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I can honestly say I don't particularly like any of the current mayoral candidates. However, based on PMs I have a potential vote; there are one or two candidates that are more likely to be town than the others. We'll see how things go. Everyone thinks syllo is town but there is still doubt for me about him, Mig, and a lot of other players. | ||
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Can we see the logs between syllo and Mig? One of you should post a large subsection of this 10 hour conversation so we can see for ourselves why syllo thinks Mig is town | ||
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Please clarify yourself so everyone knows what your plan entails. Your reaction to Jimbo's accusations seems to be contradicting the logs he posted. | ||
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On October 15 2011 04:21 Radfield wrote: Honestly, your whole post is forced. Obviously we need to analyze, be active and scumhunt. No one is really suggesting otherwise. They are simply prioritizing. Wait a sec + Show Spoiler + [14:39] <sandroba> yes [14:39] <sandroba> man [14:39] <sandroba> dts [14:39] <sandroba> will fuck this game up [14:40] <sandroba> we will have to maybe scumhunt a couple of mafia late game [14:40] <sandroba> like the first few days will be like [14:40] <sandroba> "the following 8 people are scum" [14:40] <sandroba> which to lynch I think you're stretching by saying that no one is saying that we don't need to scumhunt. All three of you, Sandroba, and Mig have said things that can be interpreted as either "analysis is not important" or "we will not need analysis to win" or "we should simply focus on surviving and not try to die" which is just a weak way of saying try not to lynch scum by being active and chasing their scummy little asses down. Finally, Jimbo, I don't give a shit if your intention was not to incriminate Sandroba or call him scum, but your logs do enough to paint him as scum that I will call him scum right now. Take the spoilered part of the log that I just posted, and compare it to this: + Show Spoiler + [14:27] <sandroba> make a police radio [14:27] <sandroba> that outs the opposite results [14:27] <sandroba> or out results that his faimily is innocent 01[14:27] <JimboSilvers> Right, [14:27] <sandroba> you will never know 01[14:27] <JimboSilvers> Which makes it important that we get inventor. 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> Well. [14:28] <sandroba> yes 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> Actually. 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> yes. 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> yes we would. [14:28] <sandroba> but that is impossible to ensure 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> All the DT's would see the opposite result. [14:28] <sandroba> yeah eventually 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> And the only way you could pull that off is by passing it to a teammate, [14:28] <sandroba> no since dts don't know each other 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> In which case, you've just sacked half your team, for al ittle misinformation, 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> Right, 01[14:28] <JimboSilvers> but ONE of them would. 01[14:29] <JimboSilvers> And if they bread crumb, 01[14:29] <JimboSilvers> It would become apparent rather quic. [14:29] <sandroba> yeah [14:29] <sandroba> it has roles indeed 01[14:29] <JimboSilvers> It comes down to a gamble, 01[14:29] <JimboSilvers> That involves half your team. [14:29] <sandroba> but it's something I thought about this second 01[14:29] <JimboSilvers> Yeah [14:29] <sandroba> I don't think inventions will rape this game OH LOOK Either Sandroba thinks DTs/power roles will fuck this game up by finding all the scum, OR he thinks that investigative roles will potentially be very unreliable because of the potential for the inventor to screw with them. Sandroba, either we rely on the roles or we are cautious of them. You can't have it both ways and this is a blatant logical contradiction. He's scum. | ||
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On October 15 2011 04:46 sandroba wrote: That was me saying that electing inventor just because he is inventor is not a good idea. We can't trust his inventions unless he is town. You are on my top list of suspicion wbg, so yeah. Keep distorting stuff I say, this is fun. Try actually rebutting some of what I'm saying. Just asserting that I'm distorting what you're saying without actually providing evidence as to how I'm distorting it is pretty lame. You don't even clarify yourself, you just assert I'm scum. | ||
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While I did say that I thought Mig was townie earlier yesterday, after talking to him more and from thinking about the plans that have been brought up I'm currently unsure. I'm not willing to simply take your word that Mig is town, and no one else should be dumb enough to do that either. | ||
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1. In my eyes, there are literally no good reasons to be voting any of the current candidates. 2. The Mig election seems to be the one with the most support, but, again, no one seems to be providing good reasons as to why Mig should be elected. Notably, Mig himself is absent on this. Mig as town normally is not this apathetic toward scumhunting and toward the game in general. I have doubts when his plan is to "turtle" with no real intention of looking for scum at all. 3. Yesterday I was under the impression that syllo and Mig would run together. I supported voting syllogism based on the fact that, at the time, I thought syllo was town. At this point I'm unsure on both his alignment and that of Mig's. I find it really odd that syllo would not be running with Mig's support, rather than the other way around. In fact, I got the impression from both Mig and syllo yesterday that they would BOTH be running, and that syllogism would be the main candidate. That is clearly not the case today. | ||
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Are you seriously that naive/bad? | ||
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On October 15 2011 06:22 hiro protagonist wrote: I'll let you think about it for awhile... If you're implying that this is because the elected officials are likely to get alignment checked by DTs, it's a pretty weak argument. Whichever scumteam has a GF will forsure try to get him elected as mayor. Whichever scumteam has a framer will try to get a member elected. Whichever scumteam has agent of chaos will also try to get him elected. Admiral Ackbar as mayor would be good for scum as well. Methman as mayor would be good for scum. Vote rigger would be good for scum. Goldman Sachs would be good for scum. Floridian would be good for scum. Inventor (!!) would be good for scum. Role thief/Role swapper would be good for scum (just steal the #1 spot) That's 11 roles that could be potentially be very dangerous for town (and not at all bad for the scumteam) if elected to mayor. All of these roles are very likely to be picked up by scum, seeing as the focus of the plans was on detective/protection roles for town. Thus, I would argue that very few of these roles are in town hands and thus we are open to political manipulation. | ||
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A scum vote rigger who is in office is basically unkillable for two days. An inventor could easily screw around with town as well, since that role almost has no limit and is entirely limited by creativity alone (plus with four scum scheming they could definitely do a lot more creative things with it than a single townie) teams with GF or framer are no brainers, that basically means the mayor is uncheckable for at least the first night (for the framer) Role thief and role swapper can be pretty bad too seeing as they can steal the #1 and then likely land the inventor role by day 2 | ||
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I assumed something about what hiro was implying but hiro can explain himself since I have no idea what his logic is. | ||
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On October 15 2011 06:52 hiro protagonist wrote: hmmm, I forgot about role thief. but all of the vote fixing ones arnt so bad. Dont forget that other mafia factions will want to kill the mafia mayor as well. Thats a lot of heat to take when (which is just my opinion) you would want to stay more undercover as scum from other scum. Thanks for sharing that bugs. I had forgot about some of those roles. NRA member as mayor would be really bad as well. He gets checked and then the DT gets shot...pretty bad. Just the possibility of the mayor being PGO/NRA member would probably turn off some people from checking him. We have to keep the mayor accountable through the thread after he is elected, and of course make sure we elect someone who is a townie. As for Mig, we have taken this to PMs. I will post anything that I deem to be relevant in the thread over the course of the thread + Show Spoiler + fuck homework mafia all the way | ||
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On October 15 2011 09:35 prplhz wrote: wbg, how is that funny? also i don't know if that is exactly true. and most importantly, why are you even posting this in the thread? you just said to me in PMs that you think the thread is a mess and then you post absolutely nothing like this? i don't like syllo bargaining with out-of-game-resources like this one-time-no-lie-absolute-truth to a friend. that's not how you play this game. i'm gonna ignore it because it's on the border of what should be allowed by the rules. i don't get why people don't get warnings for stuff like that. also, i promiss a million dollars to everybody if i'm scum. no lie, but if at any point during this game you voice your skepticism at this statement you will not get any money. i think radfield is the best mayor right now based on amount of PMs i've had with him, i don't see him saying weird stuff so i'm inclined to think that he's town and he's the one i trust the most of the candidates right now. i also like wiggles. i think mayor should tell us his lynch way before he is elected and i think that lynch should be cheese right now, but i'm open for other ideas. Are you denying that you think I'm scum? It's funny cause of how horribly wrong you are. | ||
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On October 15 2011 09:53 prplhz wrote: this is a case of semantics, how sure do i need to be before i think you're scum? if i were dreamflower i wouldn't shoot you, but i still think you're scummy. i don't share your humor and i don't see what you're trying to achieve with your useless posting right now. maybe you can explain that to me? you just said in PMs to me that you used PMs to push scum because it was better and you then you wouldn't derp up the thread with derp posting, and what's the first thing you do after that? you come in here and post useless posts and derps. i think you're more scummy now for sure, on a scale from e^i to sqrt(democratic republic of congo) i'd put you right around that sound it makes when turtles think about mozart's influence of modern furniture. Who says I'm derp posting? You seem to be obsessed with me being scum based on the fact that I'm provoking and trolling you. At this point, why should I give you any information? Why should I consider you to be a townie when you have displayed such terrible use of logic? Why would anyone, when you call me scummy in PMs and say I should post my thoughts in the thread but you don't do the exact same thing yourself? You're really grasping at straws by calling my posts useless, since that clearly indicates you haven't been reading the thread. | ||
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On October 15 2011 11:34 chaoser wrote: Says the guy who tried to mine me for info and then when I asked him back he declined to reply. So who would you rather lynch? hiro? I think you're smart enough to figure out both who I would want to lynch and why I gave you very little information. | ||
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