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On November 06 2011 13:11 wherebugsgo wrote: also every time anyone points out something that is scummy, you counter with something completely irrelevant and go "would scum do this? would scum do that?" You did this with the lynch issue; it's complete WIFOM whether scum would want a lynch or a no-lynch, because it was effectively equivalent yesterday. ??? Everyone agreed that it WASN'T equivalent? irrelevant and go "would scum do this? would scum do that?" How is that irrelevant? I'm trying to prevent what I see as a bad lynch while giving reasons for WHY I think it was a bad lynch. Still never responded to this point I see. How was a no lynch and a lynch equivalent? We get info from a lynch, we get almost none from a no lynch. | ||
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On November 06 2011 13:15 wherebugsgo wrote: oh look more WIFOM! mafia might also not choose to shoot us because it would give derp town a really easy reason to push a mislynch on us! jesus you actually think this reasoning flies? You think THIS logic flies? Give a derp town easy reason to mislynch you...right...cause obviously there's tons of pressure on you from town to lynch you right? | ||
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cause obviously there's tons of pressure on you from town to lynch you right? How is that admitting I'm not town? I said that you have no pressure from town to lynch you...which is a fact. And yet you post mafia might also not choose to shoot us because it would give derp town a really easy reason to push a mislynch on us! Why would that happen at all in a situation where you have NO PRESSURE ON YOU? | ||
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On November 06 2011 13:32 wherebugsgo wrote: No pressure from town=you're not a townie then? What are you going on about? There's four votes to lynch today. We don't need pressure from town on us, we just need stupid townies to bandwagon. Scum can comprise half of the deciding votes on lynch. This is precisely why I'm saying that it'll just take one dumb townie to get us into a bad situation. You just used one of the dumbest reasons I've ever seen for voting someone (Radfield didn't die, Chezinu has to be scum!) and I feel that I need to shut that down before someone really stupid like Kurumi or red comes along and adds one or two votes to that. Two scum and two bandwagoning townies=easy mislynch and the day will end with no good information gained. No pressure from town=fact? One guy voting for you ain't pressure. No one thought you were mafia yesterday at all, you were off the grid in terms of suspicion. So why would town derp along into voting for you again? Cause most of them seem to be pretty trusting of you. Though now your shitty logic for trying to get me lynched is starting to show. There's no reason whatsoever for if I was mafia to NOT kill your team seeing as how you would probably be the most prominent at getting MY team lynched today. The suspicion on you is mainly from using SHITTY LOGIC and Radfield being inactive. Having the not die part is just icing on top. | ||
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On November 06 2011 13:16 chaoser wrote: ??? Everyone agreed that it WASN'T equivalent? irrelevant and go "would scum do this? would scum do that?" How is that irrelevant? I'm trying to prevent what I see as a bad lynch while giving reasons for WHY I think it was a bad lynch. Still never responded to this point I see. How was a no lynch and a lynch equivalent? We get info from a lynch, we get almost none from a no lynch. Oops, I pressed edit on the previous post when I meant to press Quote. My bad | ||
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1) I'm mafia 2) I shot Bum/iGrok, one of the few people who didn't think I was mafia cause, fuck it, I like a challenge. And one of the few people that were suspicious of you and radfield. You seem to want to fight about saying something I didn't say, so commence getting over that. Team Edward won't be our lynch tomorrow, but I will read chaoser's posts again. The only thing radfield and you seem to be harping on about is lack of content, which is usually not a strong case. Forumite and prphlz was a poor lynch choice, I think there were better options available. The second player I was suspicious of behind red was WBG, mainly from this post. I felt like that was a backwards conclusion to make. I know bugs is a universally aggressive player, so seeing him draw out this line, from what I can tell, a newer player, seems like play focused in the wrong direction. And then this drops of the map. Incredibly odd. I concluded that radfield convinced him it was a bad idea to pursue this, but radfield's posts have not impressed me. I'm mostly suggesting that people take the "Interactions" philosophy to heart when they analyze. There is no direction to point blues in with the known info, so please don't try. 3) And didn't shoot you so that I, the one that was the second most voted player would be able to get enough townies to "Derp along with me" to lynch you | ||
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You fucking edited this post? Are you fucking kidding me? Oops, I pressed edit on the previous post when I meant to press Quote. My bad | ||
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On November 06 2011 13:59 chaoser wrote: And finally, you're saying 1) I'm mafia 2) I shot Bum/iGrok, one of the few people who didn't think I was mafia cause, fuck it, I like a challenge. And one of the few people that were suspicious of you and radfield. 3) And didn't shoot you so that I, the one that was the second most voted player would be able to get enough townies to "Derp along with me" to lynch you Cause once again, fuck it, I don't want a team that would possibly help me push for your lynch around cause I like a challenge | ||
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I'm not speculating on the iGrok kill because no one knows why iGrok would be shot. You might, though! You certainly seem to want to talk about the night kills, which makes you even more suspicious. Again, more WIFOM and shitty logic. How can you conclude this from the night kills when you could easily conclude the opposite? lol...I see you're going to take this one to the end I see. Good =]. All the more easy to get you lynched. So you're saying that if I was mafia the most logical kill for me to make was iGrok/Bum? Someone who didn't want me lynched today and someone who suspected you? Or would it make more sense for you to be mafia and to kill him cause he was against lynching the person you have been going after the most and also cause he was suspicious of you? | ||
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Again, more WIFOM and shitty logic. How can you conclude this from the night kills when you could easily conclude the opposite? Not all WIFOM is made the same. In this case, it certainly isn't lol. At the very least if I was mafia I would have killed one of the teams that was voting against me, not the team that was supporting me. Keep digging that hole though. | ||
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On November 06 2011 14:18 wherebugsgo wrote: also if you would shoot someone who was against you as scum then why didn't your team shoot me in PYP on night 1? I was the most vocal advocate for your lynch prior to your death. Uh, cause foolishness/you contacted me during the night and said you were mafia that wanted to make an alliance? Did you forget that? Or was that a fact that you wanted to not bring up? I actually even leaked that you were mafia to Radfield in the hopes that he would get some town KP to kill you to be gone with. Kill two birds with one shot (Not waste our KP on you/Make town kill the most annoying person against my team) Sadly Cyber leaked we were mafia. So that didn't work out so well. | ||
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Please quote where I said it makes sense for you to have shot iGrok/bum. The fact that you're still pushing for my lynch and voting for me says you think it makes sense that I shot iGrok/Bum. The fact of the matter is that it makes NO SENSE and that if you were actually townie you'd have noticed that and you would be reconsidering right now. | ||
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On November 06 2011 14:24 wherebugsgo wrote: You straight up admitted that you believed it was a trap, and you even told me when I messaged you that you thought I was town because I messed up and messaged you after Foolish did. You're lying scum. I doubt Palmer will allow me to bring in the PMs from a previous game but you can rest assured that our logic in not killing you that night was perfect and the plan would have worked had cyber not leaked I was mafia. The fact that you're now reaching for events that happened in other games instead of this game is proof enough that you're messing up | ||
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You're saying that you would shoot someone who was a threat to you if you were scum. I'm saying that isn't true, since your team certainly didn't shoot me or anyone else who was a threat to you last game. Nice contradiction. lol, once again, bringing up something that happened in the previous game in a situation that was completely different from this game and in a setup that was completely different as well. I can paraphrase the plan for you if you want though. You claimed mafia and wanted alliance, we didn't know if you were actually mafia or not. You were being extremely suspicious and we weren't sure if you were townie trying to trick us, mafia trying to actually alliance, or mafia trying to trick us to gain town cred. So I decided to leak to Radfield that you were mafia with our conversation. During the end of our conversation I tried to make you change your kill target to prphlz, the person I told Radfield I was going to protect. This was to make it look like I was actually medic trying to prevent a death and also outting a mafia to Radfield, gaining me town cred. I told him to lynch you but I was hoping he would have dreamflower shoot you. You dying my town hands would have been best for us. If you were methman anything, townie gets killed shooting you. If you were townie, hurrah, we made a townie shoot a townie. If you were mafia, hurrah, we confirmed foolishness was actually a mafia and we would have started negotiations. There was no way your death would have been traced back to us since Radfield would claim his townie circle shot you. | ||
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##vote: Team Chenizu =] Peace out scum, I is going to fuck my girl, best way to win an internet argument. | ||
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