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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 20:00 GMT
#1569
curu, you were accused in kurumis game, but you were nowhere near being lynched. we lynched the people who accused you instead. all of them in a row.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 20:07 GMT
#1572
blargh. i hate that. i would have gladly unvoted if you had presented me someone i am also suspiciouus of...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 22:01 GMT
#1646
okay palmar. curus role is a scumrole and he didnt defend himself. i guess you were right.
however you have to admit, that my play would have made sense, if he actually was town. good guy bad guy psychology etc.
now that curu won't make trouble, we can focus on the post-curu-time.

i want to know what you guys think about me and where i am on your list. depending on that i may going to play more transparent to avoid confusion. if you actually lean (correctly) towards town, I keep playing the same and continue to ask my questions etc.
i also want to make sure that i survive night2. i am still not convinced of giygas being a superior electioncandidate compared to myself.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 22:08 GMT
#1650
no bodyguards? okay screw that :D
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 22:36 GMT
#1665
risk you idiot. theoretically scum could have used that ability and curu is town... however this is extremely unlikely...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 22:42 GMT
#1666
On December 17 2011 07:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 07:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 17 2011 07:10 risk.nuke wrote:
Kita, ProfBad locking himself in the house, did he use it on himself or don't we know that. I'm asking because the post makes it sound like he did and if we're not supposed to know who did it it's purposly misleading


No comment

you can't "no comment", Hypotheticly if ProfBad used that abillity. would the post had looked just the same with a different name if he had used it on someone else or did you write that post biased by the circumstances.


On December 17 2011 07:36 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
risk you idiot. theoretically scum could have used that ability and curu is town... however this is extremely unlikely...


what I meant, of course he can no comment this question. It's up to us to figure this out...

is risk.nuke scum?
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 22:52 GMT
#1668
hey syllo, I got one question... Why didn't curu silence you at the beginning of the day... As scum i'd have done exactly that...
It's probably a one or twoshot ability but palmar already posted at night that he wants to lynch him...


On December 14 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Not to mention it's fucking retarded from a setup point of view to have a real-time ability that can just be used after we're both gone to bed. We weren't even around to tell people who should be voted into office instead of us.

We're lynching ProfessorBadass tomorrow.


do you think he knew he wouldn't survive day3 for sure if he silences you day1 ?
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 22:54 GMT
#1670
On December 17 2011 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Deus to answer your question, I'm leaning scum on you atm. I mean, I appreciate that you're trying to appear scared to die overnight, but the fact of the matter is that while you're decrying Palmogism's actions saying that he's "ruined town atmosphere", you haven't done anything yourself to correct it. You've thrown out token questions of people asking their opinions of others, but you don't appear to be interested in giving any of your own reads to discuss.


you don't understand. I wanted to give curu the chance to rehabilitate himself. I don't wanted to attack Palmar too much there. I just wanted to compensate Palmars agressiveness. I thought I already made that clear with my goodguy badguy explanation. However Curu decided to be extremely stubborn and claim scum in the thread lol.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#1678
On December 17 2011 09:01 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 08:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ahhh...missed I read that post and looked at the voting thread and didn't see anything immediately wrong with it so I disregarded. I got ya now.

So, AbsolutelySingularEntity, if Curu were somehow unlynchable today, who would you want to lynch and why?

...have you been reading my posts? If so, the answer to that question should be quite obvious. Although I still haven't received a straight answer on how his play this game compares to his normal town play.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066&currentpage=2

this is the towncuru
+ MASSIVE amount of PMs with me and mig...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 05:56 GMT
#1713
On December 17 2011 14:54 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 14:53 Curu wrote:
And yes you should still be lynching me. I accept that I've put myself into this position with my stubbornness, attitude and activity, just want to say sorry in advance!

I'm also fairly pissed off at Erandorr who basically told me that I would get lynched sooner or later because of his non posting then continued to do nothing at all. It became an extremely uphill battle that I didn't want to put effort into facing.

Sorry to everyone I was overly aggressive to as well! I let a bit of my rage at my hydra partner spill over into my posting . No hard feelings.

Wait, can't you not talk or something?


read...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 06:02 GMT
#1714
hehe Curu, your ability is still not a very protown ability. Scum had this ability in your lotr-mafia, too.
+ your apology for your activity doesn't make you town :-D
(I somewhere already posted, that you activitylvl has nothing to do with you being scum or not)
"Early apologies to everyone who I ruined this game for" - I guess this is directed towards your scumteammembers then :D

I am looking forward to play with you again when you have some more time to actually play. ;-)

DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 07:17 GMT
#1720
On December 17 2011 12:43 Radfield wrote:
OK, so we're obviously lynching curu. Silencer is a fairly scum-favoured tool, and using it on oneself is not particularly town. Not to mention, did anyone else read that convo between Erandorr and Curu and think it was a convo between two townies? I did not.

In other news, I am here to save the day! I have the power to enact a double lynch, and as such will be using it today. Curu is obviously locked in, so lets kickstart on who else we want to lynch


Bum, your posting is ridiculously terrible this game. I would guess half your posts so far I actually have no idea what your talking about. Have you filtered anyone? Have you read any post more than once? You just feel like your putting in about 10 minutes a day of effort. I realize you're homeless and everything, but don't the public libraries have computers you can use?

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 08:00 Arctocod wrote:
On December 17 2011 07:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hey syllo, I got one question... Why didn't curu silence you at the beginning of the day... As scum i'd have done exactly that...
It's probably a one or twoshot ability but palmar already posted at night that he wants to lynch him...

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 14 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Not to mention it's fucking retarded from a setup point of view to have a real-time ability that can just be used after we're both gone to bed. We weren't even around to tell people who should be voted into office instead of us.

We're lynching ProfessorBadass tomorrow.


do you think he knew he wouldn't survive day3 for sure if he silences you day1 ?

I don't know, maybe it only lasts for X hours rather than the whole day? It's fairly pointless to speculate about his role because the way he used it and acted in the thread make him a pretty much confirmed scum.

Also, we definitely shouldn't consider MrZentor confirmed town or anything based on his ability


On December 14 2011 10:10 MrZentor wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's an ability that must be used before two hours before the election.
A little over 2 hours remain in the day.


There is no reason for Palmar to do this, and if he had, he would explain it.

Risk.nuke acts like Palmar was the one who resigned, something a mafia would do if it were a mafia role like the one I described.

Ehh wtf move palmar?


And he tries to get the role of pardoner.

Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.

Yeah, risk.nuke is mafia.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands.


It's a rather astute conclusion based on the information available at the time, especially coming from a new player. Eiii's flip pretty much confirmed that it really is the case for the scum version of the role. He also pushes risk nuke, who I believe mafia has considered to be the easy mislynch. While his role can be used in a pro town fashion as he did when I requested him to, it's also quite nice for scum.

I'll have to look into what people were saying about Zentor on day 1 though to see if him being scum makes sense

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12735074



This is actually remarkably damning. I haven't checked the time-stamps yet, but what possible reason would a townie have for speculating that it was an ability that needed to be used at least 2 hours before the day. I NEVER would have gotten close to assuming that. It was obvious it was scum driven, but 2 hours? That's incredibly specific and accurate.

MrZentor, when you are around please let me know. I have a few questions for you.


Don't use the doublelynch today!!!
If curu is scum he has nothing to lose and he may just pardon the other lynchcandidate if he's scum.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 08:06 GMT
#1723
On December 17 2011 16:50 cascades wrote:
So I guess this confirms ProfBad as scum then. I was looking through the vets to determine scummy play. I found all of them scummy for not pointing out how Arc was killing town discussion. I even laid the foundation to do so, but none of them stepped up to the plate. Finally Deus supplied the answer: it is Arc (Palmar) meta is to always play antitown like this. Hahahaha.

And now we have yet another policy lynch based on the fact that this Erandorr vet is a joke that ragequits games when he gets mafia. And in fact he does this so often its a meta that every vet knows. Surreal. Why isn't he permabanned yet? I want a Erandorr ban if ProfBad turns out to be scum. What a joke.

Banning Erandorr if ProfBad = scum?


his play is not exactly antitown. it's the others who play antitown because they're highly sensitive and dont think for themselves. his mistake is that he doesnt take this into account
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 08:38 GMT
#1724
On December 17 2011 16:50 cascades wrote:
So I guess this confirms ProfBad as scum then. I was looking through the vets to determine scummy play. I found all of them scummy for not pointing out how Arc was killing town discussion. I even laid the foundation to do so, but none of them stepped up to the plate. Finally Deus supplied the answer: it is Arc (Palmar) meta is to always play antitown like this. Hahahaha.

And now we have yet another policy lynch based on the fact that this Erandorr vet is a joke that ragequits games when he gets mafia. And in fact he does this so often its a meta that every vet knows. Surreal. Why isn't he permabanned yet? I want a Erandorr ban if ProfBad turns out to be scum. What a joke.

Banning Erandorr if ProfBad = scum?


btw. I'd like to have your opinion on the following players:

evantress
bumatlarge
nyczbrandon
GreYMisT
Cwave
tntp

:-)
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 11:15 GMT
#1728
On December 17 2011 19:59 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:50 cascades wrote:
And now we have yet another policy lynch based on the fact that this Erandorr vet is a joke that ragequits games when he gets mafia. And in fact he does this so often its a meta that every vet knows. Surreal. Why isn't he permabanned yet? I want a Erandorr ban if ProfBad turns out to be scum. What a joke.

Banning Erandorr if ProfBad = scum?

The whole point of a hydra is that you don't personally have to post at all if you don't want. They may even had had a such an agreement in place. There is nothing wrong with that.

Also it's not a policy lynch at all; curu's play makes him scum and erandorr's absense just made us have a closer look at him. What do you think about MrZentor and Sheth cascades?


I definetely can see why MrZentor is scummy - I don't need any further explantion there.
But I really want to see the case on sheth.

Right now my scumteam consists of:
cascades, curu, zentor + two people from my list above. (in terms of scummyness ordered from top to bottom.)
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 16:04 GMT
#1736
hmm after filterin almost everyone individually, I made a scumranklist including scummyness of every player in this game. I'd like to discuss that list especially with radfield, Palmar and Syllo.
Do you think it's better to post that list now or better at the end of the night.
I think I got some correct and well reasoned townreads on several players... Maybe that would make them to scumtargets...
Although the advantage to discuss that list today is that we lay down more pressure on the people who I don't have a townread on and we have more time... So what do you think...

Moreover I know that you, Palmar and Syllo, already have such a list aswell. However I think we have some differences.
If we exchange our opinions, I guess we could nail down most of the scumteam...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 16:34 GMT
#1738
VE you got this... *facepalm*
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 16:41 GMT
#1741
On December 18 2011 01:37 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 01:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hmm after filterin almost everyone individually, I made a scumranklist including scummyness of every player in this game. I'd like to discuss that list especially with radfield, Palmar and Syllo.
Do you think it's better to post that list now or better at the end of the night.
I think I got some correct and well reasoned townreads on several players... Maybe that would make them to scumtargets...
Although the advantage to discuss that list today is that we lay down more pressure on the people who I don't have a townread on and we have more time... So what do you think...

Moreover I know that you, Palmar and Syllo, already have such a list aswell. However I think we have some differences.
If we exchange our opinions, I guess we could nail down most of the scumteam...


I don't think you understand when to use ellipses (...).
Anyway I'll be retreading the thread today as well. Suggest everyone do the same.


Sorry...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 20:49 GMT
#1750
On December 18 2011 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Liquid`Sheth
Uh oh...nevermind. He admits to trying to "collect towncred". Waahwaahwaaaaaaaah. I get trying to establish innocence, but that's not what he said is it?


this was trolling. obviously. i want to read a real case. i can think of some scummy aspects of shets play but none of the things you painted red are scumtells and my own finds dont weigh up the fact that he's contributing without fear...
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 17 2011 21:33 GMT
#1758

On December 18 2011 06:04 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 05:56 Arctocod wrote:
On December 18 2011 05:49 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
On December 18 2011 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Liquid`Sheth
Uh oh...nevermind. He admits to trying to "collect towncred". Waahwaahwaaaaaaaah. I get trying to establish innocence, but that's not what he said is it?


this was trolling. obviously. i want to read a real case. i can think of some scummy aspects of shets play but none of the things you painted red are scumtells and my own finds dont weigh up the fact that he's contributing without fear...

A significant part of the case against him rests on the assumption that he is actually taking the game as seriously as his activity indiciates and is approaching things objectively. I have a difficult time believing that a smart townie would make certain statements and behave in the way he has. I actually want to believe that he is mafia, because otherwise I'm a bit disappointed in him, which may not be fair given that it's apparently his first forum mafia game. If he is mafia, he has played very well and I applaud his effort. I'll reread his filter after the flip before deciding whether I consider MrZentor or him the better lynch tomorrow.


I thought I proved I was town.
Adding 24 hours of discussion for town is obviously an advantage for town.


you have a 70/30-town/scum-ratio role. Your overall behaviour is really scummy.


On December 18 2011 06:13 GiygaS wrote:
I'm giving the temp medics job is to save me and Arc tonight, so that the other medics can focus on Radfield/Zentor? Any objections?


there will be no medic on zentor, that's for sure.

On December 18 2011 06:17 Arctocod wrote:
Or I suppose we could just lynch Bum next as he doesn't seem to be interested in playing the game. There is no excuse for inactivity when you voluntarily sub in. None.


I didn't check it yet, but if he really accused evantrees, I think he might be innocent. evantrees looks even more scummy to me right now.
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