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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:13 GMT
#1478
JUST so you know, Town has a 100% winrate as long as we lynch Nisani or Forumite last
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:15 GMT
#1479
i lied.
but im confident you're scum
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:16 GMT
#1481
On October 11 2011 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Town doesn't have a 100% winrate...

If you lynch me and then risk turns out to be town you lose.

too bad you're mafia. 100% winrate achieved
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:18 GMT
#1483
On October 11 2011 08:17 risk.nuke wrote:
Kenpachi, How the hell did I become the second most likely target?

Intuition
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:19 GMT
#1484
risk, you shouldnt be worried if you're town. WBG is mafia lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:32 GMT
#1489
On October 11 2011 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Kenpachi I'm not scum lol...

Think about it. What about my play other than my wrong reads are consistent with scum play? I've pushed two mislynches, one of which everyone else was in support of anyway.

The day we killed xt (which lots of other people were responsible for as well) and the day we killed sevryn (which everyone can agree was the best lynch that day)

I even asked risk to shoot DB last night because I thought the way risk posted was suggesting he was soft claiming vig:

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 07:11 risk.nuke wrote:
Can I kill wbg now? please?


So now if you're the vig kenpachi, what do you make of this statement?

Then, finally, think about these things:

1. If I was scum do you think I would spend 24+ hours with NC/Incog and draft up reasons and ideas as to why the day 1 lynch was so easy, and try to figure out what was going on? Then, would I come out of nowhere as scum and take all that attention for a case on CURU that was so easily destroyed by Mig's logs?

2. If I was scum do you think I would put so much effort in to PMing everyone after Curu and Mig died to consolidate all my reads?

3. If I was scum do you think I would have this many fucking logs (with literally every player in the game?)

4. If I was scum would I have gone and given everyone my reads when I thought I was about to get shot by Jackal/Forumite?

5. If I was scum would I really spend so much time faking logs with jcarl?

6. If I was scum would I really tie myself to DB?

Come on, think this through. I've done plenty of things this game to show that I'm trying to hunt scum. Yeah, I've been wrong, but being wrong doesn't mean I'm scum.


yes i do realize this.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:34 GMT
#1494
i know. im re-evaluating
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:35 GMT
#1496
^ i can confirm that
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:35 GMT
#1497
to me, Risk looks like a very terrible townie.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:37 GMT
#1498
If i think about it, Nisani really was never confirmed. i guess i just put him high in my list cause he claimed vet
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 10 2011 23:37 GMT
#1500
and cause of the DB notion ss mentioned but anything scum says should not be put into consideration
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 00:10 GMT
#1514
LOL RISK
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#1520
Imo, we have to kill WBG and Nisani. risk, i will defend to be a townie
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 00:19 GMT
#1521
that is our master plan. Forumite, Risk. you will be the majority to take this into action
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 00:22 GMT
#1522
WBG/Nisani, if you dont like this, that is fine. you are probably mafia. but just so you know, this reasoning is based on the fact that you both are less town than risk, forumite and I. The townie of the two should accept that.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 00:26 GMT
#1524
Intuition
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 00:34 GMT
#1527
On October 11 2011 09:33 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 09:26 Kenpachi wrote:
Intuition

So you believe DB was trying to distance himself from Nisani by calling a shot on him?

based on the information given now, Its really hard to say Me, Risk, or you are mafia. Its process of elimination at this point
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 01:00 GMT
#1531
accept your fate.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 01:03 GMT
#1534
very well then. WBG help us if you truly are town.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 11 2011 01:25 GMT
#1537
you see, if you read over their posts, youll see why i prefer killing nisani > risk.
first off, Risk has tunneled wbg to the very end. his posts in general are infact NOT scummy. He points out that WBG defends Palmar softly. tries to determine that wbg is mafia.
If he certainly was mafia, he would have not came to a conclusion WBG could be detective. thats just plain stupid rofl.

WBG or risk, supply some logs.

Now on to Nisani. Same case as WBG. always wrong, never provided concrete evidence. did not accuse anyone new, did not use his intuition. Hes at best a null tell. only bandwagoning

Vote patterns are weak. both of them are pretty big bandwagoners. Risk actually attacked wbg a couple of times and was part of the Kill Palmar Wagon. Nisani was always wrong. not that it says anything but just some reference for you if you ever want to go into their voting patterns
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1 votes (weak)
risk.nuke votes Palmar last (no reasoning)
Nisani201 held his vote on wherebugsgo

On September 29 2011 11:17 Nisani201 wrote:
I have yet to see anything scummy in Jackal's play. On the other hand, we have WBG OMGUSing, while mirroring his play from MLP mafia.

You guys make this too easy. I know where I'm placing my vote.

##Vote: wherebugsgo


Day 2
Both votes for Incog
Reason for both (Nisani bandwagons with +1):
On October 02 2011 00:52 risk.nuke wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I don't know what is going on in Pm-land
That said, here is what I currently think,
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kill Incognito
The fact that incogs last post was 15 minutes before prplhz got killed I'm 100% sure he's scum.

Suspicious people
wherebugsgo

I have been suspicious at wbg for a long time.
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2011 20:47 risk.nuke wrote:
If I was going to suspect anyone of beeing gf it would be wbg.
Going through his posting, He's definitely trying to create chaos amongst town, and he's agressive enough to think that if he got checked he would come up townie.

Altough he cleaverly never straight out defended Palmar the more I look through his posts the more I think he's scum.
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 29 2011 10:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also Jackal, since you think I'm scum why is your vote still on Palmar?

You know, that shitty start of the game vote that you have yet to change, or, hell, even put in the voting thread? Fakevote much?

Don't have any scumreads? Don't intend to contribute?

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2011 02:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Palmar looks scummy despite alignment so blah. He's made sense this game to me.

Thus, I still prefer Jackal. If anyone knows something I don't please let me know.

He tries to steal the heat from Palmar thinking that after he got a palmar voter to vote for him instead, he could play the suspicious saint and probably get the town on his side leading to the voters eventually voting for someone else.

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2011 04:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sounds like you sheeped and didn't look into any of this yourself.

You basically just admitted to voting Palmar solely because of other people's reasons. Did you question those reasons? Why are you so quick to believe them?

If Palmar is scum you're scum too.

He tries to create some other suspicious people based on shit and nothing just to create more chaos and distrust. He's case on Furumite started building when he realised Palmer was going down and he wanted to try and frame someone with it.

The only thing wbg has on his plus side is he has been hammering Incognito which he has been doing since the start. If Incognito flips blue wbg is most likely scum. If he flips red This doesn't rule wbg out (see spoiler), might be a longshot but It wouldn't be the first time.

*This is HYPOTHETICALLY and IF Incognitos flips red + Show Spoiler +
Wbg started of attacking incognito to give the townies the feeling that those two can not possibly be together. Despite actually going on him like a berserker wbg doesn't give any solid arguments for why incognito was mafia. Possibly expecting veterans to ignore it because of the lack of arguments and still giving achieving the goal giving townies the feeeling of distrust between wbg and incognito.
He was probably hoping incognitos last plan would save Incognito, when it backfired wbg realise they have to give incognito up

tnkted
Short time after my post against wbg, he posts this + Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2011 23:28 tnkted wrote:
WBG is town. I bring this information from PM land. Plz don't shoot him.

and this + Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2011 23:34 tnkted wrote:
PM me for questions, back to class


I'm a bit puzzled to why I should let a suspicous person be, and since he asked me to. I pm tnktd and ask him why I should drop wbg. In his reply I got no answer from tnktd. I don't understand why he would not tell me why wbg is not mafia since he seems to know that for certainty. As said earlier the first priority of all townies should be to establish their innocence so why? (it's before the first night is over so roles should be irrelevant. Instead he attempts to swing the conversation into me giving him my scumreads. I don't answer while thinking about what to read out of it and what to reply. Shortly after I get another pm, this time from wbg asking the same thing. Me and wbg haven't had any prior private contact and I get scumchills all up my spine.

Other notes
I don't think Curu is scum but the only person I would consider safe is Mig
The person to pm me before speaking in irc was dropbear
.


Day 3 votetally is kinda funny:
risk pressured Forumite. changes vote to xtffc later (no reasoning)
Nisani201 votes for sevyrn after changing votes off xtffc sinani. Final tallies say only 3 people voted Sevyrn: jcarlson, dropbear, and Nisani201.

Day 4:
risk votes wbg

On October 10 2011 01:09 risk.nuke wrote:
Seriously guys? Wbg is without a doubt the best candidate for todays lynch and he's slipping under the rug again? He has by far been the worst player from towns perspective. The manipulative playstyle he's had fits the glove anti-town play.

This is the last I heard of wbg.
Show nested quote +

[10/5/2011 11:49:08 PM] Wherebugsgo: vote xtfftc
[10/5/2011 11:49:18 PM] VictorJarl Engwall [nuke]: what?
[10/5/2011 11:49:27 PM] Wherebugsgo: just do it
[10/5/2011 11:49:31 PM] Wherebugsgo: vote xtfftc
[10/5/2011 11:49:55 PM] VictorJarl Engwall [nuke]: you got 9 minutes to tell me why
[10/5/2011 11:50:05 PM] Wherebugsgo: 3 of xtfftc sev sinani jcarl have to be scum
[10/5/2011 11:50:16 PM] Wherebugsgo: sev/sinani/jcarl are all bad lycnhes today
[10/5/2011 11:50:22 PM] Wherebugsgo: and xt has been really scummy in irc
[10/5/2011 11:50:24 PM] Wherebugsgo: xt = best lynh
[10/5/2011 11:50:27 PM] Wherebugsgo: sevryn probably town
[10/5/2011 11:50:30 PM] Wherebugsgo: so we
[10/5/2011 11:50:35 PM] Wherebugsgo: are flipping between two townies
[10/5/2011 11:51:00 PM] VictorJarl Engwall [nuke]: okey
[10/5/2011 11:51:10 PM] VictorJarl Engwall [nuke]: I don't like this at all

Considering how incredibly suspicious the situation was expecting to hear something from him, anything? But I waited and he have said nothing.

Lynch him and be done with him.
If he's RED we most likely got dropbear red aswell
If he's BLU we can go for sevryn tomorrow.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Detective. 8 players left, mafia is down to 1kp, It's time to step forward and tell us what you have.

Nisani bandwagons Sevyrn
On October 10 2011 05:22 Nisani201 wrote:
Sevyrn

Sevyrn begins by voting NC, he simply defends it but doesn't comment on anything else going on in the thread. Then he votes for Curu because of NC's analysis, but backs down after Mig nullifies it and calls it a "distraction case." Again, he isolates himself from everything else going on in the thread.

Now he's voting for WBG, who is probably a Townie because of his logs with Jcarl. Probably voting for him because he doesn't want to vote/pressure one of his scumbuddies.

Let's kill him, please.

##Vote: Sevyrn
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