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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 02:22 GMT
#1224
I think he's trying to say that he thinks a town player blue used that special instead of a red, since the move didn't benefit the mafia as much as it would have later? Not quite sure.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 12:06 GMT
#1300
Somethings I would like to note on.
MrZentor claimed blue role yesterday, but never really came out and said what it was after it became "useless." Not sure what the role was/could have been, but when he was called on it, I think he just ignored the post and faded out?

I would like to see Arcto/GigyaS for the new selections. My reasoning? We are all pretty much aware that GigyaS is town, because of his role. The question was is Arcto playing the role of town up? It could be possible. I believe Arcto is town, at least right now. So at this point, they will be getting my two roles for elections.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 17:59 GMT
#1328
Not sure if it's relevant, but I kind of have that scum feeling with risk, although I have nothing to substantiate it. Will check filters for evidence. Still feel Comprissent is somewhat scummy.

Hey risk, just wondering, but who do you think would be good to look at for possible scum-evidence, and why do you feel that way?
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 18:15 GMT
#1332
Hey Arcto, what is your initial read on Comprissant?
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 18:51 GMT
#1337
Yeah, by that logic, I would be all over GreYMisT too. I get a towny-feel from him.
Conversely, you bandwagon-ed against me from GreY's post without any analysis of your own, pretty sure. At least, I just checked the filter, and you pretty much said "Yeah, player A and player B would be good lynches I feel. That being said, let's lynch Jitsu." Logic.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 19:10 GMT
#1341
On December 16 2011 03:57 Comprissent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 03:51 Jitsu wrote:
Yeah, by that logic, I would be all over GreYMisT too. I get a towny-feel from him.
Conversely, you bandwagon-ed against me from GreY's post without any analysis of your own, pretty sure. At least, I just checked the filter, and you pretty much said "Yeah, player A and player B would be good lynches I feel. That being said, let's lynch Jitsu." Logic.


Yes it was something I immediately recognized and did not vote for you because of that. There ended up being no solid analysis for anyone day1, and we ended up lynching a blue, no surprise

Also, will you all please spell my name right >.<


Than you go and bandwagon vote lynch someone else, a blue.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 23:25 GMT
#1388
On December 16 2011 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:18 Radfield wrote:
Greymist, assuming risk.nuke was unlynchable today, who would you be voting for.

Even if you don't have specifics, who are your top 3 scummy players right now?


Give me a few minutes, still looking through some of day1 to see what I can find.

The problem is i feel the majority of the actives are town, and that the scum is mixed in with the townie lurkers. This is making it rather hard to find them to be honest.


I feel almost the exact same with this. However, I also feel that there may be one, possibly two strong mafia players who are semi-active, and who are experiences, to lead them. There is no way the mafia is staying this well hidden without prompting, and making such good calls and well-played deceptiveness if they were all newbs. I think maybe one strong veteran mafia player would fit the bill.

I think the same question could go back at you Radfield, and I actually want to see Arcto's response to this as well. Who do you both feel would be good Top 3 Lynches, and why?

As for my election post, I feel GiygaS had hit the nail on the head. I will be voting for Arcto for hopes that he will get a Secretary of Defense roll. I hope everyone can coordinate properly to get those two players in power roles.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 23:42 GMT
#1395
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2011 08:39 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:37 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Going over the filters, I've coded things by how I perceive them…black for null, red for scummy and green for townie. If I'm mistaken (like, if something is really null that I've called scummy), let me know…workin' on my GAME bro!

MarserBlood
Opening post doesn't say much. Basically says "I don't know who to elect or lynch"
Decides who to elect, not sure who to lynch.
Zeks isolation analysis. Cites that he chose Zeks because he was "one of the suspicious persons," but finds his contributions satisfactory and chooses to vote MrZentor because of "a scummy post" he made, and lack of "obvious scum" to vote. Also states aversion to lynching lurkers for obvious reasons (no info, probably town, etc.)
Here and here he states suspicion that Mafia was behind the removal of Palmogism from the electoral running. Also "congratulates the doc" in dismaying over the loss of a blue. But taken with wanting to talk about something at night, I still get a null read from these posts.
Here I can't tell if he's trying to appear pro-town or trying to maintain a productive atmosphere in town, so again…null.
Soft-defends Radfield from an attack by risk.nuke.

Verdict: Null leaning Town.

nyczbrandon
Notes his inexperience. You only get one freebie guy.
Short response to Spaackle saying he should think for himself.
Uh oh… another appeal to his newbishness… He also comments on Zeks, saying he was suspicious before, but because he called out Sheth for a perceived contradiction….what? He's not suspicious anymore? He doesn't say. But he does say that he'll vote for MrZentor or Sheth. Sheth I assume for the 'contradiction', and Zentor because he "seems to change votes a lot." I don't know, it seems to me like a raw-newbie wouldn't consider indecision as a scum-tell. Possibly help from outside sources? His scum-buddies? I DON'T KNOW BRO!
Here is something interesting. A raw-newbie asking about a modkill for not voting. I mean, okay, it's a valid question from anyone who read the OP…but this seems to indicate that he did NOT read the OP. Curiouser and curiouser.

Verdict: Newb-Scum Lean


The reason i didn't vote for Sheth or Zentor because seemed like majority of people were bandwagoning Spaackle so I did as well. It was like last minute so I wasn't sure what to do. Also I responded to Zentor when he asked me why I said he was changing his votes a lot. I thought I saw him doing this and apoligized to him for wrongfully doubting him.

The reason I asked for modkill, because I think I remember Sheth posting that Nisani was the only person to not have voted for lynch.


Amazing when you come out of the woodwork as soon as you're accused.



Echoed. Always seem to come back at the right time. You even admit to lurking. Don't. Lurk.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 23:48 GMT
#1401
No, I think it has to do with you posting more obvious things without substance.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 23:55 GMT
#1405
The strange thing about Cwave is that I barely remember him on Day1, yet he comes out of the woodwork on Day2. Didn't check his filter, just a mental note. I'll look thru some stuff.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 15 2011 23:59 GMT
#1409
If you don't mind Rad, I will answer your questions as well. Give me a few to look around.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 00:24 GMT
#1423
Alright, Rad, I will shed some light on this situation. Hopefully this can convince some people:

I think Comprissent is mafia. For this reason, I will post my previous case on him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&currentpage=23#460
In addition, I feel that he ***STILL*** hasn't contributed anything except tagging on posts at the end of things and filler posts here and there.


Now, between TNTP and Refallen. I was looking through Refallen's posts, and something hit me.


On December 14 2011 12:00 Refallen wrote:
O ractually, nevermind, 5 pages updated since I last posted or something. Seems like everyone wants to stay on the spaackle wagon to get a lynch so I'm willing to do that as well.


Obvious bandwagon is obvious. Doesn't help his case.


On December 14 2011 11:12 Refallen wrote:
Oh wow, sorry I thought the day ends in 2 hours like in XLVIII, was trying to reread the thread. Will skim through and vote I guess.

And yes, why do you think I'm mafia rad?


This caught my eye. He says something along the lines of "day ends in two hours." So, he comes into the game almost right after Arcto is forced out of the election to "Skim Read" over the thread again...I feel that the time he picked (two hours until deadline) and the fact that the 'Election Block' ability of whatever we assume is the mafia equiv. to District Attorney had to have happened within two hours of the day ending.


Note: He also seems to have to "speed read" to catch up on alot of things, yet is always present when his name is called into question.

So I would say Comprissent and Refallen.


Five Players to Save:
Arctocod, GiygaS, Radfield, Zentor, and ProfBA.

Reasoning:
GiygaS, Zentor are pretty much confirmed town.

Arctocod, in my eyes, is leaning extremely town. I feel you are in this same section, Radfield.

ProfBA because we voted him in as pardoner, and I feel that if he was mafia, you and Arcto would be able to catch him near the end, and we voted him into Pardoner for a reason. Since he is unable to pardon himself, if you 5 were remaining, I think it would end in the towns favor.

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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 00:35 GMT
#1428
On December 16 2011 09:19 nyczbrandon wrote:
Refallen looks more suspicous of the two, but both havent posted much I can use. I think they might both be town.
Refallen has posted that he though that ProfB might be scum for random lynch, but later on posted that he did not look like it much anymore.
TotallyNotTwoPeople hasn't done much except going hard on Mr.Zentor for some reason.


What the hell kind of analysis is this? Your either not trying, or really like lurking.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#1452
@evantrees. Sure. It doesn't matter; I think you can spin it either way.

He uses his ability with a little under 2 Hours left to use it, than posts how he "thought he had two hours remaining to put votes in and has to make a hasty decision.

Regardless, I think it's funny how you came to his defense rather forcefully, no? Also, you seem pretty accurate with the timing on the ability. How did you know it was used roughly around 2 hours and 15 minutes, to the minute? Maybe a scum player said "Use that ability, there is only 15 minutes left" and it stuck in your mind?
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 02:50 GMT
#1474
It's funny, because your logic, to me, is terribly flawed. Lynching lurkers *is* bad, because it wastes potential positive scummy players. You want to lurk so you can survive to day 2? Well, it's Day2. So post some analysis.

Maybe evantrees will come to your rescue.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 17:21 GMT
#1525
@Sheth, I will be voting for Arctocod tonight for the election. I feel he is town, and I think that he will be able to benefit the people the most as of right now.

I also think a 3rd candidate would be a good choice, but not at the loss of time deciding on who to lynch. My vote is still Comprissent, but it might change depending on what the day brings.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#1528
On December 17 2011 02:15 Refallen wrote:
I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.


Why would we need ProfBA to use his pardon as a way to prove innocence? We voted him in as the pardoner. Nothing is saying he isn't the mafia alignment though.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 20:33 GMT
#1595
Just wondering, i'm assuming Palmar is under Arcto riught now?
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 20:36 GMT
#1599
Lol.

So. What did you do, Curu?
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 21:04 GMT
#1627
Alright, I'll think logically.

The power to silence is, in my opinion, anti-town. A staple to finding mafia is open discussion. Anything that shuts someone up can be considered anti-town. What point would there be for a town role having a silencing effect? To shut up a mafia player? The town would just lynch him. There's no real reason for town to have a silence.

As for the District Attorney, let's say that he feels that someone going to be voted into the position is mafia. "Quick, someone reset the vote count so we don't give mafia more power." I could see that a lot more than I would see the usefulness of a town silencer.

That being said, ProfBA (Curu) goes absolutely apeshit when he gets pressure on him and blows his special. What the fuck? If he was is town, how is that playing to win the game at all? Conversley, if he really was town, why didn't he turn someone's mouth off that was more active, IE: Palmar, GiygaS, ect.

No, he chose the easy way out. Turn his own silence on himself so he had an excuse for not defending himself, instead of coming up with anything legitimate to do it for him. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Sheth?
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