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On November 17 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 08:18 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 18:14 Drazerk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:33 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Calling out lurkers? Sure thing! And then we have hyshes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=132738As mentioned above, there is also Coagulation. I may very well be missing some, but hyshes and risk stood out to me since I played with them in my previous game. If we want to include people with more posts that are just all useless...well then the list becomes much longer :-) Hyshes is still very new I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post much on day one + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:31 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. yes No yes no
Elephant
There, I broke the chain, you are free to talk about useful things now.
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Sinani, please make a post of more than 3 lines that pertains to something that isn't off topic.
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the -Lanaia (Anti-vote) is just showing that Lanaia removed her anti-vote at that time. There are currently 12 votes on Ken.
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Even if we hit 14 now he doesn't die till end of day.
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Ugh so many drama queens in mafia.
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14 is the killing vote. He dead.
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On November 17 2011 09:22 chaoser wrote:
##vote bumatlarge
Reasoning please?
I've been toying with that vote since page 15 or so, but I'd like to hear why you did it.
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On November 17 2011 09:25 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 17 2011 09:22 chaoser wrote:
##vote bumatlarge Reasoning please? I've been toying with that vote since page 15 or so, but I'd like to hear why you did it. He's posted four times in total. Batman would be doing much more than that.
So you think there is a scum team out there that would put a leash on one of the most outspoken players on the forum and expect nobody to notice?
And what are your thoughts on Coag's uncharacteristic silence?
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I've already said that I thought you were town, and I still do. I'm not FoSing you, I just want to start up a dialogue on two vets that are known for being high volume posters but have been quiet thus far.
I'm not sure about Coagulation at this point...this is unlike him but I don't know if I want to jump to the conclusion he is scummy.
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(Forgot to quote, my last post is directed at chaoser)
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##Unvote: Lanaia
She made a mistake, but I don't think it was a scum mistake. And besides, I'd like to see Kenpachi's flip before we decide what to do with her.
##Vote: Palmar
He has been pushing a moronic case against chaoser since the beginning and most of you are eating it up. When the Lanaia/kenpachi thing came up, he threw his vote their way haphazardly, my guess because they are both town (although I still have some hope that KP was scum) and he just wants to make more town lynches day 1. All the while he has been pushing this chaoser lynch as a sure thing. If we lynch chaoser and he flips green or blue, I want palmar dead the next day for sure. He wants chaoser dead because as he said himself chaoser is a good player for town. He has built a case against him on LAL so he can hide behind policy when he is proven wrong about chaoser when chaoser flips.
##Vote: bumatlarge
Be the batman that this steamship deserves.
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On November 17 2011 10:00 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:59 chaoser wrote:##Vote: Palmar
He has been pushing a moronic case against chaoser since the beginning and most of you are eating it up. When the Lanaia/kenpachi thing came up, he threw his vote their way haphazardly, my guess because they are both town (although I still have some hope that KP was scum) and he just wants to make more town lynches day 1. All the while he has been pushing this chaoser lynch as a sure thing. If we lynch chaoser and he flips green or blue, I want palmar dead the next day for sure. He wants chaoser dead because as he said himself chaoser is a good player for town. He has built a case against him on LAL so he can hide behind policy when he is proven wrong about chaoser when chaoser flips. His entire case on me is literally built on the fact that I somehow "Lied" when I clearly did not. That's the one fact he keeps bringing up over and over again. What a joke. Your not getting voted because of LaL, it's because you're scummy.
Go back and read Palmar's campaign to get chaoser lynched. It was built around LAL and him 'not playing like he usually does' as if everyone has exactly one method of playing mafia. If we lynch both chaoser and kenpachi day 1 and they both flip green i'm going to....well I'll just be upset.
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Look at the last few pages for the reasoning, bumatlarge was a major point of discussion in most of my recent posts. This will at least put pressure on him to post. And even in the 'reasoning please?' post I go on to say that I've been thinking about voting that way for a while now.
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On November 17 2011 10:15 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:12 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Look at the last few pages for the reasoning, bumatlarge was a major point of discussion in most of my recent posts. This will at least put pressure on him to post. And even in the 'reasoning please?' post I go on to say that I've been thinking about voting that way for a while now. ...I just looked, I'm not seeing it. Quote it please?
On November 17 2011 09:27 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:25 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 17 2011 09:22 chaoser wrote:
##vote bumatlarge Reasoning please? I've been toying with that vote since page 15 or so, but I'd like to hear why you did it. He's posted four times in total. Batman would be doing much more than that. So you think there is a scum team out there that would put a leash on one of the most outspoken players on the forum and expect nobody to notice? And what are your thoughts on Coag's uncharacteristic silence?
On November 17 2011 09:32 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I've already said that I thought you were town, and I still do. I'm not FoSing you, I just want to start up a dialogue on two vets that are known for being high volume posters but have been quiet thus far.
I'm not sure about Coagulation at this point...this is unlike him but I don't know if I want to jump to the conclusion he is scummy.
And then I borrowed this reasoning to finally make my vote:
On November 17 2011 09:38 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:32 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I've already said that I thought you were town, and I still do. I'm not FoSing you, I just want to start up a dialogue on two vets that are known for being high volume posters but have been quiet thus far.
I'm not sure about Coagulation at this point...this is unlike him but I don't know if I want to jump to the conclusion he is scummy. Sorry then, I'm extremely PO-ed that kenpachi actually got lynched. for me right now, coag and bum are pretty much equal in terms of my suspicions. Bum posted 4 times, coag posted a grand total of once where he advocates a policy lynch on Kenpachi. But I expect a lot more from bum which is why I voted for him first when thinking about the "vets" in this game. Personally I think most of the mafia team is staying as far away from this kenpachi/lanaia/chaoser bullshit as possible. They wouldn't touch it with a ten inch pole. I'm just annoyed that the town is using the shittiest logic to try to lynch people.
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On November 17 2011 10:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
please elaborate on why you think a self-contradiction doesn't constitute a reason to vote somebody.
Lemon wanted chaoser to provide reasons for voting, yet voted bumatlarge with no stated reason. Even now he deflects the question by saying he intended to vote that way before. That's fine, but that's not a reason. Intent and motivation are different things, and any person with the capability to understand the two definitions should know that.
I wanted to hear why chaoser was voting bum because I too had suspicions about bum, and wanted to see if his were the same as mine. I posted with a reference to my reasoning which had been discussed openly on the preceding pages. Honestly I can't point to a specific post of bum to give you my reasoning because he hasn't been making them. That in itself is my reason for voting him when you take the fact that he usually is so outspoken into account. At least now he will have to respond if more people start voting him and we can get some sort of information out of him.
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At least now you are saying things. I want you scumhunting like you used to, not sitting on your hands and watching the thread go by.
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On November 17 2011 13:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lemon can you explain why you are more concerned about bum "watching the thread go by" instead of Coag?
I don't see bum doing anything weird. Coag voted for someone who was already hammered.
bum had posted a few times in the beginning, so his relative absence felt like lurking.
Coag only posted once, I was beginning to think he had just given up due to something irl and was going to be replaced.
To be honest both of their absences irked me but I felt like voting coag would be useless if he was going to be replaced.
Now he has come back, but it still seems like he skimmed the thread for 10 minutes and made a random post to stay in the game. Either he is playing the weirdest lurker scum I've ever seen or he is just not into this game.
##Vote: Coagulation
bum still needs to be a bit more vocal/useful for me to remove my vote, but his recent posts are a step in the right direction I guess.
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(basically I thougth bum was lurking and coag just wasn't playing, and it seems like if coag was scum his scum buddies would be prodding him to play, so I thought a not playing coag was a town coag, that would be replaced by someone actually playing as town. But now that he is back and playing weird, I agree that it looks bad.)
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