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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 08 2011 18:37 GMT
#1020
On November 09 2011 03:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:13 chaoser wrote:
On November 09 2011 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
No you won't chaoser. If nobody dies, its a nolynch and we snag another check.
If we pull off a check, then we go from there based on the information at hand.
Nobody should vote until the town comes to an agreement.


Yeah, IF no one dies. I have already made up my mind. If WBG or I am mafia then the game will go on since mafia can't double team and hammer down, I'm willing to get into that situation where it's 50/50. If your checks help with the equation then we can move from there but I'm 100% sure WBG is mafia.


Will you do a favor for your best buddy kita and not vote until after we have?


Why? There's no way GM and I are both doctor. So one of us is lying. One of us is mafia. I'm voting. I ain't going to make up some bullshit excuse about "oh I'm townie trying to save him from a mafia hit" like he's trying to get me to do. He's fucking scum. I'm the doctor. Simple as that. My vote will be on him as soon as night ends. It's up to the rest of the living to decide how this is going to go down.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 08 2011 19:09 GMT
#1022
On November 09 2011 04:07 redFF wrote:
chaoser dont vote as soon as day starts please. remember it will take 3 votes to lynch and there will be 2 scum. so one wrong vote and scum win. this is for everyone not just chaoser.


There's two scum. One of them is between myself and GM. If i vote for him there's no way they can hammer it down since GM isn't going to be voting for himself.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 08 2011 22:03 GMT
#1043
Am I the girl or the guy?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 08 2011 22:44 GMT
#1077
Ya'll are lucky I didn't decide to use 20 different medical acronyms as my breadcrumbs and used shows instead.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 09 2011 03:00 GMT
#1178
On November 09 2011 12:00 Ace wrote:
rofl you guys are hilarious




what up ace
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 09 2011 22:14 GMT
#1438
On November 10 2011 06:58 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:57 Kurumi wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:56 Curu wrote:
You should never concede in LYLO. It's like the most fun/thrilling part of the game...

I had no chances winning it.


Never say never!

Town had no chance of winning LOTR but a Mafia screwup coupled with some clutch play by chaoser saved an impossible situation!


I AM THE KING OF CLAIMING!

YAY TOWN! WE WON! TOLD YOU WBG WAS MAFIA!
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 09 2011 22:18 GMT
#1442
Very rarely do scum roleclaims actually gain scum anything. Sometimes you see them do something but more often than not mafia only really gain from counterclaiming.


Cough cough...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 09 2011 22:24 GMT
#1452
On November 10 2011 07:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
Very rarely do scum roleclaims actually gain scum anything. Sometimes you see them do something but more often than not mafia only really gain from counterclaiming.


Cough cough...


You claimed in XLIV and it really didn't gain you anything. Six (!!) modkills is what won you guys that game.


I've fake claimed previously as mafia to great effect before you came
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 00:24 GMT
#1516
On November 10 2011 09:10 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 09:09 Ace wrote:
On November 10 2011 09:05 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 10 2011 09:02 Ace wrote: He can play this card from both alignments, hence you can't even take his excuse of doing it to WIFOM the Mafia seriously. The Town would have lost but it was the correct play.


If it could have come from both alignments, you discard the information and base the lynch on the other 70 pages. Carrying out a policy lynch just for the sake of policy doesn't make sense.




This isn't a policy lynch. It is a LYLO and someone has been found to be lying about a Role claim. You can't tell if he is Town or Scum because his alibi is acceptable for both alignments so you can't take it at face value. What you do know is that he claimed a role, and the actual REAL role died.

What happened in the other 70 pages that can overturn this scenario?

so if you were us you would've lynched gm?


Yes lol. Good play results in loss of town. I'd rather have that then stupid play results in town win.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 00:33 GMT
#1518
although I have to say, I was scared shitless whenever I got into an argument with sandro or chaoser. They had me pegged and all I could do was argue over and over to try and get them lynched. I'm still surprised I was able to get sandro lynched


Hangover+trying to teach hyshes the game+poor attention to game = Fail lynch on my part =[ Bad showing this game from me lol. But I hope now hyshes knows how to play mafia a little bit better, he's just got newbie "I'm townie and scared to make a scumslip" syndrome.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 01:26 GMT
#1541
I disagree. Suppose GM is scum and claims medic. There are two possibilities:
1) There is a real medic, who is not shot night two. We get back our parity result between bugs and super and still lynch bugs. As the real medic is still alive, that allows us to pull of a second parity check, ending the game.
2) There is a real medic, who is shot night two. We get back our parity result between bugs and super and still lynch bugs. The game comes down to a 2v1 and you go from there.


I actually lied about goign to vote for GM as soon as day started, I would have voted WBG off the bat no matter what. Just cause I wanted see you burn/lynched
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#1553
Wait. I just realized. WBG and Ace are pulling an Idra. "F91 played dumb! That's why he won!"
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 02:49 GMT
#1557
On November 10 2011 11:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 11:16 chaoser wrote:
Wait. I just realized. WBG and Ace are pulling an Idra. "F91 played dumb! That's why he won!"


Idra sucks and F91 sounds like it should be the name of this mafia setup when it gets rebalanced


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 03:33 GMT
#1569
A claim is only good if it improves your chances of winning. Otherwise it's bad or irrelevant at best. It's that simple.


This is just WIFOM. If GM was actually mafia and pulled that shit you would have been fucked.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 03:45 GMT
#1576
On November 10 2011 12:37 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 12:33 chaoser wrote:
A claim is only good if it improves your chances of winning. Otherwise it's bad or irrelevant at best. It's that simple.


This is just WIFOM. If GM was actually mafia and pulled that shit you would have been fucked.

The same way if kita was mafia and pulled a pc claim we would all have been fucked. Does that make it likely he did it as mafia on that spot? No. Everyone believe him because that was an extreme and unecessary risk for mafia to take at that spot. Just like GM's.


One day I'mma pull a claim like this and then win the game with it.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 03:58:49
November 10 2011 03:58 GMT
#1583
On November 10 2011 12:54 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 12:48 sandroba wrote:
On November 10 2011 12:21 Ace wrote:
There is only one such thing as a bad claim for Scum: Will I get lynched or lose the game for my team?

If the answer is no, then it is a good claim. I've already explained this earlier in the thread. GM faked a roleclaim as Town and DID NOT GET LYNCHED. He could have done the same as Scum and hey guess what - CRED! Fuck it, it's LYLO - he doesn't even need major cred. He only needs to avoid being lynched. "Hai guys I know that dead medic over there contradicts my story but I have an excuse for why I lied even though it doesn't tell you guys jack shit about me being Town -lolz 4real believe me".

WBG even pointed out that there was nothing in the scenario regarding the check on him that tells you anything about GMs alignment. Literally you could have switched WBG and GM, lynched a Townie and then what? You're really going to make the same argument?

Laughable.

Seriously just ditch this forum and go play somewhere else. Pathetic level mafia games being played by the same pathetic players month after month and people are still falling for the same amateur level shit.

Except that WBG was mafia and didn't make that claim. I wonder why?
Also no one is saying that fake claim = town. You are saying that fake claim = lynch and that is PROVEN to not always be the correct play. Each and every piece of info this game provides you has to be analysed and considered, there isn't a flow chart of reactions proven to always work.


No shit you lynch the Fake Claim. Look let's keep it simple smart guy:

Damnnnn son, he just called all of us out. If only there was some way for us to play a game together and then decide this issue once and for all. Damnnnnn.

Who is more inclined to lie in a game of Mafia?

What happens more often? A Townie lying for the sake of the Town or Scum lying?

Thanks. This is why I'm better than all of you.


Damnnnnn son. He just called us all out. If only there was some way for all of us to play some sort of game together to sort this all out once and for all. Damnnnnn.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 04:03 GMT
#1589
On November 10 2011 13:02 GMarshal wrote:
Oh god, how did this go from a discussion about fakeclaiming being bad, to a discussion of how long Ace's epeen is?

To save us the agony of Ace listing all his manifold achievements, its pretty fucking long, we can now all move on and go play in Zona's steamship game.


Stop trying to ruin my fun at trying to get more popcorn possible moments in this!
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 04:17:20
November 10 2011 04:16 GMT
#1597
On November 10 2011 13:04 Ace wrote:
There are only at best 8 or 9 people that have ever outplayed me or tricked me (extremely rare) in a game on this forum.

But me outplaying you won't mean I'll win. I've lost games that are out of my hands due to Mafia being game where other people on my Team have an effect on the game. In some cases it's subjective as to who is "better" at a game of Mafia but me compared to you guys isn't even fair. I'm not even sure you guys are better than me when I first started playing. Basic concepts seem to zing past your heads.

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 13:02 GMarshal wrote:
Oh god, how did this go from a discussion about fakeclaiming being bad, to a discussion of how long Ace's epeen is?

To save us the agony of Ace listing all his manifold achievements, its pretty fucking long, we can now all move on and go play in Zona's steamship game.


Zona asked me for advice on that game too. Guess you won't be playing in it after all lulz.


When are we going to get a legit tier list Ace? It's always something lame like

God Tier: Ace

Shit Tier: Everyone else

I wanna know where I am damnit!
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 04:41 GMT
#1605
On November 10 2011 13:31 redFF wrote:
so we won because we are terrible? yay?


SC analogy? You're D- rank and you just won by going deep six off no scouting. Ace is Bisu.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 10 2011 04:52 GMT
#1611
On November 10 2011 13:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 13:41 chaoser wrote:
On November 10 2011 13:31 redFF wrote:
so we won because we are terrible? yay?


SC analogy? You're D- rank and you just won by going deep six off no scouting. Ace is Bisu.



That might be more an insult to Ace than it is to red.


Why, I have no idea what you're talking about...9_9
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