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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 06:26 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: optimal play to protect radfield, me and the new prankster (Greymist): I go for PC, and watch Rad. Rad saves Grey one of the other green guys on my list will get shot and we continue to lynch scum = win. inb4 me + zeks get shot | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 06:28 cascades wrote: At last Deus actually gives his own opinion instead of fishing for others! Applause for his first real "contribution". You are going to have to do better than that I am afraid. I don't even know what is behind town's high regard for you. Definitely artificial. All you have done so far is to jump on bandwagons, such as trying to claim credit for Greymist's lynch. You were 95% sure then. Good night. Do something useful and stop bitching about veteran players please and thank you! You keep yelling at people to post cases, I have looked through your filter (more than once actually), and let's count the cases posted in it. ... ... ... Oh wait, 0. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 06:36 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: okay, who do we lynch? 1. Cascades 2. nyczbrandon 3. Comprissent i favor the lynchcandidates in this order. I favor comprissent, as I mostly have null-reads on these people, but he has soft-defended the known scum: Spackle, your analysis on Dropbear is 100% theory, and I would not like to lynch based off that On December 17 2011 06:02 Comprissent wrote: Implying they aren't already hiding behind the ProfBA/Arc drama? ...fuck flood control -_- | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:34 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I really am afraid, that you guys screw up... I need to sleep now. I hope Radfield watches the process... My wishlist: lynch between Cascades and Comprissent (I favor casc) and #1 election for me and #2 for Greymist. don't get paranoid and screw up!!! I saw such play several times!!! Is this what I think it is? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 07:41 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I don't know what you actually think, because I can't look into your head. But I think this is the paranoia i was talking about. I think it looks like soft-claiming paranoid cop. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 10:54 Comprissent wrote: Ok the first one i can understand as a soft defense, but did you bother to read his 'analysis'? My reasoning there was perfectly solid. I don't understand the second one, how is that defending scum? Are we able to do a no-lynch? We seem to have a solid plan for picking off reds tonight, i see no point in risking lynching a townie with whatever odds there are being thrown around We cannot no-lynch. If you wish to avoid being lynched, you have one hour to convince people that someone else is a better target. The second one is soft defending because saying mafia is using that drama to hide implies that neither of the involved parties are mafia. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
To any of those who have voted but have not given their reason, even if you are voting for comprissent or cascades, if you do not post an explanation of why you chose the one you voted for over the other, I will assume you are volunteering to be lynched tomorrow. That is all. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 11:15 Refallen wrote: Why is cascades suddenly a prime target for lynching? I really think he's town. How do you have a good town read on a guy with a filter that doesn't even reach page 2? Please, quote what makes you think he is town. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 11:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I posted my case on NYCZBrandon and I'm sticking with it. If someone other then Cascades / Comprissent magically gets above everyone in voting, then I'll switch to one of those two. (Unless its Brandon ofc!) That's fine, I am not saying everyone has to vote for one of those two players, just that they must explain their vote. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 12:22 Radfield wrote: I shouldn't need to say this, but vigilantes should be firing tonight. We have about 8 players who could all die, and I would not be particularly saddened. Cwave Sheth nyczbrandon Jitsu Marserreplacement cascades refallen pew pew I support this message. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 13:07 GreYMisT wrote: I know there was someone posting that they thought nycz was town, if someone could tell me who that person was that would be awesome. I still think cascades is scummy, but I'm going to look over jitsu again, I have not visited his thoughts for a while. It was me. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 13:14 Jitsu wrote: I figured that if I was wrong on that call, I would be looked at. Hopefully you find townie confirmation and we can continue looking for scum. On a side note, I would hope that the Vig not waste a KP on me and hopefully just target a mafia. I will look through posts again, although, I don't think my word will hold much weight anymore, though. That one read has little to do with the suspicion on you. Your overall game presence is much more important than one incorrect tunnel. I read through your filter 3 times during this game day, and no, it wasn't to help build the case on Comprissent, it was to see if I should be building one on you. As for the weight of your word, if you build a solid case, it will be able to stand on its own. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 13:24 GreYMisT wrote: I'm having some trouble finding it, is this the post you were talking about?: I don't think you are scum, I'm just trying to locate peoples opinions on nycz. i've read through Jitsu once, and ill have to do it again before I come to any real conclusions. so far I think he is most likely town though. He was tunneling compressient all game to be sure, but when it came time for comp to be lynched his play differed from what I thought scum play would be. Instead of voting, posting that he thought comp was scum, and then falling off the thread, he instead made it known that he was one of the first to post a case on him, and made himself known as the night post approached. Would of course like to hear others' thoughts on this, but so far he looks pretty green to me. No it is not what I was talking about. Posts are spoilered below: + Show Spoiler + On December 20 2011 09:22 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Because 2 things: 1) I don't think he is scum, as I have posted about before. 2) Modkills kill people just as well as lynches, and discussing someone who can't defend himself at all (by being completely afk from the thread) doesn't really help town discussion. On December 17 2011 07:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: @VE I agree in wanting discussion going on besides just the Curu/ProfessorBadass lynch. I believe I mentioned it before, but I am leaning toward newbie town over newbie scum on nycz. As I mentioned before, I think if he was on a scum team they would have offered him at least some pointers on his play to make it less useless. If I am correct about him being town, I'd really appreciate it if he could step it up and be more active and post some well thought-out analysis on someone. At the very least he could do what he said he would do here:+ Show Spoiler + @nycz Have you looked at any of the guides/records of previous games? Regarding evantrees, I see a lot of the stuff that scum loves to do to be 'useful', like answering things that can be answered by looking in the op, looking at the voting thread, etc. I would be much more comfortable lynching him than I would be lynching nycz. @evantrees How about you give your top 2 scum reads and some analysis on them? You said you were trying to be helpful, and your scum reads will be infinitely more helpful than things like:+ Show Spoiler + We do Time Cycle: Currently the deadline is 2200 EST[local] This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle, 24 hour night cycle. last one took him a few minutes(at 12:19) as well, hopefully not 19 minutes this time. He's making it appropriately themed I suppose. too try keep it at 3 as long as possible as in not go down to 4 members Total Mafia = 5 Mafia kp=#mafia/2 (rounded up) Elected peopel can't be lynched that day. lynchproof for the day only + some sort of ability most likely, expecting Police Chief to show up sometime given the dead list from day 1 but what that would do not sure. so assuming radfield is to be believed about being roleblocked. I could list more, but I think you get the point.the mafia has attorney used a roleblocker and 3 unknowns possibly one a vanilla goon. I really doubt more than 1 vanilla goon given the election. On December 16 2011 09:27 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Hmm, I seem to recall seeing some ideas for posts/posts made in quicktopics before posting them in the thread from past games I have read through, and I have certainly seen some coaching of newbies in them. Regardless, this part still stands: If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? Unless Greymist believes nycz decided to use that strategy on his own and then decided to ask: on his own as well. On December 16 2011 09:16 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @greymist What about nyczbrandon makes him seem like scum to you rather than newbie-town? Do you think scum would be letting one of their members say things like: If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
Hey, uh, why do you support a message suggesting that you get shot? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 21 2011 14:16 Liquid`Sheth wrote: TBH the list could easily be Cwave Sheth Nyczbrandon Jitsu Marserreplacement cascades refallen totallynottwopeople He even says 8 people in his post, I guess he just forgot to put you up there. Do you support this initiative? I do not support being my being shot. And I doubt he simply forgot to list me as someone to shoot, considering not long ago he listed me as someone he may protect: On December 21 2011 06:29 Radfield wrote: no one needs to know whom I am protecting. I can figure that out on my own. zeks, TNTP, Prankster, etc. For now I think the best action is Dues-ex as #1 and Greymist as #2. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
Can you please explain your town read on Jitsu? I am just not seeing it. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 22 2011 08:15 jaj22 wrote: @Deus: I'm guessing it's not because you're his top living scumread  http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12843557 Hey, you've had some time to catch up on things now...what are your current top scum reads? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
@Zeks, I am fine with that setup for the election. Will be casting my election vote for Radfield. So, for the lynch: cwave, cascades, and jitsu, how is everyone feeling about these three? I'm going to reread filters again, but they all seem like perfectly good targets to me. Now to see which seems the most likely to flip red... I'd be willing to entertain a handful of other options if Radfield or Zeks wishes to pursue others. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
Five Players to Save: Arctocod, GiygaS, Radfield, Zentor, and ProfBA. Sheth seems to be floundering a bit when under pressure. Not sure if this is a scum read, and I know it's obviously a re-hash of what people have already said. Unsure of yourself, or just distancing from fellow scum? Either way about the lightest of an accusation possible.Your post explaining the situation with prof.ba was around the time Sheth voted for him...perhaps the time that it was agreed in the scum qt to go full speed ahead with the bus? Your post about it before that one: On December 17 2011 05:36 Jitsu wrote: Lol. So. What did you do, Curu? On December 18 2011 12:15 Jitsu wrote: Maybe it is just me, but the congratulating VE feels forced here.Viscera, you're the man! GOod job. Sorry about my lack of activity today guys. Had two seperate Christmas parties to go to tonight, and am actually going to hit the sack. I believe my votes are in for today, so we should be all good. Nice pick on Bumatlarge. VE, all you baby. ~Jitsu Late game scum reads: Up until about 5 minutes ago, I was pretty convinced about Sheth, GreyMist, and Comprissent. Next post you list your scum reads as follows:1st place: Comprissent is Top on my list. 2nd place: My next suspect is nyczbrandon. 3rd place: This spot is the void that was Greymist. As of now, it has been replaced with Deus-Ex-Mafia. No mention of Sheth. Also despite being "pretty convinced" about Sheth prior to that, you had made no accusations against him. That being said, you are not my strongest scum read currently. | ||
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