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On December 11 2011 04:48 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 22:41 hyshes wrote:
I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar.
##vote annul No no no no no. I will not lynch Palmar as I believe Zeph's claim. Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:20 Toadesstern wrote:On December 10 2011 21:50 Drazerk wrote:
for argument's sake and confirming both palmar / refallen. I protected sandroba last night so refallen has to be a medic. the fuck? Sandroba? I'm going to put this in caps to make sure you get what I'm talking about: SANDROBA? wtf was that supposed to do? It's not a question of 3 medics but a question of 2 medics. Our now claimed medic said he did not (!) protect annul n1, therefore we have to have 2 medics if annul's claim is right. Drazerks medic claim is still bullshit and there is no way his claim is viable. Why do you think that Drazerk's claim is bullshit? Why are you assuming that there are only two medics in the setup? It's technically possible there's a third out there. Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 04:04 annul wrote:
oh hey also palmar could be the godfather too. that would make sense to make him the GF after day 1 play. so zeph could be telling the truth and still palmar could be red.
many ways to go from here. But we don't even know for sure that we have a godfather or that it's chosen, do we? (or is it an unwritten required rule on TL?) I'm voting annul.
scumslip?
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On December 11 2011 04:57 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 04:48 Lanaia wrote:On December 10 2011 22:41 hyshes wrote:
I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar.
##vote annul No no no no no. I will not lynch Palmar as I believe Zeph's claim. On December 10 2011 23:20 Toadesstern wrote:On December 10 2011 21:50 Drazerk wrote:
for argument's sake and confirming both palmar / refallen. I protected sandroba last night so refallen has to be a medic. the fuck? Sandroba? I'm going to put this in caps to make sure you get what I'm talking about: SANDROBA? wtf was that supposed to do? It's not a question of 3 medics but a question of 2 medics. Our now claimed medic said he did not (!) protect annul n1, therefore we have to have 2 medics if annul's claim is right. Drazerks medic claim is still bullshit and there is no way his claim is viable. Why do you think that Drazerk's claim is bullshit? Why are you assuming that there are only two medics in the setup? It's technically possible there's a third out there. On December 11 2011 04:04 annul wrote:
oh hey also palmar could be the godfather too. that would make sense to make him the GF after day 1 play. so zeph could be telling the truth and still palmar could be red.
many ways to go from here. But we don't even know for sure that we have a godfather or that it's chosen, do we? (or is it an unwritten required rule on TL?) I'm voting annul. scumslip?
Not even.
We as in EVERYONE IN THE GAME.
Not a scumslip.
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On December 11 2011 04:47 vaderseven wrote:Ugh. Annul, you are squirming. Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 14:31 annul wrote:
mason means PM rights with a person. alignment is irrelevant. if i use mason on someone i get to PM them for one cycle, nothing more. Is it day or night. Super important. It IS specific.
"one entire day/night cycle"
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and of course i am squirming. for the second time now palmar is trying to tunnel me. i can only play defense. last time i escaped by claiming. this time nobody seems to care that i'm a blue and they want me dead anyway. its retarded but what else am i supposed to do?
yesterday i could sit on my ass wiknowing that i had the card in my pocket to pull out if i needed to to survive. today what else is there for me to do? now i HAVE to try to survive.
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On December 11 2011 07:50 annul wrote:
and of course i am squirming. for the second time now palmar is trying to tunnel me. i can only play defense. last time i escaped by claiming. this time nobody seems to care that i'm a blue and they want me dead anyway. its retarded but what else am i supposed to do?
yesterday i could sit on my ass wiknowing that i had the card in my pocket to pull out if i needed to to survive. today what else is there for me to do? now i HAVE to try to survive.
To be honest you should of let yourself die yesterday if you was town. You basically killed town discussion by staying alive.
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On December 11 2011 08:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 07:50 annul wrote:
and of course i am squirming. for the second time now palmar is trying to tunnel me. i can only play defense. last time i escaped by claiming. this time nobody seems to care that i'm a blue and they want me dead anyway. its retarded but what else am i supposed to do?
yesterday i could sit on my ass wiknowing that i had the card in my pocket to pull out if i needed to to survive. today what else is there for me to do? now i HAVE to try to survive. To be honest you should of let yourself die yesterday if you was town. You basically killed town discussion by staying alive.
that's against the rules in some games and if he really is town than a no-lynch is (according to the coach who pm'ed last game) better than a 100% townie-lynch even if the discussion get's problematic.
I'm still waiting for that post V7 wanted to make 
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I have been warned, I cant discuss my abilities anymore.
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Well I cant discuss the PM anymore which is what I was warned for.
I didn't know I was crossing that line at all so I am just gonna avoid that discussion.
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the mods are making some really questionable calls this game ;\
nothing you said breaks any rules whatsoever. "be specific about the ability you claim to have" is not at all violating any rule. you can say "my role PM says X" and as long as you do not actually post the PM or screenshot or something, you are fine.
in any case, any more traps or tricks you wanna throw my way before you realize im not lying?
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On December 11 2011 08:22 annul wrote:
the mods are making some really questionable calls this game ;\
nothing you said breaks any rules whatsoever. "be specific about the ability you claim to have" is not at all violating any rule. you can say "my role PM says X" and as long as you do not actually post the PM or screenshot or something, you are fine.
in any case, any more traps or tricks you wanna throw my way before you realize im not lying?
I think you arent lieing and what you said about that rule is what i have always understood. Its not my game though so its not my place to make rules.
I don't know how to pass on my feelings about your not being scum at this point.
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Annul, who do you think we should lynch?
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i dont know anymore. a lot of these claims make me confused. i never want to lynch claimed targets until i can disprove it somehow. and so my list of desired dead is full of people claimed or "confirmed" town by other claimers.
i liked the refallen wagon from yesterday. so either he or drazerk probably. there is still another medic out there who saved me if neither of them will claim to have saved me night 1. JOAT has (something) that protects us at night but it was not used night 1, i asked and was told very specifically it was a medic save. so there is a third medic out there which means its highly likely one of these two is lying.
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and by "i never want to lynch claimed targets" i mean shit like medics, cops, etc. not "floridas" lol
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OK that was clarified and I apologize to any mod/host that thinks I was trying to break that rule, I was not!
Annul has shown VERY much so that he has the exact same role that I do. I won't be voting for annul even it is to avoid a no lynch.
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On December 11 2011 09:22 vaderseven wrote:
OK that was clarified and I apologize to any mod/host that thinks I was trying to break that rule, I was not!
Annul has shown VERY much so that he has the exact same role that I do. I won't be voting for annul even it is to avoid a no lynch.
do you have someone else to vote? I'm trusting you this time with annul and I think we need another viable option to vote.
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alright.
i am voting drazerk. if you look at his filter for like all of day 1 he goes NUTTTTTTSSSSS hard on palmar. pushing him even more than i did. and then out of nowhere day 2 he stops and switches gears. he says he medic saved sandroba night 2 (???) who is doing absolutely nothing but popping in with one liners against me and going afk for another 24 hours... what a safe claim to make by someone who wont likely see it to counterclaim or care, since sandroba has been tunneling me and sheeping palmar from the get go...
you have great things like this:
On December 06 2011 02:49 Drazerk wrote:
Shoot Palmar Lynch V7 Win
On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates?
and then out of nowhere
On December 06 2011 05:38 Drazerk wrote:
Also I now think V7 is town despite his stupidity
and his mind changed so hard that...
On December 07 2011 17:28 Drazerk wrote:
I protected V7
the same shit happened with palmar... his entire filter from day 1 is pushing palmar in some capacity and then OUT OF NOWHERE, you get this:
On December 07 2011 18:13 Drazerk wrote:
Oh yeah.
I changed my mind. I made a mistake yesterday and I am not repeating it.
then you get onto me. and push me hardcore.
i think you try to find the easy wagon and jump on it. i also do not think you are a medic. i doubted your claim from the beginning. i know either 1. there are three medics (almost certainly not true) or 2. you or refallen is lying. it's probably you, since at least he claimed to save palmar and palmar says he took a hit (i think?).
##vote drazerk
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well I would have suggested someone else but I'm not going to ignore a chance to lynch Drazerk
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I do agree that Drazerk is suspicious. A roleblock-immune medic is veeeeery convenient, and he is STILL alive past two nights; That's something I find to be extremely odd.
There is also the thing that he protects sandroba night 1 out of all players and vaderseven night 2, and neither actually got targeted despite being valid targets(sandroba is a great player, and decent n1 target; vaderseven has very little chance of being actual mafia, and is a blue).
annul also makes a few valid points towards Drazerk; which is something I didn't want to say. The decision of shooting anyone when asking 45min before the lynch was ridiculous IMO. But if anything, I'm willing to believe town is actually killing itself at this point instead of some evil mafia plans.
And for some odd reason, Drazerk makes sense. But the thing is: what if annul is wrong and Drazerk is actually right? x_x
I need a few more opinions on that.
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On December 11 2011 10:52 Zephirdd wrote:
I do agree that Drazerk is suspicious. A roleblock-immune medic is veeeeery convenient, and he is STILL alive past two nights; That's something I find to be extremely odd.
There is also the thing that he protects sandroba night 1 out of all players and vaderseven night 2, and neither actually got targeted despite being valid targets(sandroba is a great player, and decent n1 target; vaderseven has very little chance of being actual mafia, and is a blue).
annul also makes a few valid points towards Drazerk; which is something I didn't want to say. The decision of shooting anyone when asking 45min before the lynch was ridiculous IMO. But if anything, I'm willing to believe town is actually killing itself at this point instead of some evil mafia plans.
And for some odd reason, Drazerk makes sense. But the thing is: what if annul is wrong and Drazerk is actually right? x_x
I need a few more opinions on that.
About what could Drazerk be right?
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On December 11 2011 10:22 annul wrote:alright. i am voting drazerk. if you look at his filter for like all of day 1 he goes NUTTTTTTSSSSS hard on palmar. pushing him even more than i did. and then out of nowhere day 2 he stops and switches gears. he says he medic saved sandroba night 2 (???) who is doing absolutely nothing but popping in with one liners against me and going afk for another 24 hours... what a safe claim to make by someone who wont likely see it to counterclaim or care, since sandroba has been tunneling me and sheeping palmar from the get go... you have great things like this: Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates? and then out of nowhere Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:38 Drazerk wrote:
Also I now think V7 is town despite his stupidity and his mind changed so hard that... the same shit happened with palmar... his entire filter from day 1 is pushing palmar in some capacity and then OUT OF NOWHERE, you get this: Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 18:13 Drazerk wrote:
Oh yeah.
I changed my mind. I made a mistake yesterday and I am not repeating it. then you get onto me. and push me hardcore. i think you try to find the easy wagon and jump on it. i also do not think you are a medic. i doubted your claim from the beginning. i know either 1. there are three medics (almost certainly not true) or 2. you or refallen is lying. it's probably you, since at least he claimed to save palmar and palmar says he took a hit (i think?). ##vote drazerk
It's not scummy to change your mind. Your also taking things out of context stop that.
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