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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 06:31 GMT
#2087
Giygas do you even read anything. Wow. Just wow. I joined in on the bandwagon for lynching ProfBA when it was only Deus + Arctocod in on it. If you want my explanation on why feel free to actually read my filter Giygas. Thats what I meant when I said that. I did also join the bandwagon for getting him elected. I still think it was the smart way to work, and that got him lynched in the end. And Greymist + Jitsu were the first 2 who actually posted logical case things, I was too busy being angry at Arctocod for saying things like I'll probably post my case on him later and then claiming hes joking afterwards but never posting his full case. I like putting pressure on people, I just don't like continue'ing it without a good case or reasoning or without the person were on responding at all.

Also, Where do you think I'm pushing the lynch of Greymist? That is almost comical, it honestly makes me shake my head at you. I was constantly saying nothing at the beginning? Dear me, how dare I not know exactly what to post at my first ever mafia game online. And then your talking about my Grave Accent to help people vote. Giygas the list of good things you've done for us this game includes, giving your power to a single player and killing a blue and then giving your other power to someone who has claimed to be roleblocked both times. Please just read and try and think man. Just think before you post. Spend a minute maybe re-read your post and then if you still think its good, post it.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#2135
On December 20 2011 17:09 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:50 Refallen wrote:
@Totally

I'm not sure yet; Sheth has been active in defending himself, and he hasn't given me outright mafia tells like Curu, so I'm looking for better lynch targets. What do you think of Sheth?

I think he has been taking posting/active = town, lurking/inactive = scum a bit too far without considering the motivations for posts enough. I would not oppose his lynch, but I would also not actively push for it.

Sheth, you mentioned you are keeping notes on people, so hopefully this request won't take you too long...you seem to enjoy calling people town, but for all the fuss you make over people not having good cases, I have yet to see you post a good case on why somebody is scum. I'd very much appreciate it if you would do so sooner rather than later.


It won't take me too long. I'm just finishing re-reading the thread now. However I'm heading out in like 2 minutes to go to the doctors. I can't break this cough and its getting worse. I'll post my best scum read when I get back. If your curious who my top 5 scum picks are while waiting, feel free to check my last few posts.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:17 GMT
#2168
I'm back and such. Deus, if you had to pick between Comprissent and Nycz who would you kill? I'm going through all 3 filters now, however I'm on Hydrocodone. So I'm literally WIFOM and I realize that sounds so terrible so your welcome to lynch me instead as I might not be too helpful pretty drugged out. Anyway I hope you don't and I hope these drugs aren't as strong as I remember them. (Its for a bad sinus infection)
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:32 GMT
#2188
On December 21 2011 06:27 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 06:26 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
optimal play to protect radfield, me and the new prankster (Greymist):
I go for PC, and watch Rad.
Rad saves Grey

one of the other green guys on my list will get shot and we continue to lynch scum
= win.

inb4 me + zeks get shot


Yep this. Radfield does his little WIFOM thing and were in awesome shape. This is really coming together!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:54 GMT
#2207
So I filtered Nycz as he was my choice for who to lynch tonight.

I don't know how to do links to individual posts perhaps someone could explain that as a side point!

Nycz is a first time player of Mafia, he doesn't want to be a sheep and wants to have his own oppinion. He then wanted to vote against either myself or MrZentor day1. He then changed his mind, and was curious why Nisani wasn't mod killed (Nisani was then made into VE our epic Godfather killer). Just to stop there, on day 1 its a bit weird to wonder why someone wasn't mod killed. I did it recently to so, mostly because our top mafia picks are those who would be modkilled I believe! So I really don't see any reason behind him saying it. Just seems scummy.

He did not like bumatlarge saying "who are you?" which is a point for him being town I believe. He bandwagoned spaackle a small point against him. He calls himself a lurker. Then on day 1 he is for lynching Cascades and safe with not lynching Comprissent. Just an interesting point based on what he flips if we lynch him. (I'd say if hes town, we lynch Cascades and if not Comprissent, just an idea!)

He then says something a long the lines that he is doing the bare minimum possible. I really don't like that line.

VE had this read on him.

On December 16 2011 08:37 nyczbrandon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Going over the filters, I've coded things by how I perceive them…black for null, red for scummy and green for townie. If I'm mistaken (like, if something is really null that I've called scummy), let me know…workin' on my GAME bro!

MarserBlood
Opening post doesn't say much. Basically says "I don't know who to elect or lynch"
Decides who to elect, not sure who to lynch.
Zeks isolation analysis. Cites that he chose Zeks because he was "one of the suspicious persons," but finds his contributions satisfactory and chooses to vote MrZentor because of "a scummy post" he made, and lack of "obvious scum" to vote. Also states aversion to lynching lurkers for obvious reasons (no info, probably town, etc.)
Here and here he states suspicion that Mafia was behind the removal of Palmogism from the electoral running. Also "congratulates the doc" in dismaying over the loss of a blue. But taken with wanting to talk about something at night, I still get a null read from these posts.
Here I can't tell if he's trying to appear pro-town or trying to maintain a productive atmosphere in town, so again…null.
Soft-defends Radfield from an attack by risk.nuke.

Verdict: Null leaning Town.

nyczbrandon
Notes his inexperience. You only get one freebie guy.
Short response to Spaackle saying he should think for himself.
Uh oh… another appeal to his newbishness… He also comments on Zeks, saying he was suspicious before, but because he called out Sheth for a perceived contradiction….what? He's not suspicious anymore? He doesn't say. But he does say that he'll vote for MrZentor or Sheth. Sheth I assume for the 'contradiction', and Zentor because he "seems to change votes a lot." I don't know, it seems to me like a raw-newbie wouldn't consider indecision as a scum-tell. Possibly help from outside sources? His scum-buddies? I DON'T KNOW BRO!
Here is something interesting. A raw-newbie asking about a modkill for not voting. I mean, okay, it's a valid question from anyone who read the OP…but this seems to indicate that he did NOT read the OP. Curiouser and curiouser.

Verdict: Newb-Scum Lean


The reason i didn't vote for Sheth or Zentor because seemed like majority of people were bandwagoning Spaackle so I did as well. It was like last minute so I wasn't sure what to do. Also I responded to Zentor when he asked me why I said he was changing his votes a lot. I thought I saw him doing this and apoligized to him for wrongfully doubting him.

The reason I asked for modkill, because I think I remember Sheth posting that Nisani was the only person to not have voted for lynch.


In the end I think hes just a new player who ended up getting mafia with some other new players and ProfBA. I do think he is very likely scum and would be happy to vote him off first and use his flip on choosing between the others we'd like to vote off. It gives us another piece to the puzzle and I think were in good shape.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#2210
As a side point, I'm obviously ok any of the 3 Deus listed this is just my choice :D!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#2212
I'll switch to you Grey, and Deus I'd switched to you a bit before I read that! Will just switch to Grey so he can get the second job and switch back if needed.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:59 GMT
#2217
Kk lol
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 23:26 GMT
#2232
On December 21 2011 07:02 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Announcement:

we don't lynch nyczbrandon today!!!

You may chose between Cascades and Comprissent

I don't know why you guys do that! There is nothing favouring nyczbrandon over the other two players.
:-(


I don't get this. I think we should lynch him honestly. I'm keeping my vote on him, I'll read through Comprissent's filter in a second though I geuss and decide for sure if I want to switch or not. Would you care to say why you don't want him lynched?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 23:30 GMT
#2234
On December 21 2011 08:29 GreYMisT wrote:
I prefer Cascades over comprissent atm, unless radfield or deus can tell me why they favor comp.


They havn't really told me why they don't want NYCZ either. Who would you have killed if Deus / TNTP hadn't said anything?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 01:51 GMT
#2237
Heres the filer of Comprissent in case anyone is interested.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=108528

Heres the filter for NYCZBrandon, my vote as well for those curious.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684

And here is the filter for Cascades.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=53202
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 02:18 GMT
#2245
I posted my case on NYCZBrandon and I'm sticking with it. If someone other then Cascades / Comprissent magically gets above everyone in voting, then I'll switch to one of those two. (Unless its Brandon ofc!)
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 03:45 GMT
#2265
On December 21 2011 12:22 Radfield wrote:
I shouldn't need to say this, but vigilantes should be firing tonight. We have about 8 players who could all die, and I would not be particularly saddened.

Cwave
Sheth
nyczbrandon
Jitsu
Marserreplacement
cascades
refallen

pew pew


I support this message too.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 03:55 GMT
#2270
Huh... Thats painful.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 04:04 GMT
#2272
Grey, Now I recommend we look through these people next

Refallen
Cwave
Cascades
Jaj22

and see who we want to lynch tomorrow. As weird as it is that 2 of the 3 people we were considering last night turning up town, I still don't think it means the others have a less chance to be mafia. I think this just astronomically ups the chances that one of these 4 or even two are or even three of them are the mafia left. Up for filtering 2 of them tonight Grey ?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 04:04 GMT
#2273
I should include Jitsu and TNTP as well, would you care to pick 3 Grey?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 04:08 GMT
#2276
K, I'll venture into Cwave.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 04:30 GMT
#2282
Wow, after reading through Cwaves posts I'm really impressed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=232648 <- His Filter

He consistently is using pretty good logic and not letting the veterans over power him. He isn't really posting too much information and I'd like to see his top 3 reads, but he brings up a good point that Deus-Ex has a Scumranklist.


On December 21 2011 06:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Okay, time for a short summary:

1. Cascades is my scumread number 1 followed by
2. MarserBlood now jaj22
3. nyczbrandon
_____

I think I saw some reasonable town behaviour from every other player in this game.
Especially:

Myself
10. zeks was the first player who pointed out that Curu is scummy because he lied/was lazy. That would be an extremely strange move towards his veteran scumbuddy, if he were in fact scum.
14. GiygaS see Actros filter and his blue role etc. if noone else can perform this he's town
19. Radfield obviously
15. evantrees unlikely that there are two of this kind in the scumteam
3. GreYMisT medic without counterclaim
11. MrZentor dayextenstion role... pretty protown. If noone else can perform this he's likely town
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople attacked curu very early. townfeeling, no real evidence
18. Jitsu town-feeling no real evidence
12. risk.nuke town-feeling no real evidence
22. Liquid`Sheth town-feeling no real evidence

Null:
8. Refallen
5. Comprissent
9. Cwave
these guys just look a little bit better than the three suspects above.

_______

tonights plan:
I get elected as PO, I watch Radfield for sure to save him
Greymist gets elected as Prankster. he's almost confirmed.



Thats the list so thanks for posting it Deus. Could you please give a little more reasoning on those bottom 6(now bottom 4) please though? I'd like to hear more from you. Cwave actually put up his list before Deus as well, and it after checking it seems Deus pretty much just had the same list and had a few words different. I hope Deus' came from his own source because then it means we have a much better chance that those were worried about are people we really should be worried about.

Also while writing this Deus posted again. I completely agree that Cascades is a great choice for lynch, but I'd like to hear your case on him.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 04:41 GMT
#2285
Deus, read my post please!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 21 2011 04:56 GMT
#2287
Jitsu if your still around, please read Cwaves filter and give me your thoughts! Or do it in the morning please!!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
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