TL Mafia XLV

On September 27 2011 10:32 GMarshal wrote:




There you go.

On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote:


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.

On September 29 2011 06:12 Palmar wrote:
I agree with Mig btw.

But I don't think WBG is scum either, just have a quick look at the way he's posting. I don't think he's actually played scum, but this looks much more like his overconfident in your face town play. Both being wrong and being aggressive fit his meta perfectly.

that being said:

##Vote Jackal58

On September 29 2011 08:36 prplhz wrote:
@jack

can you clarify that or are you just throwing accusations around, hiding behind some supposedly well known fact that you suck until day3 and should just be left alive no matter what you do?

On September 29 2011 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
Stop lying.




You were alive for a whole two days in XLIV.

On September 29 2011 10:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also Jackal, since you think I'm scum why is your vote still on Palmar?

You know, that shitty start of the game vote that you have yet to change, or, hell, even put in the voting thread? Fakevote much?

Don't have any scumreads? Don't intend to contribute?

On September 29 2011 10:09 wherebugsgo wrote:


vote me then. Put your vote where your mouth is and provide some real reasoning too.

Why should we keep you alive when you're making up excuses for "not remembering" a game in which you were alive for over 4 real-time days?

Why should we keep you alive when your meta conforms to how you've played scum in other games?

Why should we keep you alive when you adamantly refuse to contribute?

On September 29 2011 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote:


Take a little bit of time to consider what Jackal has said.

1. He's misconstrued my meta
2. As Palmar has said, he's conformed to his own meta of how he plays scum
3. He's claimed to have "forgotten" participation in a game that happened less than a month ago, in which he was alive till night 2 as a townie
4. He's claimed to have "contributed" when in reality he hasn't even voted yet.

You tell me which of these things is pro-town.

On September 29 2011 11:18 wherebugsgo wrote:


soooo lemme get this straight.

-you're gonna vote when you "feel like it" + Show Spoiler +
-you think you've actually contributed something
-you have me as #1 scum but I'm not yet worthy of a vote + Show Spoiler +
-I'm gonna guess that you'll vote me as soon as some derp townies think I'm a good vote cause they believe that I'm OMGUSing

On September 29 2011 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote:


If you actually provided a reason for FoSing me when asked that'd be a contribution.

I told everyone in the thread why I suspect tnkted (and still do actually)

Also, anyone who thinks my vote on you is an OMGUS should seriously consider rereading the thread. Look at when I vote you. I vote you once I realize that Palmar's argument that you're following your scum meta is dead on, and that you haven't contributed anything.

When I voted you, you still didn't contribute anything.

Finally, my vote can't possibly be OMGUS when you didn't vote me to begin with. You're not pressuring me, you're not asking me questions, you're not doing anything, actually.

OMGUS="oh my god you suck (for voting for me)" and I don't see how my vote can be OMGUS when you never voted me!

On September 30 2011 04:51 Mig wrote:
But how in the world is the case against Jackal even comparable to what palmar has done? Please summarize why exactly jackal is a better lynch instead of just repeating that he is over and over.

On September 30 2011 05:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
-_- clearly none of you read my vote post on Jackal.

Okay, so obviously one of the reasons is because I don't think Jackal plays like this day
1 as town.

2. He doesn't back up his suspicions with a vote. He says he's doing this to piss me off (lol) but in reality it just means he doesn't receive any attention because he's not contributing. Contribution involves discussion, and voting. Jackal is doing neither one of those.
3. He misconstrues OMGUS and claims I OMGUSed him. I clearly pointed out that you can't OMGUS someone who never voted for you, and he never actually even tries to refute this. Jackal isn't stupid like some of the other townies so I'd like to think he actually knows what OMGUS is.
4. He provides no input on anyone other than me. Clear lack of interest in contributing his opinion. This is not how he played in XLIV, SMG, MLP, or LoTR, all of which he was town and he contributed opinions, no matter how minimal, when asked. It follows his meta in resurrection where he just popped in now and then and said something irrelevant/dumb but was scared of Ace cause he looked third party.
5. He claimed to forget participation in a game in which he was alive for two days.
6. He has been inactive since people started voting me and Palmar. He has not said anything in this thread during the most active and important part of the day. with lynch two hours away his opinion/vote will come soon and none of us will be able to do anything about it till tomorrow.
7. I have asked if he has been in PM contact wit others, to establish whether Jackal is actually trying to contribute behind the scenes, but no one has come forth and said they have been in contact with him. This doesn't really help with his image of being relatively useless.

On September 30 2011 09:08 Mig wrote:
Jackal is that serious? If so why would you shoot now and not later in the day when we have more information.