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Palmar, stop being a dick.
This is the only thing in your filter other than:
On November 23 2011 18:31 Palmar wrote:
State of the game:
bumatlarge - unlikely to be mafia, completely worthless atm though
As for the lynch today, Bumatlarge's post is really weird. He could have posted that at any point during the night but chose to do it right before/after the night post. Notice that he's taking a pro-stance both towards myself and LSB, who should have died that night (♥). However, it would be premature to try to lynch Bumatlarge based on his. There is a possibility he may be the mafia godfather, but at the moment I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and move on. Now that he has taken a stance with townies, I think he cannot be much of a distraction.
That's not very convincing.
I still think he's scum. Look at his voting patterns.
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Omfg this game...makes me want to pull my hair out
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STOP VOTING ROL.
You all saw how your retarded lynches based on inactivity and "lack of contribution" turned out. Drazerk, sinani, prpl all flipped town. I give RoL greater than a 90% chance to flip town. Don't push his lynch. He is not pushing a scum agenda. If he was, he wouldn't want the amount of attention he'd receive with 7 simultaneous votes.
I know that well myself, seeing as I played scum with him in the last game I played.
Palmar: I don't care if you call me stupid, I will not be attempting to read between the lines for you on why bumatlarge is town. There are like three possibilities to me, none of which I trust. I go with analysis. I think he's scum.
Nisani, chaoser, and Zephirrd should be the other main targets for today.
Forumite seems to acknowledge that my vote on him was warranted. Please play more carefully. Don't push scum agenda while appearing to harbor town motives. Otherwise, when there's no better leads we'll probably kill you.
##unvote Forumite
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I disagree 100% with everything Nisani has said this game, what do you say about that?
RoL is not scum. Try coming up with your own ideas for once. The fact that you're actually entertaining Nisani's ideas, of all people, is honestly blowing my mind right now.
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I'm not 100% sure he's scum, but I'm 100% sure he's dumb.
That's reason enough to discount his opinions. I'm 95% sure he's scum and nothing he's said so far has made sense.
You don't need to know someone is scum to ignore them. Their thoughts don't matter if they're consistently wrong. Right now, for example, yours aren't mattering for much.
I really doubt RoL is scum. Really really really doubt it. If he is actually scum then I'll probably need to get my head checked.
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On November 24 2011 08:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Wait a minute. How exactly do you figure Chaoser would have voted Prplhz? He barely even mentions him in the filter linked here. FoS Wherebugsgo
he posted it after he was replaced and then edited it out.
Someone quoted it.
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On November 24 2011 08:43 Cyber_Cheese wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Rest of post] +Day 1:
Kenpachi(14): bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Palmar, GreYMisT, risk.nuke, Tyrran, Lemonwalrus Hiroruby, sinani206, Nisani201, Cyber_Cheese
sinani206(14): chaoser (would have been on prpl day 2), GreYMisT, Lanaia, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Cyber_Cheese, risk.nuke, LSB, Tyrran, Forumite, Lemonwalrus, Zephirdd, HarbingerOfDoom, hyshes
Day 2:
prplhz (12): Forumite, Drazerk, GreYMisT, Nisani201, hyshes, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, Kibibit, Sabin010, Lanaia, xsksc, Coagulation (would have been chaoser here as vote 13)
From this vote pattern alone some of the 3 voters (such as Cyber_Cheese and GreYMisT) are less likely to be scum (though we can't rule it out)
This is on the assumption that scum would split their vote to avoid as much suspicion as possible.
This means we should focus on:
bumatlarge, nisani, chaoser/mrzentor, forumite, lanaia.
All names I think are likely to bleed red.
If I missed something, let me know.
Those requirements seem very arbitrary. Can you explain why you chose them?[/QUOTE]
It's not arbitrary, I explained it already. I know it from experience myself when I am scum; the best way to avoid suspicion is to avoid being on the same bandwagon as your scumbuddies on the same day.
Thus, you can reasonably expect some of the scum on each of the wagons, but not all of them on one. That would draw too much suspicion. So, from that, I tend to rule out most of the people who were on both Kenpachi and Sinani. They're very unlikely to be scum IMO (and behavioral tells give me more confidence in this as well, it's not just the vote pattern.)
In addition, all of the people I pointed out as having this vote pattern have pushed scum agenda far more than town agenda. They are a detriment to town and need to die; if they are townies, they will realize this and (hopefully) shape up.
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EBWODP:
On November 24 2011 08:43 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Those requirements seem very arbitrary. Can you explain why you chose them?
It's not arbitrary, I explained it already. I know it from experience myself when I am scum; the best way to avoid suspicion is to avoid being on the same bandwagon as your scumbuddies on the same day.
Thus, you can reasonably expect some of the scum on each of the wagons, but not all of them on one. That would draw too much suspicion. So, from that, I tend to rule out most of the people who were on both Kenpachi and Sinani. They're very unlikely to be scum IMO (and behavioral tells give me more confidence in this as well, it's not just the vote pattern.)
In addition, all of the people I pointed out as having this vote pattern have pushed scum agenda far more than town agenda. They are a detriment to town and need to die; if they are townies, they will realize this and (hopefully) shape up.
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I'm not parroting Palmar.
That's something scum keep saying. (aka Nisani)
Indeed if you notice, Palmar and I have opposing views on RoL.
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DCLXVI can you explain what Palmar has done that advances a scum agenda?
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I have two, Nisani and bumatlarge.
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or replace bum with Zephirrd/DCLXVI, I don't care.
Also I don't understand how people are saying he's confirmed blue. No one is confirmed anything except hyshes.
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Nisani could be town, but then again even after being hammered he doesn't give a shit about the town wincon.
I need to read the last few pages. I suggest you all look closely at Zentor, bumatlarge, Zephirrd.
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On November 25 2011 05:14 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +No, you don't.
Now, I would like you to write a big post on the current situation of the game.
Additionally, I would like you to either retract or confirm chaoser's claim that you are vanilla town. I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town. 
wtf?
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Palmar rage so cute ♥
##vote MrZentor
Sticking with my gut here, his posts have been sporadic and sucky since he subbed in. I thought chaoser was sure scum, I'm not going to drop that read anymore. Let's kill this guy, since he has no intention of furthering town agenda.
I will also support a Zephirdd lynch today.
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Alright, I'm going to go ahead and say I think Forumite is scum now.
He was completely fine with bandwagoning townies on day 1 and day 2. What he posts has never made sense at all this game. Now, he's shying away from the popular lynch targets and he's attacking Palmar for again, really stupid reasons. Actually, I can't find his reasons other than "I dislike insulting morons."
He finds that Coag, Zentor, and Zephirdd are popular lynch targets, so he's afraid of pushing them. If you find this logic tenable, Forumite, why the fuck didn't you use it on day 1 and day 2?
No one lynched for mistakes and behavior. The day 1 and day 2 lynches were based on the fact that you're all incredibly retarded. That's all there was to it. Now you try and say that behavioral analysis doesn't work?
The sad fact is that if he actually thinks what he has been doing is behavioral analysis, he might actually be a townie who straight up believes this is true. I wouldn't put it past Forumite to be that dumb, since he's proved it in the past.
##vote Forumite
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On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ?
spelled cheese wrong, mate. I agree that he is rather scummy, though.
I think we might actually be getting ahead of ourselves. So many people look like scum right now that it's really tempting to vote for them all. I have fallen into this temptation myself, seeing as I want to kill all of Zentor/Zephirdd/Forumite/Cyber_Cheese right now.
I'll leave Forumite/Cyber till another day, I suppose.
##unvote Forumite
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scum never kill me cause people always suspect me regardless of alignment lol.
I was actually surprised I got shot n1 in LoTR, and in SMG when I had a correct scumread it was the serial killer who shot me and not scum.
You can't WIFOM yourself into trying to figure out scum reads, only scum know what scum want. So, the fact that you're trying to reason this out based on what scum to do is very suspicious.
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On November 25 2011 08:23 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
scum never kill me cause people always suspect me regardless of alignment lol.
I was actually surprised I got shot n1 in LoTR, and in SMG when I had a correct scumread it was the serial killer who shot me and not scum.
You can't WIFOM yourself into trying to figure out scum reads, only scum know what scum want. So, the fact that you're trying to reason this out based on what scum to do is very suspicious. I´m always wary of WIFOM, but I think this is one of the few times where the situation was simple enough to read. We´ll know about Nisani in a few hours, but if Nisani is scum, then scum don´t mind him dying.
first part: no, you can never figure out scum motivations like that unless you are scum yourself.
second part: why thank you, captain obvious.
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On November 25 2011 08:29 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:22 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 08:12 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ? Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day. Why vote now, and not a few hours ago when I posted the analysis? Because you just voted for palmar. And as i said before, Scum DID SHOOT FOR THOSE pushing Nisani. EVERY NIGTH some one voting for Nisani got hit. How can you say they did not target those pushing for him. Shooting palmar N2 would be bad as he was obv going to be protected again, so they went for drazerk who voted twice for him. Yeah, I figured it was me voting for Palmar that triggered it. You really don´t like anyone doubting him. I´m leaning towards Drazerk being a vigihit, that would make sense with 3 nightkills rather than the 2 of N1. Even if Drazerk was a mafia hit, killing risk and Harbringer did nothing at all for Nisani, none of them voted, cared or even mentioned Nisani. There must have been better targets, targets that were on Nisani without being likely medic protects.
dude, where are you pulling this shit from?
How can you assume Drazerk was a vig hit? Why are you making unnecessary assumptions about the game and trying to use inconclusive evidence to conclude things that are very far from being concrete?
You're being incredibly dumb if you're a townie and you're shedding plenty of doubt if you're scum.
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