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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 20 2011 22:13 GMT
#1342
hey! I was actually busy!
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 03:19:42
October 23 2011 03:19 GMT
#1458
Dead People QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/dVRje3pbXigbq
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 04:35:39
October 23 2011 04:32 GMT
#1473
The concept of PM games needs to be changed. All the PM breadcrumbing and real time conversing pretty much made the game less about what a mafia game is traditionally about (Using analysis and logic to catch scum) and more about soft-confirming one another and ended up making a game where the last few days resulted in less than five pages in thread since everything was already settled and it became a game of elimination. The fact that syllo/mig/rad got so comfortable with each other by the end of Day 1 due to the nature of how PM games currently have expanded to IRC/Skype/AIM/Etc. is obviously something that puts a huge disadvantage on mafia.

Relevant from dead people QT:
Public IRC is just a horrible idea. If you're going to do PMs, you have to use them right. Using IRC just encourages people to go with the flow rather than play deliberately and strategically. The only reasons IRC should be used is to have a private group chat with people you trust, i.e. your mafia team, if you are working in a small town circle, etc.

Having a public IRC is just the worst idea ever. Since its public, it might as well be the thread. You can't expect to put any meaningful pressure on anyone in a public IRC any more than you can in the thread. Sure, people have to respond quickly, but if they're logged in to IRC, that means they're prepared to do that. Alternatively they could feign afk, so even that isnt reliable. Since people type line by line instead of in chunks, it is so difficult to keep track of who is saying what, even if everyone is logged in using their true identities. Trying to have a coherent conversation in IRC is just insanity.

Now compound that with unverifiable identities in IRC and now there is almost no excuse to justify using it. Unless you have a small group circle that needs to discuss things together, use PMs/IMs/private chats instead.

As to impersonation being illegal, well it isn't, and I don't see any reason why it should be. IRC is a public space, you can't just assume its safe to spill your knowledge. Its the players' responsibility to make sure they're talking to who they think they are talking to. The only exception to this would be impersonating someone who isn't playing the game. That is illegal.

After the game I will request bans for everyone who was breadcrumbing. Seriously it just happened last game and it wasn't ok. Mig was playing in that game too so there is no excuse.

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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 04:36 GMT
#1475
On October 23 2011 13:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Electing a bullet bill and DT into office really put us in an awful position from the start. I think we would have felt a lot more comfortable able running if the elected roles were immune to checks. Really would have been nice to have a godfather, NRA. or framer. Even if it was pretty unlikely that I could have beaten out Mig or Radfield, I regret giving it a shot.

Also, Tudors suck for shooting me night one. Did I do something to tip you guys off?


They thought you were town for some reason -_-. I think I could have run a good campaign had I not been busy lol
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 04:37 GMT
#1476
That being said, GG town.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#1478
On October 23 2011 13:37 sandroba wrote:
hahaha sorry chaoser for pressuring you out of office =P


Don't worry about it, that whole day I was talking to you on Skype I literally could not hold a coherent train of thought. I was so out of it I ended up giving up just so I could stop thinking about it and go take a nap lol
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 04:44 GMT
#1480
How was I complacent? I was under intense pressure for not being active enough, due to something that came out of left field for me, and still managed to get off from the day one lynch. Jimbo's faking Cyber was what put the final nail in my coffin. Even when you and Foolishness were trying to get me to join your fake little family I knew shit was up cause of your horrible excuses. "We can't change the kill order, I don't know Foolishness, he's not part of my family, etc. etc." I ended up "outting" you to radfield and tried to play it off as me trying to dictate your kills so I could protect it as medic. At that point though the Jimbo thing already happened so tough luck there I guess.

Where in that was I complacent?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 04:46 GMT
#1482
Don't try to sugar coat over the fact that people DID breadcrumb PMs when mafia weren't given the townie PMs unless you asked and that bullshit things like "I'm 100% town card only in this game though!" were played among players that had played very closely with each other, making it almost impossible to say no to it.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 05:08:27
October 23 2011 04:55 GMT
#1489
You were complacent for a while, then when the pressure built up you freaked out and leaked scumtells everywhere. Your defense was really bad.


Your case against me was literally "Chaoser is not active enough, chaoser isn't being very strong in pushing his stances, he made a bad case against Dropbear, he contradicted himself with the supporting radfield/not supporting radfield" which is 100% NOT my scum play at all and 100% my I'm busy play.

If you're going to lynch me off that then I might as well never play mafia during the school year as I WILL be busy at times.

How the fuck do I defend against that besides pointing out the shitty logic there? I even ended up hunting out three scum that everyone in the town circle at the time didn't even suspect. Prp, Sandroba, dec

EDIT: sorry, being hungry makes me emotional
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 05:10:12
October 23 2011 05:09 GMT
#1494
prp wasn't on my team??

My team was cyber wiggles and kenpachi

prplhz, the Tudor Vanilla is dead.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 05:13:43
October 23 2011 05:12 GMT
#1497
it was completely based on your meta (you don't push bad townies for lynch when you are a townie)


I've pushed PLENTY of bad townies for lynch day one. Go look at PYP Insane. Go look at any of my older games. If you really think my scum play is actually that bad as it was in this game without some outside forces preventing me from playing my best then I guess I'll just have to take the insult and live with it.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 05:18:27
October 23 2011 05:15 GMT
#1500
On October 23 2011 14:14 Ace wrote:
appeal to emotion isn't a scum tell though.


Thank you Ace -_-

My my play subpar this game? Yes
Was your logic for trying to get me lynched correct? No
Did I end up avoiding the lynch? Yes
I would have probably drawn a DT check instead of a KP had the Jimbo thing not happened. Better to be safe than to potentially waste a KP at someone that might be mafia and bulletproof/hider/etc. right?

Pretty sure I could have argued my way out of a lynch day two if there was a DT check.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 15:21 GMT
#1524
Lancaster
Kenpachi - NKVD
Cyber - Godfather
Wiggles - Medic
Chaoser - Pupeteer

Good roles if they hadn't been decimated. I think Kenpachi should have used NKVD to connect with other teams though. Not to buy town cred, especially since two of his team were dead.


We had checked Dec on Night one too so had me and cyber not died, we would have been in business, though I wish the rest of the mafia teams had more KP...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 23:05 GMT
#1555
On October 24 2011 07:51 Ace wrote:
Awesome. So this is no longer a game of Mafia but a game of seeing who can get closest to breaking the rules or taking advantage of silly players. Pathetic.


+1 cause I CAN in this subforum MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 23 2011 23:47 GMT
#1562
lol
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:13:26
October 24 2011 17:12 GMT
#1575
On October 24 2011 18:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 00:21 chaoser wrote:
Lancaster
Kenpachi - NKVD
Cyber - Godfather
Wiggles - Medic
Chaoser - Pupeteer

Good roles if they hadn't been decimated. I think Kenpachi should have used NKVD to connect with other teams though. Not to buy town cred, especially since two of his team were dead.


We had checked Dec on Night one too so had me and cyber not died, we would have been in business, though I wish the rest of the mafia teams had more KP...


With two other mafia teams to compete with, grabbing kp was furthering their goals more than your own, because they could defence up and be at an advantage because your defenceless while you slaughter the town.


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