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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 24 2011 07:27 GMT
#2564
@Radfield
Not sure if I'll actually be around in the next while to give any more illuminating clues, so hopefully I've given you the grounds for understanding me.

@all
I will probably not be around much in the next 48 hours, but I'll do what I can.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 24 2011 16:44 GMT
#2582
@Radfield
Surely you can think of a way to ask that so you'll understand the answer but scum will not? I'm afraid that as it stands that question gives away a bit more than I would like.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 24 2011 17:17 GMT
#2584
@Radfield
I'll be busy for the holidays.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 25 2011 07:17 GMT
#2600
@Greymist
I already claimed my full role? Double vote in elections. Anonymous and in final count only. Once per cycle. It appears today is the last day I have to prove my role. Therefore, I will be using my role for the first time this game. Also, yes, I could see what they were posting in the quicktopic and breadcrumbed it in a way that was painfully obvious to them, while hopefully not 100% transparent to others. For some added confusion I always addressed Radfield with my posts, even if I was answering Zeks. I really wanted to post in there, but posting in it was not part of the role granted to me.

@Radfield
I really wanted to yell at you to protect Zeks, but wasn't sure how to tell you in a way that wouldn't just get me or you shot instead :-/
He may have been back to vanilla after that shot, but he had a very important ability today - he was eligible for election.
I share the concerns he expressed in the QT, but perhaps it is just paranoia.

Still @Radfield
I followed your request from post #8, but I have company coming over. I will defer to your experience, and leave it up to you to share the meaning of that to the others whenever you deem most appropriate. Please refer to Zek's post on the matter if anything seems unclear, and, I want to reiterate this, I am busy for the holidays. If for some reason you don't understand this, let me know ^_^

@All

I will remain silent on my lynch/election choice for now, as I would rather wait until Radfield discloses what I just told him, and will let discussion continue in the meantime.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 26 2011 06:44 GMT
#2635
@Radfield
Was just leaving your options open for any pressuring you might have wanted to do, but I suppose if I need to spell it out, I will just disclose it to everyone now.

Sadly, I did not get any abilities from the election other than the ability to read the 'private' thread given to Radfield that he used to mason Zeks. Radield, I was hoping that after I answered Zeks regarding the extent of my abilities, you would protect elsewhere considering this logic no longer held: "yeah i think we just need to keep tntp alive for this cycle so we get results of the check"

@Deus:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 21 2011 06:36 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
okay, who do we lynch?

1. Cascades
2. nyczbrandon
3. Comprissent

i favor the lynchcandidates in this order.


Complain about removing nycz from the choices:
On December 21 2011 07:02 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Announcement:

we don't lynch nyczbrandon today!!!

You may chose between Cascades and Comprissent

I don't know why you guys do that! There is nothing favouring nyczbrandon over the other two players.
:-(

I list nycz as likely to be town, you list him as 3rd best option for flipping scum, then complain:
On December 21 2011 13:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 13:07 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
On December 21 2011 13:07 GreYMisT wrote:
I know there was someone posting that they thought nycz was town, if someone could tell me who that person was that would be awesome.

I still think cascades is scummy, but I'm going to look over jitsu again, I have not visited his thoughts for a while.

It was me.


NO, IT WAS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANTED YOU TO GET YOUR VOTES OFF NCBLABLABLA

fuck!!! tomorrow we lynch cascades!!! I knew it!!! fuck!!!



Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 06:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Okay, time for a short summary:

1. Cascades is my scumread number 1 followed by
2. MarserBlood now jaj22
3. nyczbrandon
_____

I think I saw some reasonable town behaviour from every other player in this game.
Especially:

Myself
10. zeks was the first player who pointed out that Curu is scummy because he lied/was lazy. That would be an extremely strange move towards his veteran scumbuddy, if he were in fact scum.
14. GiygaS see Actros filter and his blue role etc. if noone else can perform this he's town
19. Radfield obviously
15. evantrees unlikely that there are two of this kind in the scumteam
3. GreYMisT medic without counterclaim
11. MrZentor dayextenstion role... pretty protown. If noone else can perform this he's likely town
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople attacked curu very early. townfeeling, no real evidence
18. Jitsu town-feeling no real evidence
12. risk.nuke town-feeling no real evidence
22. Liquid`Sheth town-feeling no real evidence

Null:
8. Refallen
5. Comprissent
9. Cwave
these guys just look a little bit better than the three suspects above.

_______

tonights plan:
I get elected as PO, I watch Radfield for sure to save him
Greymist gets elected as Prankster. he's almost confirmed.



and ncyblabla was my weakest scumread!!! I didn't want to lynch him...
Damn Radfield :-D

Cascades is the shit! I should have pushed for his lynch so much stronger :-(

You have no right to complain if you don't actually spell out your reads at all, and you certainly have no right to complain about your third best scum read out of 16 flipping green and yelling at anyone that thought he was scum. Especially considering that list was when there were still 3 scum left.

Also, if you didn't want Jitsu dead, maybe you should have bothered answering questions regarding him, rather than waiting until he got shot to start bitching?
On December 22 2011 07:22 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
@Deus
Can you please explain your town read on Jitsu? I am just not seeing it.

On December 24 2011 03:23 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
@Deus
What's your opinion of Jitsu currently?

If you ignore me and my questions, then don't expect me to give a fuck about what you say.


Also, questions for TNTP:
1. How hard did Radfield try to persuade Zeks not to shoot Jitsu?
2. Was there anything in the Zeks/Radfield chat that made you so sure that Radfield is town? HoD: Don't make the same mistake that you made in Newbie Mini Mafia.

1: As he already mentioned, he did not push it very hard, but he did state that his preference was cascades.
2: I trust Greymist the most, but no one completely. Given that Zeks flipped town, I don't know what you would expect to be particularly revealing of alignment in the private thread? Do you have reason to believe that he is scum? If so, I would be interested to hear the case. I've heard he has led the town as scum before, so I suppose it is not out of the realm of possibilities, but it is certainly not my foremost concern.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 21:48 GMT
#2685
Sorry for the afkness, was traveling back after spending Christmas with the family. Assuming the game is still going, I will also be traveling on new year's eve and new year's day. The other half of this hydra is also somewhat available again, and is getting caught up on the thread, but he said he won't have time to read it all before the deadline today, so no second opinion on the election/lynch vote from him today :-(

On the topic of the actual game itself...
Voting risk.nuke as I trust him more than I trust ja. Either way though, whoever passes on the plan better damn well say what it is, and whoever then gets to pick whether or not to enact it better say as well. I would like the rest of us to be consulted on which plan to pass on as well, although I realize we could be lied to on this. God help you two if you don't claim the same thing. I think the odds of us having at least one scum in office is too high to let them act at their own discretion tonight.

@Deus
You think I'm scum now? Come at me bro. I'd love to hear whatever "reasoning" you might have.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 22:46 GMT
#2687
On December 28 2011 06:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
"@Deus
You think I'm scum now? Come at me bro. I'd love to hear whatever "reasoning" you might have."

ah you're such an idiot. It's nothing personal if I think about the possibility that you might be scum.
I take every circumstance into consideration and I try to figure out how to win this.
by the way. I already delivered a reason that makes you suspicious but I didn't say your scum yet.
If you read correctly you can see that very clearly.

I hate to deal with this kind of stupidity and lazyness. This will be my last game for a while.

I can quote at least 5 questions of mine you have failed to answer during this game, and at least 3 instances of you being confused due to not reading things already stated in the thread. You don't get to bitch about "lazyness".

If your reason is because of that role you claim is "pretty similar" to mine, let's review some things.
My role is every cycle, that role is two shot.
My role is for elections only, that role is for election and lynch.
My role is an anonymous vote, that role moves someone else's vote.
Similar: both are only reflected in final tally, both are related to voting.
But I don't see how any of that is relevant in the slightest or how it is a reason for finding me suspicious.

Last time you called me scum you posted this as reasoning and ignored every request I made for more details:
2. I filtered you guys and you did nothing this game. No real opinion given on anything axcept risk, greymist and zentor. These players have been discussed several times and nearly everyone gave an opinion. And you only repeated thing that have already been said.
So no, explain yourself more than that lazy as fuck post you made complaining about me being lazy. I am thoroughly tired of your bullshit.

As for your claim that you never called me scum, while it is true you never directly did so, but...
On December 27 2011 14:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
I was just thinking about how I don't like refallen as cascades scumbuddy and it suddenly came to me.
You are definitely implying that you think I am scum along with cascades here, as this post was right after the quote about the roles.

On December 26 2011 07:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
it's obvious btw. If jaj is innocent, tntp is the next.
You are voting for jaj to be elected, so are you voting for someone you think is scum, or do you think I am scum? Whichever it is, I want a damn good explanation for it.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 23:07 GMT
#2691
On December 28 2011 08:04 jaj22 wrote:
The post I was going to write now feels like pissing into a shitstorm, so I'll stick to the essentials.

On elections:
I don't think it matters much who gets the second election place as if they don't share the plans openly, they're just going to get lynched tomorrow. What might get ugly is if mafia can use that candidate-withdrawal power a third time, but that stuff happens after my bedtime anyway.

@TNTP: Remember to make your extra vote.

Already sent it in.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 23:15 GMT
#2693
@jaj22
What's your opinion of deus?
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 23:19 GMT
#2694
Might as well see if we can get some extra info...
Can you clarify whether the secret ballot was a player ability or a non-player-specific game-mechanic?
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 03:10 GMT
#2697
Fliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 03:15 GMT
#2699
On December 28 2011 12:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Day Five Final Tally:

risk.nuke (5): GreYMisT, Radfield, cascades, Refallen, -Refallen, TotallyNotTwoPeople, jaj22

jaj22 (3): DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Refallen, risk.nuke

Refallen (1):

Proof of my anonymous election voting. I think you all should be able to figure out where my extra vote went.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 04:10 GMT
#2706
On December 28 2011 13:02 GreYMisT wrote:
Risk mafia were already bussing cascades a while back, See Sheth's filter and him saying that he wanted to lynch cascades before he died. I would personally look for people who soft defended cascades by shifting blame onto another.

Check out jaj then. He allegedly voted for cascades during the secret ballot, but who knows if he really did...
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 07:14 GMT
#2709
On December 28 2011 16:10 Refallen wrote:
Shouldn't the military adviser be posting the two scenarios for his role now?

He has never posted between 10:00 and 21:00 TL time during this game.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 17:06 GMT
#2711
We clearly have no serial killers, so if there are any 3rd parties, I would assume it is a survivor. The only person that makes sense for that is Refallen. But survivors can win with town anyway, so might as well enact campaign number 1.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 17:12 GMT
#2712
On December 28 2011 23:58 jaj22 wrote:
Anyway, I don't think there's much information in the military campaigns that could be of use to scum nightkills, so I'll paraphrase them here:

Campaign #1: Cause a double lynch in the next cycle.
Campaign #2: Reveal identities of all third party players.

#1 is the obvious choice given the number of players remaining if we don't think there are really any third parties (we get three lynches rather than two before the end of the game).

#2 is worrying me because both TNTP and Radfield are plausible third parties.

...a double-voter with no kp is a plausible third party to you?
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 29 2011 02:58 GMT
#2722
You realize it also said it reveals the identities of any third party players, not their roles. It wouldn't help shit. Also, wtf no double lynch? A chance of scum having a shot blocked, which can only help us if it causes us to be able to get an extra lynch off, is better than a double lynch which will 100% of the time let us get an extra lynch off because...?
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 29 2011 03:10 GMT
#2724
Why I didn't use double lynch is because I don't like the way there were almost no discussion about the third party reveal which I thought was really good because we can't deduct the possibility of a SK despite what you say and even if it didn't reveal a sk it could reveal 1-2 townfriendly role that would let us eliminate them from the scum circle and by that increase our chance to hit scum. I think making confirmed townies unkillable is the better option.


The Commander-In-Chief has selected the double lynch campaign! All players have two votes in the day six lynch. You must vote for two different players. The roles and the alignments of all lynched players will not be revealed. There is no election today. The vote count will be updated by myself and cyber, rather than zbot. You have 48 hours.

Wat?
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 29 2011 03:12 GMT
#2726
If you wanted to bluff, you would need to say you were making radfield protected in some way, since he had a protection ability left that he couldn't use on himself, he was the obvious target for scum.

-_-
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 29 2011 03:57 GMT
#2737
On December 29 2011 12:53 Refallen wrote:
I find it also extremely weird that a mafia would target rad after you claimed fake vet-making as your ability. You obviously thought rad was a very likely town (you've been asking him about opinions and to commentate on your scum reads), so I don't think mafia would have taken the risk and gone for radfield

You also haven't explained why you wanted to lie.

Well, myself and greymist were the only two to post between his claim and the end of night...and I think we already knew neither me nor greymist are scum, soooo yeah, I don't think risk's little tactic accomplished anything/gives us any useful info.
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