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i mean honestly i can PBPA against you all fucking day. i went 50 pages with someone on day 1 of a game once. but in THIS case, it will do nothing but make shit more murky and then people will do the "feel good" vote and sheep vote annul, again. so i will just provide two nice nuggets for people to see and read. consider this a "closing argument" of sorts -- even though i am sure there will be more to come tomorrow.
ANNUL'S "CLOSING ARGUMENT" FOR THE PROSECUTION
FIRST, vaderseven legitimately argued in one of his first posts against me here that he doesn't think i'm a jack and that he thinks i am a mafia one shot day vig. when i provided multiple pieces of evidence showing how this is obviously untrue and how it would be statistically impossible for me to pull out of my ass the list of powers that we both have (with the exception of the BP v. vet dichotomy), he backpedals and tries to skirt the issue. but this is the MAIN CRUX of his entire case against me. the fact that he tried this at all indicates desperation and the execution of it can only be described in the way i did before: throwing the entire pot of pasta at the wall and hoping at least one strand sticks. this is what reds do.
SECOND, the entire framework of focusing on the "option 1" thing is rooted in the theory that i had to have been lying about my abilities, and because of not actually having the abilities, i "slipped" by saying i used a power i couldnt' have used, thus meaning i "lied" about my role. this only works out in the end if i actually did turn out to be lying about my role. however, i provided evidence where i claimed mason before he ever did (something he admits exists for jacks), i claimed medic before he ever did (something he also admits exists for jacks), i had day vig like he did (imagine that), and we both have two roles that are very clearly self-defense, but one tailored for town (BP) and one tailored for mafia (vet). in other words, because there is no doubt that i am a jack and that i do have medic powers, the actual offensive point behind this argument is moot. the fact that he continues to use this also shows desperation and subterfuge. this is what reds do.
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On December 14 2011 20:05 TruthBringer wrote: It just doesn't make any sense that someone who could very easily and concisely say option 3, would instead say option 1.
so it is your belief that i am NOT a jack?
because the only way this is relevant whatsoever is if you think i am somehow lying about the abilities i have. but because i AM a jack, who knows very well what powers he has, do you honestly believe that i would seriously claim that i used a self-defense power on somebody else?
furthermore, apparently v7's order IS different than mine lol
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what a retarded comment
you are definitely red, just like v7. all along.
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either way, ITS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
unless you wish to stand by your initial claim that i am not a jack? you really, reaaaally wanted that one to stick
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what a cop out reply.
see, even now he is attempting that flawed, failed line of reasoning.
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says the "roleblock immune medic" lol -- of course you think this, you're mafia alongside v7.
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says the guy who has done nothing but tunnel me from day 1
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i love how so many people instavote without ever providing their reasoning
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there are 16 players left. the OP isnt updated night 3 kills.
today is likely MYLO. hence why i woke up and started playing offense
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typical v7 lying right there
once again you indicate v7's lies and side with him. you must be one of the 6 as well
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On December 15 2011 07:50 Toadesstern wrote: So if it comes down to which of you two is mafia I'm clearly going to say it's you because V7 is way more townie.
im pretty fucking good at this game. dont you think i knew this already?
and since i knew this already, why the fuck would i make the play i am making if i were mafia? clearly the only rational explanation for my play is the knowledge that its MYLO, so if i die the game is over anyway... so there is no more fear, nothing to lose.
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On December 15 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote: Basically if we lynch annul town loses.
FTFY
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KJ: do you think it likely that v7 and i are both town despite us having 3/4 the same powers but our self-defense power is different?
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you seem to be perfectly awake
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On December 15 2011 08:38 Lanaia wrote: I'm back, and I am not going to lynch V7 today as I've had a town read on him for ages.
then pick someone else. picking me is game over.
i need 8/9 of the other towns to vote with me or we lose. the mafia wont be voting their own dudes.
you like hyshes more? we can hit him today instead.
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vaderseven, hyshes, sandroba, drazerk, mattchew, toad
any of these = good to kill. not me.
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lanaia is clearly town. KJ is clearly town. refallen is clearly town. truthbringer... meh. probably town.
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On December 15 2011 09:08 Lanaia wrote: I'm clearly town to you? The hell... I find that weird. Also, annul, why is toad scum when he protected you the night you were hit?
yes. your play so far has been outside the range of passive-aggressive that mafia players play inside. you have been playing very passively so far.
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you are outside the middle zone.
also, vader is scum and has medic powers. who says mafia cant have a full medic?
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what got me off on toad was how he bought vader's play so easily when it makes absolutely no sense. he acts real town and shit until he realizes now is the time he needs to capitalize on his towncred, since mislynch is game over.
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