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On November 04 2011 11:23 redFF wrote: hes just giving his reads. its funny that this is the first time you've attacked us and its just after decon fos'd us. scum. ##unvote ##Vote wherebugsgo LOL | ||
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On November 04 2011 11:25 kitaman27 wrote: They weren't convenient exclusions...I'm telling you guys which teams I wouldn't consider voting for at this point. We're trying to move towards a team we can agree to reach majority on, no? supersoft because he shows he cares who is lynched on day one. He is sharing his opinion and playing transparently. prpl because between all the one liners, he has a similar thought process as myself. The things he is questioning are things I also feel relevant. I'm providing my opinion. Use it however you wish. This is SO much better than red. Thank you. I agree with you on super+GreyMist. They haven't done anything yet to suggest that they are scummy. Greymist hasn't done much, but super on the other hand seems to be playing to his standard town meta. I don't really know what to think of prpl right now, but I'd warn you that simply having the same thought process as someone else doesn't make them more likely to be town. I'm not really digging your logic here. At any rate, there are some issues we need to deal with right now, as soon as possible. At the moment, it seems like the player base is split between lynching day 1 and going for a no-lynch. I think it's important, though, that we begin the process of consolidation so that we can have two or three viable lynch candidates by tomorrow. If, by that time, we are still unclear about who to lynch, we can use the no-lynch as our last resort. | ||
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On November 04 2011 11:33 kitaman27 wrote: Have those "good points" swayed your opinions to not aim for a mislynch? What conclusions have you come to based upon the responses? Hold the presses LOL WTF | ||
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First of all, I'm okay with lynching these two teams today: Team Edward Team red21 I liked GM's analysis of red and kita. I was suspicious of them myself, and I was planning on stating something about them now, but GM ninjaed me while I was sleeping. I haven't yet talked to Radfield, and I think he's going to be away for a bit, so I'm not sure what he thinks yet. Now, we have a PC claim and an interesting situation here. I don't like claims. However, I'll hold off for a bit until I can get some basic information from kita and red on this. Yo team red21, who would you check tonight and tomorrow night? | ||
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You just publicly claimed PC. There is no framer. There is no scum roleblocker. The fact that you don't want to publicize this information makes you way more suspicious. Did you breadcrumb your night 1 check? + Show Spoiler + (from the looks of it, no) Does your claim make sense from both town and mafia perspectives? + Show Spoiler + yep Are you refusing to provide townies with valuable information? + Show Spoiler + yes | ||
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On November 05 2011 02:19 redFF wrote: we claimed because if we didn't claim now we would have had to wait until l-1, and then we would have had a nolynch, because there wouldnt have been enough time to lynch anyone else. this gives town enough time to actually lynch someone. i can't believe anyone is actually thinking about still lynching us after the claim lol. I've mostly ignored all your posts up till this point (short of reading them and laughing at them, mostly) However, claiming doesn't automatically make you town. The fact that you even imply this screams agenda to me. There's a 50% chance of there being no PC. Even if there is a PC and you aren't the real one, the real PC wouldn't counterclaim because that would out him to mafia! Your claim does nothing to establish you as town and anyone who naively decides you are more town because of it is probably not thinking very clearly. Just as context, kita claimed tracker in LoTR to save himself and wasn't able to provide sufficient information about his checks. He claimed he had tracked chaoser but wasn't able to provide who else he had tracked. If you have no potential checks at this point in time, and seeing as it only benefits town by publicizing them, you're probably scum who is gambling by fakeclaiming. | ||
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On November 05 2011 02:19 supersoft wrote: okay i thought about the possibility that they're scum. they would have planned this very likely right from the beginning as a last hope plan. there would be a 33% chance that there is a real pc. seems to be an okay plan. the only piece that doesnt fit in the puzzle really is the timing. its too early for scum to claim. obviously they could have drawn this out until one hour before the lynch. therefor i tend to believe them. Nah, scum claim well before lynch all the time. Chaoser in XLIV claimed like right after night ended. Kita in LoTR claimed tracker halfway through the day, IIRC. On November 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote: Are you playing the same game as us bugs? This is day 1....how exactly are we going to breadcrumb our night 1 check? Revealing our checks gives the mafia an indication of who to shoot. How is it relavent to town who we will check?That's not happening. By having a proper scumread. On November 05 2011 02:21 chaoser wrote: WBG, he claimed PC, that means there's a 50% 50% chance he's taking with counterclaims. It'd be very easy to check his claim as the game goes on, why would you be ok with voting for someone that just claimed PC? -_- Yes, IF there is a PC they could counterclaim. That'd be a 1 for 1 trade and it'd be pretty good for town. However, there are reasons why a PC wouldn't counterclaim this as well. (as I stated earlier) All I'm saying is that we shouldn't let kita and red off the hook just because they claimed PC. Kita didn't react in a very townie manner to the way I asked about potential checks. That's suspicious to me. | ||
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On November 05 2011 02:32 chaoser wrote: Goes from being "lawl what a shitty claim, still mafia" to "All I'm saying is we shouldn't let them off the hook." Funny move Mr. tunnel. Chaoser... On November 05 2011 02:15 wherebugsgo wrote: Now, we have a PC claim and an interesting situation here. I don't like claims. However, I'll hold off for a bit until I can get some basic information from kita and red on this. On November 05 2011 02:29 wherebugsgo wrote: All I'm saying is that we shouldn't let kita and red off the hook just because they claimed PC. Kita didn't react in a very townie manner to the way I asked about potential checks. That's suspicious to me. How has my opinion changed, exactly? If I thought they were a better lynch than you today I would've voted them. But as I said earlier, I'm holding off until we can get more information. For now, I don't think the claim makes them less suspicious. + Show Spoiler + as in we need to keep pressuring them! there! I said it. god you guys are thick | ||
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yeah, that's why I fucking asked for two checks. | ||
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On November 05 2011 02:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Alright, well I just got back from school and haven't read shit all so it might take me a little while to catch up. Until then if there is anything important I should know, feel free to reply. It shouldn't take me more than an hour or two to catch up depending on the spam content. oh look, RebirthofUseless is back | ||
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On November 05 2011 02:39 chaoser wrote: Ah my bad, I misread the beginning of that post as more aggressive than it actually was since you first say "I'm willing to vote for these two teams"=I think they are scum and then at the end it ended up being "However, I'll hold off for a bit until I can get some basic information from kita and red on this."=I am not sure of it Carry on chaoser can you explain why you+hyshes think team viking is scummy? All hyshes said was that they are pushing multiple people for vote. | ||
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On November 05 2011 03:09 kitaman27 wrote: TEAM SWITZERLAND, TEAM EDWARD, TEAM LIQUID, TEAM SS does anyone strongly oppose lynching one of these four teams? I strongly oppose lynching Liquid, I oppose lynching SS and Switzerland though I think we should still consider them. GM hasn't done anything that is blatantly scummy (to me) yet, so I'm not suspicious of his team quite yet. Switzerland = iGrok pretty much and he hasn't done much of anything, but that doesn't mean he's scum. Team SS is the most suspicious of these three (Switzerland+Liquid+SS) and that's primarily because of how sandro's plan is two-sided and it's really unclear as to what he's pushing. With all of these teams, we have players who will contribute if they are town and will probably get shot if they are right. So, let's not lynch them and do the work of scum for them. Therefore, I still think team Edward is a good bet for today. | ||
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On November 05 2011 04:14 redFF wrote: ##Vote Team Viking i looked over the case and i agree with it, ima keep being useless now. wut | ||
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On November 05 2011 04:14 redFF wrote: ##Vote Team Viking i looked over the case and i agree with it, ima keep being useless now. my "wut" was in response to this. Team red21 seems to have a massive identity crisis right now | ||
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I'm up for killing team Edward today, but nothing is concrete obviously. I will check in every now and then throughout class to see if a vote change is necessary. | ||
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 from the looks of it Viking got lynched?Also it can't be 5-4 Viking SS because our vote is on Edward. Sooo...?? Unless I missed a ninja by Radfield somewhere? Also, decon, care to explain why, if team Viking is mafia, then me and Radfield are mafia? | ||
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Everyone needs to go back and reread the entire thread right now, in light of the new information we have. Come daybreak we'll probably have another townie dead (unless we have baller protters) and we need to consolidate tomorrow to lynch scum. If we cannot do that, we must no-lynch, and a day 2 no-lynch will probably not be very useful for us unless we are thoroughly confused. Activity is imperative. We can only find scum if everyone is active and present. Choose to disappear for extended periods of time and I will levy a heaping dose of suspicion on your heads. These teams/players, in particular, need to go back and reevaluate everything, since they were the most convinced that Team Viking was scum: On November 05 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote: The teams voting for Viking at the deadline: SS Liquid Nipple Edward Switzerland | ||
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That's why I'm saying activity is imperative. | ||
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But that doesn't change the fact that activity is imperative! :p | ||
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