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On November 13 2011 14:12 Curu wrote: Better for you if you're Mafia! Oh hey we no lynched because I wasn't around? EU time bro!!! I have never been Mafia without you btw. You are such a shitty influence ^.^ | ||
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says the guy who is not even lvl 30 and thinks bot lane is too hard ^.^ | ||
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against those high lvl opponents. Sorry for having doubted you but not everyonce could do that to lvl 8 guys ! | ||
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On November 14 2011 21:54 Radfield wrote: We're starting tonight at 02:00 GMT (+00:00) Deadline at 3 am is actually not as bad as in some other games ^.^ | ||
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On November 15 2011 01:47 wherebugsgo wrote: Start time is excellent; all my HW is due and by that time I will be ready to relax lolol. Deutsch exam in an hour, see you guys onthe other side! Hopefully by the time I'm back and exhausted there will be a mafia game to play/troll ICH BIN EINE BRATWURST! did i do that right? | ||
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On November 15 2011 05:55 GMarshal wrote: vier fünf sechs sieben, wo ist denn mein ball geblieben? Sorry I do not know what happened to your balls  | ||
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On November 13 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote: lolll or in my case: "wtf I wasn't here that lynch was terrible" I can't remember a day 1 lynch I liked. I don't think such a thing exists. ## Vote WBG | ||
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On November 15 2011 12:46 jaybrundage wrote: So if we are not lynching WBG then who do yall suggest we lynch prplhz I suggest that you read every guide available on TL or actually look how other games are played before you post again in here. Thats not meant as an insult but someone playing that badly in their first game is very hard to read and in the end will only hurt town. So if you are anything other than red I would suggest you put some work in, please  So guys lets start playing ! On November 15 2011 10:18 hiro protagonist wrote: No its not. Palmar is spot on about WBG's play. His overly aggressive play does not create good town atmosphere IMO. I would vote on him just on that alone. I would hope that the threat of a meta lynch would change his style. On November 15 2011 10:49 hiro protagonist wrote: Im not trolling I was sort of trolling when I voted Wbg, question is why would you not actually vote for him if you seriously think that? You Scum? On November 15 2011 10:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Guys guys guys. Did I really just read palmar call for a lynch of a player who hasn't posted in the thread? And even worse, people are listening to him? -_- Are we stll pregame trolling? Apparantly we are or you would have made a post with actual content and getting us on track instead of .. well.. that | ||
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On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote: I know you where trolling Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot! Whoa how about you start answering my question instead of ignoring it ? ^.^ What I said before was really not a big deal, just some light teasing but you specificly said you are not trolling. Now if you are not, why would you not answer my question instead of giving us the usual groundrules bullshit? "Lets start this off on the right foot " as in lets ignore what has been said before? On November 15 2011 18:14 hiro protagonist wrote: How bought this, tell my why its bad to bring up lynch based on logic? How about discussing the merits of such a lynch? A side affect of "Palmars plan" stirs discussion, how is that bad? In your two post so far, you have only commented on other players post, without providing any content of you own. And why are you so ultra defensive O.o Prl asked you a completely sensible question and you shout at him instead of discussing which you said was one goal of your post on bugs. Thats basicly contradicting yourself. Prl as well as everybody else has to provide content, of course but that does not mean you have the right to shout at him when you don't provide content especially since I specificly asked you a question . Oh and just to be clear I think it would be absolutely retarded to lynch Bugs like that. This is a mini, we really can't afford to shoot someone based on meta alone. I know wbg can be a bit difficult, but he is not a bad player. Brilliant Idea : Lets see him post first, analyze his posts and if he is scum we make a case that proves it. I know this concept seems strange but I feel like we should try it out . | ||
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Palmar will you stop if I say pretty please? This is a mini and the thread is not going so fast. You said its very clear for everyone to see if you are Scum or not. That may be the case if you provided something to go on , which you are not doing and as you know thats not the exactly the greatest townplay. You rolling over again cause Scum is boring? | ||
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On November 16 2011 03:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Wow, this is going really slow. Here's something to get people talking: If you could pick one player (Not yourself) to make mayor (decides day 1 lynch + a couple night's worth of protection), who would it be and why? I would personally pick MZ. He's level headed, and a decent scum-hunter, so I don't think he'd do anything crazy with a day 1 lynch, and the protection would come in handy with letting him live until later when he could scum-hunt more effectively. Back to you guys. Or you could talk about the game. As in waht you are proposing that does not really help us but instead wastes a ton of time. Maybe MZ would make a great Mayor in general, but his only post was shit. Why not talk about what is already there and how do you think your suggestion could help in any way? In my opinion it does not get anything going because it in no way puts pressure on Scum or forces them to reveal information Turned around it also does not help establishing townies either. For example I respect Sandro a lot (because he helps me with my dwarf fortress ! ) and he is a good Scumhunter. But I could say he would make a great mayor if I was Town OR Scum because it is not related to this game and the alignments and you seem to ignore what people(in this case MZ) already did until now. At this point I actually just want to lynch the Lurker who produced the least amount of content at the end of this day. Anyone else like that Idea? | ||
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prplhz : On November 16 2011 04:54 prplhz wrote: Erandorr is on to something. You guys all suck. jaybrundage has a valid excuse but people like Mr. Wiggles and Palmar don't. Stop being derps. Your only real post was discussing a blind meta lynch and you only gave some numbers about it. Then you honestly think you can get away with that shit of a post? Palmar : If you are town please behave and play properly instead of ... this . Usually you start trying at some point as town so now would be a good time, yes? WBG ... Wiggles Really bad first(and only) post as I already stated and nothing from then on Jay Town newbie or Scum newbie? Sandro In his favor he tried to get some conversation going. BUT he did not try to do anything else to move this along and from what I have heard and seen, we should expect a lot more of someone like him Meapak Huh. I dont quite know what to make of him right now, but I figure we can give him a bit more time. I guess the fitting description would be "Not as bad as a lot of others ?" which says a lot about this game right now. Now this is on everyone except Hiro( I have to put a bit more work into that one ) The point I am trying to make is that you guys all flat out suck right now. The lesson that got hammered into my brain was that making it sure to establish yourself as town is the most important goal you have. There are 6 town players in that list I made and right now that seems very hard to believe. Lets say someone good like Sandroba is Scum. If he keeps up what he is doing right now, which is sitting there and posting something semi-useful he can get away with it because you, the other townies, give him the opportunity to do so. Right now scum can basicly sit there and keep their head down, because none of you do anything usefull at all. Same goes for Palmar. He can be very good at this game and that his play right now has not even been brought up yet startles me a little bit. Sure he is known for trolling like crazy especially early game, but that is not an excuse. Same goes for those who are known to be less strong, too. If a scum team can get away with being a tiny bit less scummy then the townies running around then you should not applaud them but shit on the town who let it happen. I will be back writing about Hiro but I feel like this had to be said first. | ||
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I think hiro is looking pretty bad right now but the way WBG argues pissed me off so much that I had to write about it . The worst part is that its a post by post analysis looking to catch scum by slips and ignoring everything else thats going on. I almost have a feeling that he just filters people and then writes his analysis that way . No its not. Palmar is spot on about WBG's play. His overly aggressive play does not create good town atmosphere IMO. I would vote on him just on that alone. I would hope that the threat of a meta lynch would change his style. First post of the game. Completely agrees with Palmar when Palmar wasn't even correct. He doesn't even agree with Palmar on why I would make a good lynch. Palmar suggests that I'd make a good lynch on the simple fact that I am difficult to read and that I am a bigger threat to town as scum rather than a benefit as town. Hiro thinks I should be lynched because he doesn't like my aggressiveness. There's a huge difference here. Most telling is the fact that hiro agrees without actually knowing what my scum play looks like. Palmar's vote hinges primarily on the assumption that my scum play is good. But Hiros point is not actually as bad as you make it sound. You are overly agressive and have destroyed games nearly by yourself (XLV comes to mind) Its not about your Scumplay for him it is about your play in general. In fact, you can even smell that hiro reacted in a way that suggests he already knows I'm town. Otherwise, why would he bring up my aggressiveness specifically when I am town on his own accord? because he is not talking about that... On November 15 2011 10:49 hiro protagonist wrote: Im not trolling Shocking. shut up On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote: I know you where trolling Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot! He says that he's going to take a hard stance on anyone who derails positive discussion, and that good posting involves posts with content. The very post in which this is said has no content. Definition of hypocrisy. This point is debatable. If you are really bad at this game (and hiro never proved differently) its actually possble that this post was made by a townie. That you missed the really scummy parts is kind of funny but I will get to that when I write about Hiro myself On November 15 2011 18:14 hiro protagonist wrote: How bought this, tell my why its bad to bring up lynch based on logic? How about discussing the merits of such a lynch? A side affect of "Palmars plan" stirs discussion, how is that bad? In your two post so far, you have only commented on other players post, without providing any content of you own. What's not so surprising here is that hiro doesn't understand what logic actually is. What's sad is that he thinks Palmar's vote reason was an example of good logic. Now let me ask you. If he actually thinks thats an example of good logic, doesnt that mean you are saying he is dumb. Does being dumb make him scum? Palmar's plan surely stirred discussion. And you're right hiro, it isn't bad, since you were outed by it. So thanks, Palmar. shut up The funniest part of this post is the end. Hiro gets incredibly defensive on prpl and accuses prpl of making useless posts. Once again, hypocrisy. I agree with that one a bit. On November 16 2011 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote: I tend not to answer questions about me that can be answered by reading my post  Shout at him? I was just typing 0_o. He ask a question about something I did not do. I did not place a vote on WBG. I agree that It would be dumb to try and lynch someone that has not posted yet. But whats wrong about threatening to lynch someone if they play like they did in past games that have been anti town? I got nothing against bugs, but there is nothing wrong about encouraging him to change his meta a bit for the good of this game is there? hopefully that answers your question. Okay, so first hiro says he doesn't answer questions about himself that can be read in his posts. Yet, he never actually explained why he was okay with pressuring me, but not okay with actually going one step further and being part of that pressure with a vote. Erandorr's question was perfectly valid, and very telling of hiro's alignment. Scum aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is; they tend to be cautious when cementing their thoughts with a vote. Let's keep this in mind, since it comes into play later. yeah that part is true too On November 16 2011 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote: Again, putting words in my mouth. I argued lynching Wbg if he plays like his usually overly aggressive/tunneling self. No where do I say we should blind lynch anyone. 0_o So, with that out of the way, I would like to here more from Meapak, as he is the only one that has not said something game relevant yet. Also jaybrundage, dont be shy, We know your new to the game so we wont hold it against you. tell us what you think of the other player so far ^_^ Let's also keep this in mind; note how hiro accuses sandro of putting words in his mouth. Remember that. Also what's weird is that he says he wants to hear more from Meapak, who apparently is the only one who has not said anything game relevant. Wtf? What happened to me? Did he just forget about me because Meapak became suspicious of him? what is this retarded shit that you actually just wrote down there? If he was scum and you were town why would he want to ignore another lurker to force attention away from him? The only way this makes sense is if you are actually scum and want to bus your teammate or... he forgot you? On November 16 2011 05:06 hiro protagonist wrote: How about the content in your posts before this one 0_0 ? who had more to say? Hiro responds to the accusation that his posts are useless with a counter accusation. Let's keep this in mind too. yup thats defensive On November 16 2011 05:35 hiro protagonist wrote: Did it attempt to set the tone for the day? Yes. Did it give my feelings on pointless arguing and tunneling? Yes. Does it give a framework for newer players? Yes. I know "game mechanics" type post dont reveal alinement, but that does not make them useless. Why are you trying to say otherwise? Okay, you can tell this post is total and utter bullshit just by the fact that he claims he was trying to set a framework for newer players. Newsflash: If anyone actually read the player list for this game, there is only ONE new player. Jaybrundage. Everyone else knows how to play mafia, and this cop out excuse is a total bunch of shit. Nice fail. Thats one point he is adding to make his defence stronger. Hiro is not looking good but this is no way to do an analysis. On November 16 2011 07:02 hiro protagonist wrote: No shit mafia want to look like town without actually trying to help. They also want a bad atmosphere to hide in. By saying my post is worthless, your saying that its cool to spam, argue, and tunnel, which mafia love. You are pushing pro mafia ideas. So my FoS still stands. Alright, remember how I said to keep in mind that hiro accused sandro of putting words in his mouth? Here we see hiro putting words in Meapak's mouth. Once again, blatant hypocrite. Hiro's posts, by all standards, are completely worthless. The jump from Meapak calling hiro's post useless to Meapak encouraging spam, arguing, tunneling, and pro-mafia ideas in general is incredibly illogical. It's also completely dead wrong. Its ultra defensive OMGUS. Scummy but not as harsh as you make it look On November 16 2011 07:17 hiro protagonist wrote: -__- ill be back in 24 hours Okay, good. Wait for it On November 16 2011 07:56 hiro protagonist wrote: being loud does not mean your right Meapak. I stand behind everything I said. Just because you say its worthless does not make it so. How am I to start the game then. Troll like everyone else? Im being active and contributing while some players have said next to nothing. "OMG! someone is acting pro town! he must be scum trying to fit in!" This is your logic for lynching me. WAIT WTF I THOUGHT YOU LEFT shut up At any rate, remember how hiro responded to Meapak's accusation that hiro's post was useless? Right, he accused Meapak of writing useless posts. Well, here he suggests that Meapak is throwing around baseless accusations about hiro's post quality. Well, wtf is hiro doing then, if not exactly that? Then he goes and shits himself when trying to make meapak look bad. He accuses meapak of trying to lynch a pro-town player. rofl. OMGUS. Hiro is bad at mafia. And you start repeating yourself. Scummy as hell? yeap. Confirmed Scum? Nope. On November 16 2011 08:06 hiro protagonist wrote: I want to lynch Meapak. I would love to see more/any posts from Sandroba, Palmar, Wiggles, and WBG but there on my radar too. If you were not voting for me, who would you like to lynch? This is arguably the most telling post that hiro has made the entire game. He says he wants to lynch Meapak, but does not vote him. What kind of townie does that? What kind of townie is afraid to take attention, to take heat for leading a lynch? No townie. This pretty much sums it up perfectly. What kind of Mafia player would call not voting for someone you think is supsicius the biggest scumtell a player could make in that situation? WBG. Okay this was just a rant not designed to do anything but convince people not to listen to bugs too much My own analysis will be coming up tomorrow morning its 2:30 AM and I need to get some sleep. Also Sandro Wiggles and Palmar , you guys are actually good at this game so please start doing something of value, yes? | ||
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