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chaoser
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From: Arctocod [ 14 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Hello Chaoser Date: 10/15/11 22:26 You seem to be in a bit of a pickle. Half of town wants to lynch you. I am inclined to agree. I think now would be the time to prove to me that you have a town-oriented role. Why not just ask in thread for me to reveal my role for all of town to see instead? | ||
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chaoser
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 03:52 heist wrote: I'll be keeping my vote on Radfield. None of this, I PMed him. He comes across as town. If you are running for mayor I want you posting in the thread itself. The mayors at least should be leaving a mark on the thread, being active, contributing. Mig and Greymist, I feel like you two are feeling secure that you have a couple people believing you're town and doing pretty minimal stuff in the actual forum. I can't tell what you guys really are because you aren't active enough in-thread. Do I know you guys are town? No. I can't just trust others telling me Greymist is town based on their conversations. And you guys expect me to have PM conversations in order judge for myself. Rather I expect you guys to start posting more in thread to more accurately gauge your alignments. Radfield, at least, has been doing just that and even though he is better than most at hiding his mafia alignment, he's one of the most active players in thread right now and a really good scum-hunter. if he's better at hiding his mafia alignment why would you vote for him even if he is active??? How do the two cancel each other out??? | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 04:05 heist wrote: and the other candidates? they aren't exactly exuding townie to me. And that implies that no matter what Radfield does, he needs to be killed off immediately since he's so unreadable. ??? So why would you vote him into a office that basically prevents him from getting killed on night cycles if he needs to be killed off immediately and he's unreadable? How would you read someone to decide if he's mafia or not if he's unreadable? | ||
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chaoser
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No, it hasn't. My play in this game most closely resembles my play in PYP Insane in which Ver says: 11. Chaoser [2][2] Modern DT 2/10 A far cry from your impeccable performance in the previous game, I was left scratching my head wondering if you were even the same person even taking into account busyness etc. Not sending in a check night 2 also hurt considerably, and poo-pooing the voterigger/mafia 2 dt plan is definitely not good. In addition, you downplayed dreamflower's case vs Ace and were part of the group sided with Ace over Incognito which severely crippled the town days 1 and 2. Revealing your role and being completely transparent later on in the game when you were under a lot of fire was definitely the right move and helped the town avoid a disastrous mislynch. On the whole I felt you lacked the time to properly analyze and think things through because you had a lot of evidence right in front of you that you even acknowledged in your posts but reached the wrong conclusions with it. I was Townie DT in that game. | ||
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chaoser
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The first post of his that stood out to me was: also after rednkted's last post i just realized that with town going for prot roles, people will be free to derp it up all they want What??? But from playing with him in LOTR I understand that he has word vomit so I understand if he's just being stupid but... not only does he ask for a coach before the game started: On October 12 2011 04:07 prplhz wrote: @GMarshal you up for some light coaching too? i just noticed that there are no coaches attached to this game at all but he also jsut agrees with everyone and says nothing original: On October 14 2011 06:43 prplhz wrote: i like the idea of narrowing down the candidates and then threatening them with having them dt checked. mafia are surely going to try to get one of theirs elected if they can and while pardoner is stronger than mayor, mayor is still storng. if we narrow down the range of people who are candidates mafia can't just suddenly vote in a pardoner in the last second by switching a single vote or something like that. On October 13 2011 06:46 prplhz wrote: i like this these are the most beneficial roles for town and if we can't have them then a red lynch would be nice in compensation having top5 pick leaves too much room for shenanigans also i don't hope that there will be a ton of people with a suppressed batman inside who will get into top3/5 and then pick another role because they "always wanted to be like qatol" or something like that also i'm picking [1][1] so no one else pick that please, i'll invent you many good inventions promiss On October 14 2011 22:20 prplhz wrote: you know while the mayor needs to be someone town, the pardoner is going to be held very accountable. we should lynch the pardoner the second he doesn't do exactly what we tell him to so i think pardoner needs to be expendable. When it was said wayyy earlier On October 12 2011 19:42 Radfield wrote: Pardoner is a threat, but if they ever use their power inappropriately they get lynched. Scary in the endgame, and needs to be eliminated before we get down to 6-8 players, but for now it is an excellent insurance policy against the Vote Rigger and Showtime!. All of these have been said by many many other people. Finally, prphlz was townie in LOTR which was last game. If you read over his posts you'll notice that he tunnels everyone he feels like mafia, being very active about expressing his opinions on who he thinks is mafia. In this game? On October 15 2011 09:14 prplhz wrote: can we do some scum hunting? this is all getting lost in electing people and that's very important, but usually we'd use 48 hours to talk about who is scum and who isn't. right now there's not enough of that from the candidates for election. Never does any scum hunting. | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 04:49 GreYMisT wrote: Even though chaoser is still a highly suspicious player at this moment, his points here are actually something I agree on. I have been talking with a number of people about prplhz's behavior this game, but was holding off on any analysis until he spoke up a bit more or gave any sort of opinion. So prplhz, what are your thoughts on the game thus far? a lot has come up since the last time you gave your opinion. When I have time I have good posts, who knew? | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 04:48 heist wrote: chaoser somehow took my statement as me wanting to kill radfield if he's better at hiding his mafia alignment why would you vote for him even if he is active??? How do the two cancel each other out??? How does that imply that I want radfield killed off? You said, Radfield is really good at hiding his mafia alignment. But he is active and he can scum hunt. So you want to vote for him. But the two things don't cancel each other out. Being active and being good at scum hunting doesn't balance out the fact that he is good at hiding that he's mafia. In fact, in this set up it's even worse since those two things help him hide that he is mafia. The only real reason you would want to vote for someone is because you think they are town. | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 05:04 heist wrote: no you imply that I want radfield to be killed off Where do I imply that you want radfield to be killed off? You first imply that I imply that radfield should be killed off when I said no such thing. I merely said that the two points you try to put forward as reasons why you are voting for radfield are extremely flawed, don't hold up to examination, and says nothing about why you actually want to vote for radfield. | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 05:06 heist wrote: I would agree with not electing Radfield if I thought with a much greater certainty Mig or Greymist was town. You didn't say this though. You didn't say, i think radfield is more likely town than mig or greymist. you tried to say that you want to vote him cause he is a good scum hunter and that he is active. An you try to excuse his "being good at hiding his mafia alignment" with a non-reason. | ||
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On October 16 2011 04:05 heist wrote: and the other candidates? they aren't exactly exuding townie to me. And that implies that no matter what Radfield does, he needs to be killed off immediately since he's so unreadable. What are you saying in this statement? | ||
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chaoser
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My previous post? or your post? What sounds ridiculous, you're making less and less sense btw. | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 05:18 heist wrote: Who is the player that is contributing, staying active, logical and generally acting as a townie should? IMO it's Radfield. Perhaps other people disagree, but what is almost everyone's reason from going against him? He's really good at seeming townie as mafia. With this attitude, might as well kill him now [sarcasm]. You didn't answer my question...Which post implied that he should be killed? my previous post or one of your posts? | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 05:18 heist wrote: left out the word best in there somewhere oh and that "implying" is from my post Can you quote the post that is implying that he should be killed? | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 05:22 heist wrote: I guess it was your post if he's better at hiding his mafia alignment why would you vote for him even if he is active??? I'm not implying you want him dead. I'm saying if you follow this train of thought, you might as well just go the extreme and kill him off. So do you go to the extreme with every single statement like that? I didn't see you ever do a logical jump like this in LOTR and there was a lot of things that happened in that game that had a train of thought that could have been followed to the extremes. | ||
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chaoser
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On October 16 2011 07:03 wherebugsgo wrote: It's clear that we can't get Radfield off the platform. (or, rather, I can't) So, instead, I'd prefer Mig to 100% get the mayor role. So, I've switched my vote to Mig. I'd rather have Mig as Mayor and be assured that we know who the bodyguards are than have Radfield as mayor and be unsure. Wait...so you're more sure Mig is town...but want to give radfield the stronger role for mafia if he's mafia? | ||
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chaoser
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I felt thats what basically happened between us after I pretty much gave you my gameplan What happened between us when did you give me your gameplan? Our PM conversation is: + Show Spoiler + [17:03] <chaoser> hi [17:03] <chaoser> what up batman [17:08] <bumatlarge> hey chaoser [17:08] <chaoser> are you going to rule for election? [17:09] <chaoser> and what do you think about dropbear? [17:10] <bumatlarge> i am not running for election [17:10] <bumatlarge> i think he is dumb [17:11] <chaoser> lol [17:11] <chaoser> any scum reads? [17:11] <bumatlarge> do i think mafia would publicly claim framer then realize whatever plan he had in mind was going to fail utterly? [17:11] <bumatlarge> probably not [17:11] <bumatlarge> uhhhhh no [17:11] <bumatlarge> none [17:11] <bumatlarge> i dont do scumread in the beginning of PYP games [17:11] <chaoser> =[ [17:11] <chaoser> why are you useless!!!!!!!! [17:12] <chaoser> exclamation point! [17:12] <bumatlarge> ill be useful later [17:12] <bumatlarge> when i fakeclaim [17:12] <bumatlarge> :D [17:13] <bumatlarge> oh ace is smurfing right? [17:13] <bumatlarge> as jimbo? [17:13] <bumatlarge> or is that not confirmed? [17:14] <chaoser> unconfirmed [17:14] <chaoser> i dunno, jimbo hasn't been calling peopel stupid enough [17:15] <chaoser> i feel like any smurf ace plays [17:15] <bumatlarge> maybe [17:15] <chaoser> sooner or later the urge to call people stupid [17:15] <bumatlarge> ace plans on grabbing the role ace as jimbo [17:15] <chaoser> would overpower his will to stay smurfinh [17:15] <bumatlarge> so that he has two explanations [17:15] <bumatlarge> to his behavior :d [17:15] <chaoser> lololol [17:15] <chaoser> did he say that? [17:15] <bumatlarge> nah but [17:15] <bumatlarge> it would be funny [17:15] <chaoser> that woul be hilarious [17:19] <bumatlarge> what role should I pick [17:19] <bumatlarge> I'm gonna do one in the list I made [17:19] <bumatlarge> but im torn [17:20] <chaoser> what number are you? [17:20] <bumatlarge> 15 [17:21] <chaoser> oh [17:21] <chaoser> damn =/ [17:21] <chaoser> lol [17:21] <chaoser> i'd suggest a defensive role [17:21] <chaoser> so you can scum hunt [17:22] <chaoser> or [17:22] <chaoser> ace [17:22] <chaoser> lol [17:23] <bumatlarge> pick ace [17:23] <bumatlarge> invent lies [17:23] <chaoser> i don't get his lies part [17:23] <bumatlarge> im sure they would give a lot of breathing room [17:23] <bumatlarge> like sarcasm could be a loophole [17:24] <bumatlarge> DONT BE SARCASTIC CHAOSER [17:24] <chaoser> OK [17:24] <chaoser> I WONT [17:26] <chaoser> who ya gonna vot for? [17:45] <bumatlarge> no clue [17:45] <chaoser> you're just a box of mysteries aren't you [17:46] <bumatlarge> the night does not reveal his secrets Session Close: Thu Oct 13 18:36:10 2011 You never contact me ever again. What about my recent posts after the fact? I'm not busy anymore and I clearly explain that I was busy and show that I had acted in a similar way in a previous game where I was super busy. | ||
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chaoser
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[15:34] <chaoser> hi mig [15:34] <Mig__> hey hey [15:34] <Mig__> I just woke up reading the last few pages of the thread [15:34] <chaoser> are you still going [15:34] <chaoser> ok [15:37] <Mig__> who do you want lynched if not you? [15:37] <chaoser> prplhz [15:37] <chaoser> or sandroba [15:37] <chaoser> i'm writing up [15:37] <chaoser> a case on prplhz [15:37] <chaoser> right now [15:37] <Mig__> prplz is my #2 choice He then asks me to roleclaim to him, implying that if I do I will not be lynched + Show Spoiler + [15:41] <chaoser> did you a my post? [15:41] <Mig__> not yet what did it say? [15:41] <Mig__> still on page 36 [15:41] <chaoser> it's the last post on there [15:41] <chaoser> it's kinda long... [15:47] <Mig__> yea also having 5 people message me slowing it down [15:47] <Mig__> and jimbo/rad write books for every post [15:48] <chaoser> yeah, sure take your time, it's jsut that my posts lead to me being lynched or not by probably you while theirs is trying to get elected [15:50] <Mig__> ok I am reading that post now [15:50] <chaoser> lol [15:50] <chaoser> np [16:03] <chaoser> feel free [16:03] <chaoser> to ask me any questions [16:08] <Mig__> would you be willing to roleclaim? [16:09] <Mig__> you told wbg you have a pro town role [16:09] <chaoser> i'd be willin to role claim to you an you only ... [16:16] <Mig__> yea I am still reading thread [16:16] <chaoser> ok [16:16] <chaoser> so am i stil lbeing lynched? [16:17] <Mig__> I am much less certain Which I do. He is asked on IRC if he was still going to lynch me while I was at work and he responded with a quick yes. [21:04] <chaoser> thanks for lynching me regardless [21:04] <mig___> lol I have to do what I think is best [21:05] <chaoser> how is that the best? [21:05] <chaoser> prphlz is clearly scum [21:05] <mig___> but rad is leading for mayor anyway [21:05] <chaoser> he didn't even post in thread [21:05] <chaoser> and voted [21:05] <mig___> hm I am not sure now [21:05] <chaoser> didn't even mention my case on him [21:05] <chaoser> even though he's clearly active [21:05] <mig___> that is really scummy yea bleh [21:06] <chaoser> whatever, don't say things you don't mean [21:06] <mig___> lol if you had the information I had you would understand [21:06] <mig___> and dont act mad at me lol [21:06] <chaoser> i am mad at you [21:06] <chaoser> cause i didn't have time [21:06] <mig___> why would I intentionally lynch you over prplz if I thought he was scum? [21:06] <chaoser> and then i put in the effort [21:07] <chaoser> i don't know [21:07] <chaoser> why? [21:07] <chaoser> is that a trick question? [21:07] <mig___> well thats what I am asking you I am trying to make what I think is the best decision [21:08] <chaoser> ok so you don't tihnk prp is a good lynch basically [21:08] <mig___> if I am wrong then my bad but its not like I havent talked to you and listened to everything you said [21:08] <chaoser> and that i'm better [21:08] <chaoser> off of what? [21:08] <chaoser> false meta? [21:08] <mig___> yes most likely [21:08] <mig___> no [21:08] <chaoser> then what [21:09] <mig___> basically has to do with his role claim which can most likely be confirmed [21:09] <mig___> but he could be lying it is possible [21:09] <chaoser> i'm a friggin REDACTED [21:09] <mig___> and I agree him not responding to you is super scummy [21:09] <chaoser> you're goign to lynch a damn REDACTED? [21:10] <chaoser> over someone else jsut because "his role can be easily confirmed"? [21:10] <mig___> no its not that [21:10] <mig___> its that his role would potentially be more pro town [21:10] <mig___> like REDACTED great for town I agree [21:10] <mig___> but also great for scum yes? [21:11] <mig___> I mean look I have spent a lot of time looking over everything and talking to 500 people about this shit if I make the incorrect decision then I am sorry [21:14] <mig___> but listen radfield should be back before lynch I will talk to him about everything [21:14] <mig___> to see if prpl would be a better choice [21:28] <chaoser> so you're goign to lynch me, who would be at least helpful in hunting scum, over prp who has been sheeping, says he will hunt but doesn't and has shit play as is present in LOTR [21:33] <mig___> well I am not even mayor atm rad is [21:34] <mig___> but yes I have to consider everyone elses opinion as well [21:34] <mig___> bum/kita/foolish all want to lynch you That last statement's truth I am sure he is 100% lying about seeing as how: [21:00] <chaoser> hey foolish [21:00] <Foolishness> hi [21:00] <chaoser> what do you think about the current election? [21:00] <Foolishness> just added you on skype [21:00] <Foolishness> I think Radfield and Mig need to both stay out of office [21:01] <Foolishness> but unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen [21:01] <chaoser> who are your scum reads? [21:02] <chaoser> well mig isn't bunging on lynching me [21:03] <Foolishness> who does he want to lynch? [21:03] <chaoser> me [21:03] <Foolishness> I think erandorr, heist, and prplhz are all scum ... [21:10] <Foolishness> I'd be fine lynching sandroba though if it's worth anything [21:11] <chaoser> thanks foolish lol [21:11] <chaoser> doubt it'll help now ... [21:27] <chaoser> they're backing bullshit reasons for not lynching prp and lynching me over him [21:28] <Foolishness> really? [21:28] <Foolishness> I'm pretty sure people would be fine lynching prplhz [21:28] <Foolishness> he's not exactly doing very much haha [21:30] <chaoser> he also made me roleclaim to him btw [21:30] <chaoser> implying that if i do i will not be lynched [21:31] <Foolishness> wait [21:31] <Foolishness> who made you roleclaim? [21:31] <chaoser> mig [21:31] <Foolishness> wtf [21:31] <Foolishness> did you tell him? [21:31] <chaoser> well yeah, i didn't want to be lynched [21:31] <Foolishness> and isn't Radfield going to be the one deciding? [21:32] <chaoser> before i was votin for mig [21:32] <chaoser> but he sid he's goign to lynch me [21:32] <chaoser> regardless [21:32] <Foolishness> so I guess you took some mafia-esque role then? [21:32] <chaoser> no [21:32] <Foolishness> or is he just an idiot? [21:32] <chaoser> i took a very protown role [21:33] <Foolishness> does anyone else know about this? [21:33] <chaoser> no [21:33] <chaoser> should i post all of this in thread? [21:33] <Foolishness> well if you don't do it now I'll do it as soon as you die [21:33] <Foolishness> but [21:33] <Foolishness> if you post it in the thread, you'll probably have to claim publicly [21:33] <Foolishness> which I don't know how you feel about doing [21:34] <chaoser> if it can get people to not vote mig into office [21:34] <chaoser> i'd rather die to a scum kp [21:34] <chaoser> than get bulslhit lynched [21:34] <chaoser> [21:34] <mig___> bum/kita/foolish all want to lynch you [21:34] <chaoser> he jsut said that [21:37] <Foolishness> then yes you should post this information in the thread [21:37] <Foolishness> obviously don't claim until you're forced to You need to answer for that inconsistency Mig. | ||
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chaoser
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[21:34] <chaoser> [21:34] <mig___> bum/kita/foolish all want to lynch you Post the logs where all of bum, kita, and foolish think I'm the best lynch for today. | ||
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