly what he did in TMM sets of some alarms. Not a bad shot, all things considered. wherebugsgo - hard to tell, he is being spammy and aggressive, just like every other game, rule of thumb is that if he doesn't start pushing smart cases, rather than stupid ones, then he is scum, otherwise chances are he is town. I am getting the "fearless town" vibe from him, but he had a very similar style in Pony Mafia, so I'm not going to use that as an indicator kitaman27 - I stand by what I said about him pushing sheth when, frankly, there are better things to do with his time. The fact that he pushes for me over LSB is understandable, but it also places him in the wonderful position of being able to wash his hands clean of blood. That said, reading with a clearer head, I don't see the meta difference I thought I saw earlier. Null read. Possible for him to be scum, but more data is required. syllogism- syllogism town meta = ask lots of questions and whine about inactives. syllos play this game = ask lots of questions and whine about inactives. Oh, yeah, I really, really wish he would make the effort of making a post longer than three - four lines. If we could get even two paragraphs that would be an improvement. SamuelLJackson - First man on the LSB wagon, sadly I understand why it was there all too well. As much as my subconscious would like to believe he is mafia, the fact that my lolworthy argument about hydras got something like 4 votes on him, combined with his generally town seeming behavior, I'm going to have to say he is town, at least for now. If he is scum, the weak link is 100% sandroba, while Curu will run around supporting shitty cases. Jackal58 - actually almost wrote a case against him yesterday based on him being "too nice". However he took the opportunity to tunnel LSB and frankly, I have a hard time making my suspicions against him anything more than a nebulous "well, damn it". I'm used to expecting a much more lurkerish Jackal day 1. Hell if I know at this point. Tunneling is usually a town Jackal trait, but he proved he was aware of this in Cosmic Horror, so for all I know he is taking advantage of that knowledge. Leaning more town than scum, but I highly suggest caution. If he randomly finds a bunch of incriminating breadcrumbs, then lynch him! Liquid`Sheth- Not much to go on. He panics with the LSB lynch and proposes pretty much the worst possible solution, have the two vigis shoot each other, rather than the kitaman solution, this indicates that he at least finds one of the claims believable. He is fine with a no-lynch which is by no means damming, but what worries me is how he tries to shed blame for it here. I lack sufficient data to make a real judgement on him. Leaning red based on the whole "if a no lynch does happen, its not my fault" while advocating a no lynch. L - based on the amount of effort put into his posts, and the fact that from looking at him I get a feeling of transparency, I'm willing to believe he is town. He softclaims blue here. He has no hesitation in aggressively pushing Palmar, L is known for getting in screaming matches with townies, so this is par for the course for a town L. This is a soft read though, will be more definitive when I have more to go on. Mr. Wiggles - oh, dear, flashbacks to cosmic horror again. He calls out BC on lurking, just like he called out Eii in CH, and in general seems to avoid the current issues, except for his mathematical analysis of the LSB situation. I just get a scum vibe of off him, especially his bland opening post, where he talks to death about irrelevant things. Palmar - Agressive, spammy, obnoxious. Yep, this is town Palmar right here, bullying and all. Scum Palmar is a lot more passive and just generally feels like he cares less. Add to that that L wanted to get in a yelling match with him, and given the fact that he didn't shove the easy mislynch down the town's throat when he had the opportunity to, and I think he is town. Chezinu - There is one very good reason why a clever town player (especially one that can get away with it) would try to claim traitor. To lure out the scum teams only guess at finding the traitor. That's exactly the kind of play I would expect from chez, based on its sheer level of insanity. However that said, he is also insane, and might try that as scum, for the giggles. Given how strong he is at reading people, I 100% expect that if he is the traitor he will be induced soon. I want to hear his actual reads on people, if he gives me a list of scum, chances are that if we lynch into it and Chez is scum, we hit mafia. That said, Chez is insane, I refuse to commit to a read of him, although I lean town. Please Chez, gimmie a list of people you think are scum ^_^ chaoser - Yes, he gives his thoughts on the early phases of the game and tries to put on his "town leader hat", but his attempts to lead seem to fall short. I find his case against L to be not compelling at all, and frankly his play seems generally weak compared to what I tend to expect from town chaoser. That said this is probably my most tentative read, I would love to hear his thoughts on the last half of day 1. bumatlarge - he feels like chezinu 2.0 right now, which is extremely bothersome. Bum is clearly having fun with it, but I have no idea what the hell is going on with him. Half his messages are related to chez and read like nonesense. I can't fathom his motivation, unless its really role related, or if he is scum trying some crazy play (totally possible for bum). He seems to be giving some opinions and such and his last post is a lot better. I have to go with town here, simply because it seems too ballsy for scum, and if SMG is any indication bum usually knows what to do with a blue role. BloodyC0bbler - not much to say on him. Much like me, he is excessively busy. Of the two significant posts he has, one is entirely hollow of content, but also entirely believable. His vote on LSB reads like a pressure vote which he never showed up to discuss further. No real idea until he posts more. GGQ - see BC, simply not enough data to judge. He promises to be useful and has thus far failed to deliver. Would like to see more. prplhz - seems to be genuinely active and trying. Not a whole lot to say about him other than I have a strong feeling he is town, just from the effort he is putting in. If he is scum and set his alarm at 4:30 am to be part of a lynch then he is more dedicated than 90% of people on scumteams who will often leave such things to their buddies. That and the analysis and openness with which he is posting convinces me that he is town. VisceraEyes - highly active? check. Coming up with theories that require other people to have mental issues to be close to true? check. Yeah, this is town VE alright. He might not be right half the time, but he is active and transparent as can be. Not much to say to him, other than if he thinks I claimed suicidal vigi as scum then he is downright insulting my scumplay. Oh, I guess I should announce that I'm shooting RoL. I'm not having a repeat of TMM where he gets away with being busy till the endgame. If I'm wrong then on my head be it (and by that I mean I'll be horribly dead). I know there isn't strong analysis supporting it, but I just spent 3 1/2 hours writing this post/coming up with who to shoot, and I just don't have time to flesh out a fully detailed analysis on anyone before the deadline. | ||
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GMarshal
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I love the setup though. Very volatile but very skill intensive. I would play a tweaked version, time permitting. | ||
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