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nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 07 2011 01:22 GMT
#33
/in
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 12 2011 02:44 GMT
#191
Hm so do we start off the day with a lynch?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 12 2011 04:52 GMT
#212
I guess I'll follow majority vote because its my first time play :/
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 12 2011 05:05 GMT
#215
On December 12 2011 13:59 Spaackle wrote:
@nyczbrandon Don't just follow the majority, read the posts and decide for yourself what you want to vote for. It's my first time playing too, but I'm going to make sure that the votes I make are for reasons that I have thought out. Get into the game as much as possible, because it's more fun that way! :D


Hm, true
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 12 2011 05:23 GMT
#219
Is it possible for the body guard to be a mafia?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 12 2011 22:33 GMT
#385
I think the no pardon no exceptions rule seems like a good idea early game to me, but as it gets to lower amounts of players and where the mafia may have the majority, then it could maybe work.

I will probably vote for Artocod because it seems that he explained what the thought process of a mafia may be running for election
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#395
Whose everyone going to vote for lynch? times gonna be up in about an hour
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 02:20 GMT
#405
O i thought we were voting for lynch and mayor today
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#408
On December 13 2011 11:26 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 11:20 nyczbrandon wrote:
O i thought we were voting for lynch and mayor today



We are voting for a lynch and mayor/pardoner today, but we still have 24 hours to do it in.

Daytime takes 48 hours
Nighttime takes 24 hours.

So I mafia "Day/Night cycle" actually takes 72 hours.


Hm okay i get it now ty for explaining
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 06:01 GMT
#430
How many reds are in this game btw?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 21:54 GMT
#580
:/ i am new to mafia and so i do like to write paragraphs so i usually post these one liners. I'm not that good at reading and i sometimes get home late so i try to catch up on reading pages everytime.

nyczbrandon: Large post count of one liners. Most of it asks for stuff easily found in the topic.

On December 13 2011 18:35 cascades wrote:
nyczbrandon: Large post count of one liners. Most of it asks for stuff easily found in the topic.

What stood out to me was this:
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On December 13 2011 10:55 prplhz wrote:
On December 13 2011 10:47 nyczbrandon wrote:
Whose everyone going to vote for lynch? times gonna be up in about an hour

I'm just gonna vote whoever you vote. Who are you voting?


To avoid giving them excuse of "I don't know what to talk about", topic starters have been given. For example, evantrees at least has made a bit of effort at replying. nyczbrandon has dodged his topic starter and posted something irrelevant. Maybe you would like to state your opinions on who appears townie or mafia nyczbrandon?


The reason i did not respond to it is because i probably missed it yesterday. Then later on i read a post about how the day length is actually 48 hours, which i thought was 24 hours for day and night.

At first i thought of voting for zeks because people were having scum reads from him and i thought it made sense. Then he posted a response that called out Sheth for contradicting himself. Sheth claimed that he was a new player and have not seen any mafia threads before, but zeks showed that Sheth had some knowledge of it by posting things that seem to be from a previous mafia game. Also I think I read that Sheth has been getting blue screened recently, so I'm not sure how he would of been able to read those games.

My vote may go to either Sheth or Mr.Zentor because Zentor seems to change votes a lot.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#586
I think I may of missed Sheth's post when I was typing a reply, but his explanations seem realistic and I went back and saw that the quote was not from him, but from prplhz
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 22:00 GMT
#587
On December 14 2011 06:58 MrZentor wrote:
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My vote may go to either Sheth or Mr.Zentor because Zentor seems to change votes a lot.


I haven't changed my vote a single time.


:/ I thought I read you changing your mind several times in this thread, mb if im wrong. Well it seems that you said you may change your vote from zeks after his post.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 22:10 GMT
#590
On December 14 2011 07:06 MrZentor wrote:
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:/ I thought I read you changing your mind several times in this thread, mb if im wrong. Well it seems that you said you may change your vote from zeks after his post.


After his post, it seemed less likely that he was mafia, but one post doesn't redeem a man from a day's worth of scumminess. I think that was the only time my suspicions changed, slightly. If you look at the vote thread, you will see my official vote hasn't changed.


I saw that you didn't change your official vote, but I thought you would of changed it later on after more deliberation.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 14 2011 02:57 GMT
#864
Will the role of the lynched be released shortly after?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 14 2011 03:27 GMT
#911
Zzzz, well I guess until tomorrow :/
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 14 2011 03:28 GMT
#912
Also did Nisani get modkilled for not voting?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 03:42 GMT
#1256
Does 2 shot-medic mean that player targeted can survive being shot twice, or does it mean he can protect 2 targets
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 04:12 GMT
#1261
The surgeon general seems like it could be the less important role. Seeing as how all it does is assign a limited medic ability, voting Arc for secretary defense seems like the better idea.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 04:24 GMT
#1264
On December 15 2011 13:18 bumatlarge wrote:
I'll apply for surgeon general. There is no reason to give this to scum, so we can assure ourselves at least one town medic with me in charge. I think there is some risk here applying for the position, since the secretary is a dangerous role for scumt o get into.


hm wait who are you
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 23:37 GMT
#1391
On December 16 2011 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Going over the filters, I've coded things by how I perceive them…black for null, red for scummy and green for townie. If I'm mistaken (like, if something is really null that I've called scummy), let me know…workin' on my GAME bro!

MarserBlood
Opening post doesn't say much. Basically says "I don't know who to elect or lynch"
Decides who to elect, not sure who to lynch.
Zeks isolation analysis. Cites that he chose Zeks because he was "one of the suspicious persons," but finds his contributions satisfactory and chooses to vote MrZentor because of "a scummy post" he made, and lack of "obvious scum" to vote. Also states aversion to lynching lurkers for obvious reasons (no info, probably town, etc.)
Here and here he states suspicion that Mafia was behind the removal of Palmogism from the electoral running. Also "congratulates the doc" in dismaying over the loss of a blue. But taken with wanting to talk about something at night, I still get a null read from these posts.
Here I can't tell if he's trying to appear pro-town or trying to maintain a productive atmosphere in town, so again…null.
Soft-defends Radfield from an attack by risk.nuke.

Verdict: Null leaning Town.

nyczbrandon
Notes his inexperience. You only get one freebie guy.
Short response to Spaackle saying he should think for himself.
Uh oh… another appeal to his newbishness… He also comments on Zeks, saying he was suspicious before, but because he called out Sheth for a perceived contradiction….what? He's not suspicious anymore? He doesn't say. But he does say that he'll vote for MrZentor or Sheth. Sheth I assume for the 'contradiction', and Zentor because he "seems to change votes a lot." I don't know, it seems to me like a raw-newbie wouldn't consider indecision as a scum-tell. Possibly help from outside sources? His scum-buddies? I DON'T KNOW BRO!
Here is something interesting. A raw-newbie asking about a modkill for not voting. I mean, okay, it's a valid question from anyone who read the OP…but this seems to indicate that he did NOT read the OP. Curiouser and curiouser.

Verdict: Newb-Scum Lean


The reason i didn't vote for Sheth or Zentor because seemed like majority of people were bandwagoning Spaackle so I did as well. It was like last minute so I wasn't sure what to do. Also I responded to Zentor when he asked me why I said he was changing his votes a lot. I thought I saw him doing this and apoligized to him for wrongfully doubting him.

The reason I asked for modkill, because I think I remember Sheth posting that Nisani was the only person to not have voted for lynch.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 23:41 GMT
#1394
On December 16 2011 08:39 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:37 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Going over the filters, I've coded things by how I perceive them…black for null, red for scummy and green for townie. If I'm mistaken (like, if something is really null that I've called scummy), let me know…workin' on my GAME bro!

MarserBlood
Opening post doesn't say much. Basically says "I don't know who to elect or lynch"
Decides who to elect, not sure who to lynch.
Zeks isolation analysis. Cites that he chose Zeks because he was "one of the suspicious persons," but finds his contributions satisfactory and chooses to vote MrZentor because of "a scummy post" he made, and lack of "obvious scum" to vote. Also states aversion to lynching lurkers for obvious reasons (no info, probably town, etc.)
Here and here he states suspicion that Mafia was behind the removal of Palmogism from the electoral running. Also "congratulates the doc" in dismaying over the loss of a blue. But taken with wanting to talk about something at night, I still get a null read from these posts.
Here I can't tell if he's trying to appear pro-town or trying to maintain a productive atmosphere in town, so again…null.
Soft-defends Radfield from an attack by risk.nuke.

Verdict: Null leaning Town.

nyczbrandon
Notes his inexperience. You only get one freebie guy.
Short response to Spaackle saying he should think for himself.
Uh oh… another appeal to his newbishness… He also comments on Zeks, saying he was suspicious before, but because he called out Sheth for a perceived contradiction….what? He's not suspicious anymore? He doesn't say. But he does say that he'll vote for MrZentor or Sheth. Sheth I assume for the 'contradiction', and Zentor because he "seems to change votes a lot." I don't know, it seems to me like a raw-newbie wouldn't consider indecision as a scum-tell. Possibly help from outside sources? His scum-buddies? I DON'T KNOW BRO!
Here is something interesting. A raw-newbie asking about a modkill for not voting. I mean, okay, it's a valid question from anyone who read the OP…but this seems to indicate that he did NOT read the OP. Curiouser and curiouser.

Verdict: Newb-Scum Lean


The reason i didn't vote for Sheth or Zentor because seemed like majority of people were bandwagoning Spaackle so I did as well. It was like last minute so I wasn't sure what to do. Also I responded to Zentor when he asked me why I said he was changing his votes a lot. I thought I saw him doing this and apoligized to him for wrongfully doubting him.

The reason I asked for modkill, because I think I remember Sheth posting that Nisani was the only person to not have voted for lynch.


Amazing when you come out of the woodwork as soon as you're accused.


:/ I like to lurk. I also just came back recently and I saw a post with my name in it so I decide to respond to it.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 23:44 GMT
#1398
On December 16 2011 08:43 GiygaS wrote:
Risk's Steamship Filter.

In our game, people could describe Risk as:
- Chaotic
- Aggressive
- Accusations without evidence
- Angry/A bit rude (No offense)

In Steamship (Vanilla Townie):
- Very well thought-out posts
- Clear
- Basically all of his accusations have evidence.
- Polite, explains things for people clearly when needed.

Does anyone else see these differences?


He did say that he was going to try and change styles this time.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 23:46 GMT
#1400
On December 16 2011 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Although it occurs to me that whatever you find will likely be argued to be useless as he's claimed in-thread that he's "changing his playstyle up" this game, essentially rendering any meta research done pretty null.

But I'm totally interested in what you find mang, this was literally next on my to-do list.


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On December 16 2011 08:44 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 08:43 GiygaS wrote:
Risk's Steamship Filter.

In our game, people could describe Risk as:
- Chaotic
- Aggressive
- Accusations without evidence
- Angry/A bit rude (No offense)

In Steamship (Vanilla Townie):
- Very well thought-out posts
- Clear
- Basically all of his accusations have evidence.
- Polite, explains things for people clearly when needed.

Does anyone else see these differences?


He did say that he was going to try and change styles this time.


Amazing.


What's so amazing about it? I remember reading your post so I posted this. Did u want me to quote you
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 23:53 GMT
#1403
Meh, was just trying to show GiyaGs something because he may of missed it when he was comparing filters. I'll try to go scum hunting but I know if i will find anything
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 00:09 GMT
#1413
cascades seems more scummy to me.
Comprissent didn't post anything that would incriminate him. I saw that people were suspicous of him because of late voting. But, that is probably from the last minute bandwagoning as most of the people here have done. Though he has not posted his lynch targets yet.
cascades seemed to be also questioning Arctocod's town. It is apparent to many that Arctocod was forced out of running, and think that it may be on mafia side. He also posted that he hopes that mafia would kill all the vets. He said it was a joke or something but i dont know. Seems he may bare a grudge against hydras/vets
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 00:19 GMT
#1421
Refallen looks more suspicous of the two, but both havent posted much I can use. I think they might both be town.
Refallen has posted that he though that ProfB might be scum for random lynch, but later on posted that he did not look like it much anymore.
TotallyNotTwoPeople hasn't done much except going hard on Mr.Zentor for some reason.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 01:25 GMT
#1447
On December 16 2011 09:35 Jitsu wrote:
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On December 16 2011 09:19 nyczbrandon wrote:
Refallen looks more suspicous of the two, but both havent posted much I can use. I think they might both be town.
Refallen has posted that he though that ProfB might be scum for random lynch, but later on posted that he did not look like it much anymore.
TotallyNotTwoPeople hasn't done much except going hard on Mr.Zentor for some reason.


What the hell kind of analysis is this? Your either not trying, or really like lurking.


I was being rushed to leave because my parents arrived and I had to go home. I just looked at their fillers and didnt see much. I thought that Rafallen being 2 hours before voting might of been coincidental because of him going to finals, but you may be right since I did not analyze the time and that Arcotod had been forced out of the election around the same time.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:24 GMT
#1463
On December 16 2011 10:28 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 10:25 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 09:35 Jitsu wrote:
On December 16 2011 09:19 nyczbrandon wrote:
Refallen looks more suspicous of the two, but both havent posted much I can use. I think they might both be town.
Refallen has posted that he though that ProfB might be scum for random lynch, but later on posted that he did not look like it much anymore.
TotallyNotTwoPeople hasn't done much except going hard on Mr.Zentor for some reason.


What the hell kind of analysis is this? Your either not trying, or really like lurking.


I was being rushed to leave because my parents arrived and I had to go home. I just looked at their fillers and didnt see much. I thought that Rafallen being 2 hours before voting might of been coincidental because of him going to finals, but you may be right since I did not analyze the time and that Arcotod had been forced out of the election around the same time.

Now that you have more time, you can actually post some content with your suspicions. Go ahead, we're waiting with bated breath.


Like i said before, i think that they are both town and are not very suspicous. TNTP didn't do anything that appeared scummy to me, he didn't do much day 1 and stated that he has been playing HoN. I'm not sure what I can learn from his filter.
For Refallen, he is a little more suspicous than TNTP.
With :
On December 16 2011 09:24 Jitsu wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:12 Refallen wrote:
Oh wow, sorry I thought the day ends in 2 hours like in XLVIII, was trying to reread the thread. Will skim through and vote I guess.

And yes, why do you think I'm mafia rad?


This caught my eye. He says something along the lines of "day ends in two hours." So, he comes into the game almost right after Arcto is forced out of the election to "Skim Read" over the thread again...I feel that the time he picked (two hours until deadline) and the fact that the 'Election Block' ability of whatever we assume is the mafia equiv. to District Attorney had to have happened within two hours of the day ending.



and

On December 16 2011 09:52 Refallen wrote:
Jitsu, for the timing issue, look at where I live... I honestly just woke up. And my post timings are always around this timing because it's early morning over here.



The withdrawal from the election of Arctocod occured at 9:48. Around the time that Refallen says he wakes up. So it may certainly be a possibility that he is mafia scum rivaling the politician abilitites. Though I'm not sure if this is enough information.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:31 GMT
#1465
On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null.

In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do.


Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:
may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark.

On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?


"Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town."
+ Show Spoiler +

[B]On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.


and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason.
probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible.
Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
+ Show Spoiler +

not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.

this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp.


He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible.

In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known.

I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum.

Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now.


you mean the 4 targets that Radfield told me to look at?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:35 GMT
#1467
On December 16 2011 11:32 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 11:31 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null.

In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do.


On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:
may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark.

On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?


"Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town."
+ Show Spoiler +

[B]On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.


and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason.
probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible.
Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
+ Show Spoiler +

not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.

this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp.


He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible.

In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known.

I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum.

Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now.


you mean the 4 targets that Radfield told me to look at?


yea those


I don't get what you want. I'm just listening to what Radfield is telling me to do and try to be less lurkerish. Now it seems like its better if I just remained a lurker.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#1470
On December 16 2011 11:42 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 16 2011 11:35 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:32 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:31 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null.

In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do.


On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:
may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark.

On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?


"Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town."
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[B]On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.


and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason.
probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible.
Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
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not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.

this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp.


He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible.

In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known.

I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum.

Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now.


you mean the 4 targets that Radfield told me to look at?


yea those


I don't get what you want. I'm just listening to what Radfield is telling me to do and try to be less lurkerish. Now it seems like its better if I just remained a lurker.


This is it right here. From this post it is apparent that you know lurking is the wrong thing to do and that it hurts town. you also indicate that you have a choice in doing so or not. why is it then, that a town player would choose to lurk over being active and helping the town?


People said that lynching lurkers is bad and more likely to hit a lurking townie and would rather lynch a poster despite not having much information about both. I don't know if that is just for day 1 specifically but I think that seems like a viable reason for a townie to lurk.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#1473
Doing bare minimum makes me seem like scum?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:56 GMT
#1476
On December 16 2011 11:50 Jitsu wrote:
It's funny, because your logic, to me, is terribly flawed. Lynching lurkers *is* bad, because it wastes potential positive scummy players. You want to lurk so you can survive to day 2? Well, it's Day2. So post some analysis.

Maybe evantrees will come to your rescue.


I haven't seen much to analyze so far and even if I do, many may have posted it already and would be deemed as useless. We still have time for day 2, around 48 hours. If i see something that catches my attention I will analyze it.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 16 2011 02:56 GMT
#1477
On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:

Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.

Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.

Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.

Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.

If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead.


okay sure
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 20 2011 00:48 GMT
#2049
Sorry, was busy this weekend. Went to a christmas party o Saturday and had to do all my homework on Sunday, I will try to fulfill VE's last wishes
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 20 2011 03:05 GMT
#2075
zeks
His decisivness when accusing ProfessorBadass throughout the game seemed pro-town to me. He posted how he was suspicous of the timing of when ProfB ran for election as it was after Arctorod had been removed from the election. Would also try to connect the last minute vote switch of Spaackle to election of ProfB. Seemed even better when ProfB turned up as scum. If he were scum, he would not prompt a DT on a fellow mafia since he is not GF and will not come out as a different role.

Posts a seemingly convincible post about his suspicions of Sheth's play when he is a newcomer. Though he had posted a quote from the wrong player and was misinformed about other parts of Sheth's post. To me, this is a mistake made by zeks' suspicions of Sheth rather than intentionally using someone elses' post to accuse Sheth.

Continues to press Mr.Zentor on his alignment after revealing his role to everyone despite being apparent to others that it was pro town and not a scum ability.

Had backed up his Day 1 lynch rather than bandwagoning like many. I think scum in a situation where there was bandwagoning would try to conceal themselves and just vote without any words.

Two bad calls on xsksx and Eiii. He believed they were scum or suspicious, but turned up blue.

In the end, i think that he is blue. Accused ProfB and could of been a factor that led to him breaking down and giving up. Backs most of his suspicions with reasoning.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 20 2011 21:45 GMT
#2202
On December 21 2011 06:10 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
CAN YOU PLEASE DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO?

Guys! This game is basically over. If someone is on my redlist with a bluerole: CLAIM.
If someone has a similar role as the people on my bolded green-list: CLAIM.

And Vote for me in the election thread and Cascades in the lynchthread!!!


My role is vanille townie
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 20 2011 21:48 GMT
#2205
On December 21 2011 06:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Okay, time for a short summary:

1. Cascades is my scumread number 1 followed by
2. MarserBlood now jaj22
3. nyczbrandon
_____

I think I saw some reasonable town behaviour from every other player in this game.
Especially:

Myself
10. zeks was the first player who pointed out that Curu is scummy because he lied/was lazy. That would be an extremely strange move towards his veteran scumbuddy, if he were in fact scum.
14. GiygaS see Actros filter and his blue role etc. if noone else can perform this he's town
19. Radfield obviously
15. evantrees unlikely that there are two of this kind in the scumteam
3. GreYMisT medic without counterclaim
11. MrZentor dayextenstion role... pretty protown. If noone else can perform this he's likely town
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople attacked curu very early. townfeeling, no real evidence
18. Jitsu town-feeling no real evidence
12. risk.nuke town-feeling no real evidence
22. Liquid`Sheth town-feeling no real evidence

Null:
8. Refallen
5. Comprissent
9. Cwave
these guys just look a little bit better than the three suspects above.

_______

tonights plan:
I get elected as PO, I watch Radfield for sure to save him
Greymist gets elected as Prankster. he's almost confirmed.


was looking at this list, i am red here
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 21 2011 03:53 GMT
#2268
i thought i would get a warning
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