Student Mafia (New/Newish players welcome) - Page 6

On December 15 2011 03:41 xtfftc wrote:

It depends. On Day 2 we had just one case and very limited discussion, so a switch that leads to a townie lynch would have been blatantly obvious. On Day 1 we had a few cases, so a switch could have been masked much better.

As for bigger games, last minute switches almost always benefit mafia because there's more people voting and it's hard to distinguish between the lurking mafia and newbie townies.

On December 15 2011 04:18 ey215 wrote:


Thanks for the answer. Could you answer my other question as well please?

"Do you still believe I am mafia and if so/not what has changed about your opinion over the last couple of days?"

On December 15 2011 04:17 xtfftc wrote:

I still do. You've hardly given any opinions since I stopped tunneling you

(with the only real contribution being you mostly disagreeing/somewhat agreeing with layabout's initial posts on me and Tunkeg, but this is not enough - and it would be wise for the two of you to disagree in the thread anyway)

, so the only way I could change my opinion is if someone else acts in such a scummy fashion that leaves no doubt.
Let's go quickly through the list of possibilities:

BH - town. We all agree, I think.
Tunkeg - town. He hasn't contributed a lot but it's enough for a good read. I'm sure that if he was mafia, we would have found reasons to put him under more pressure.
Velinath - as much as I hate to say it, town. I would love to call him mafia but it makes no sense. Him tunneling on me so ferociously while committing many factual mistakes fits his play: he focuses on just one player (first it was BKE and now it's me) and he builds up his case as he goes, so he gets things wrong. Studying for his finals has had impact on his analysis as well. And even from a purely theoretical perspective... why would mafia need him to go after me like this when he wasn't a main target? Bussing layabout would have made much more sense than going all out after me.
Bluelightz - the only player I can imagine being mafia if you flip town. But he's a lurker, and lurkers simply ruin the game because they are always a gamble.

Remember Day 1 and me arguing against everyone about policies in general and Lynch All Lurkers in particular? How I kept saying that it sounds good in theory but in reality it doesn't work? We lynched Bbyte based on the policy but this didn't scare the others into contributing. Bluelightz is the latest example and we can't do much about it. If he doesn't care the post, he doesn't care if he gets lynched as well. So he's putting the town into a very shitty situation. If he's town, he's way too lazy - and if he's mafia, he's playing way too dirty. I have no ideas but hoping for a DT to check him - but we don't even know if we have a DT and whether he'd be able to do it before he dies. So it just sucks.

I must say that I feel that the questions you've been asking as of late have been very pro-town. Although this is also good mafia play (asking good questions and appearing to contribute without puting yourself out there as much), it helps town. If you're really not mafia, you should back it up with more analysis because the game is almost over, one way or another.

On December 15 2011 10:16 Forumite wrote:
Tense! I wonder how he´ll flip.

On December 15 2011 11:06 Blazinghand wrote:


Which would you prefer, and why?

On December 15 2011 16:08 Velinath wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, I guess I can roleclaim now. I was the DT - hence my inexplicable tunnelling on xtfftc last day (I investigated him). It wasn't the best play, I suppose, but it was the best I could do with what time I had the last couple of days.

This was also the reason I was suddenly so very very confident that ey215 was town for the last two days. I felt the suspicions on him were somewhat well-founded, but him coming up town meant that I could at least try and give something that I could refer back to later in the thread.

Meh. Well played, all. A little bit unsatisfying conclusion, but c'est la vie I suppose.