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sandroba
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September 13 2011 17:13 GMT
#58
/in
sandroba
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September 16 2011 07:37 GMT
#107
fear me I'll destroy you
sandroba
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September 18 2011 23:09 GMT
#625
I just got here and got a fuckton to read. Curu told me 10pm but now I see it's in fact 8pm =/
Did I get modkilled?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
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September 19 2011 03:04 GMT
#692
Okay, I'm done with my first read through the thread. Syllo why did you vote errandor man? This goes against everything you said previously and is not on par with the way you think at all? Also why did you jump on jackal and GGQ instead of iGrok?
sandroba
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September 19 2011 04:25 GMT
#702
Yo WBG man, talk to me. Are you really 3rd party, and was that claim for real? Why are you putting so much effort into scum hunting if your only goal is to find the ring?
I don't really understand your play so far. You know what's funny, except for the part where you claim 3rd party you are actually one of my strongest town reads atm.

Also I believe Cyrandor claimed some interesting tidbits about prplhz and no one seemed to give a shit. Chaoser wtf man? Why didn't you look more into cyrandor's claim if prplhz was your main suspicion day1? Do you really think 2 mafia would tie themselves to each other day1 this easy?

ON and GGQ need to post more. These guys have the annoying habbit of lurking as both alignments so I never feel safe lynching them when they go into hardcore lurker mode. Could you please commit a bit more time this game so I can burn you alive if you are scum?

Palmar, you too man. Just because you roll scum 20x doesn't mean you are going to fool me by statistics again =P
sandroba
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September 19 2011 04:35 GMT
#704
I don't think jackal is mafia. I think docH may be mafia but I'm more curious about chaoser right now. I think drazerk is possibly golum if you are not, don't think he is mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 19 2011 06:10 GMT
#708
Everyone on prplhz wagon simply ignored what ciryandor said, which is very sad. Both main wagons on day1 are most likely on townies so scum vote is most likely spread out. Chaoser/jc/mr.wiggles I certainly expected one of you guys to catch onto cyrandor's claim. You simply do not bandwagon that sort of claim day1, that is ridiculous. This rayn guy looks terrible aswell, do you have any previous games I can skim through?

@syllo Okay man, help me find scum in prplhz wagon then, I suspect the errandor wagon has 2 at most and prplhz's looks more concentrated.
sandroba
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September 19 2011 19:19 GMT
#727
@Jc DID YOU SEE THIS POST? Are you reading the thread?
On September 19 2011 03:14 Ciryandor wrote:
@ Navi
If either I or prp flip town when either of us dies, I can assure you the other is town as well. I'll leave this as my last message.

Also, it's LOTR, I'm being in-role with that. And there are actual characters that I am referring to with each description.


All wagons ytd were shit and people were so clueless that they jumped on the first ilusion of scum presented to them. I think it's too soon to push blame on people that voted errandor quite fast when all the other wagons were equally shit. You guys seem afraid to lynch anyone that has a recognizable name and that is just terrible. As syllo said when coming up with a balance normally puts a least 3 vets in a mafia team in a game this size. So obviously lynching into that is way more accurate. The people who should have been discussed ytd were chaoser (for pushing really weak lynches like he just wants an out), iGrok (who is posting one liners and doesn't seem interested in finding scum) and maybe jackal who may be some sort of third party. DocH I really can't tell. Posting about how you got so mad that you wanted to quit really should not be allowed. You can decide that for yourself and pm the host after you reach a decision. This is the second game in a row that this happens.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 19 2011 19:34 GMT
#731
@Palmar can you please make a big post or maybe make a ridiculous claim =)
sandroba
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September 20 2011 00:54 GMT
#788
I'm trying to decide who to lynch amongst jackal/igrok/ggq/on/palmar. We definitely should lynch one of these guys today because:
1) They are lurking hardcore and deliberately not helping town, even after being called out multiple times.
2) They are all people that can compose over 50% of a scum team.
3) Our day1 consisted of 3 town wagons and thus gave us shit, so let's get rid of the dead weight dragging us down.
4) Taking the above into consideration scum really did not have a reason to come out and fight any of the lynches, so their behaviour all fit it quite nicely.

I'm going to vote palmar unless he makes a briliant case and convince me someone else is scum.
##Vote: Palmar
sandroba
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Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 01:01 GMT
#793
@radfield If you had to choose amongst the players I listed one to be lynched who would you choose and why.
sandroba
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September 20 2011 01:04 GMT
#795
Also I forgot to add jeejee in there too. He is a valid target aswell.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:04 GMT
#818
On September 20 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
vig should claim their shot, unless they are multi-shot or have a good reason to hide. Unless there are a ton of blues, 4 mafia kp seems really unlikely. Of the hits, a prp hit blocked by cyr seems to be the one most likely coming from town.

Palmar is contributing far less than I'm used to. This doesn't really match his town, nor scum meta. Last game in personality mafia, he was probably our most outspoken member and lead the town until a dt check got him lynched. Even so, there is no excuse to lurk even if it doesn't match his scum playstyle.

Radfield is still alive, which automatically makes me weary considering his reputation.

Sandroba, you called the day one lynch candidates completely horrible, yet you have failed to make a case for anyone else. It's real easy to say how awful people are without making a contribution yourself. You list the five names jackal/igrok/ggq/on/palmar and procede to vote Palmar. What makes Palmar stand out of those five? You say your vote is on Palmar unless someone convinces you with a case otherwise. How about you convince us with a case instead.

DrH is playing far more defensive than normal. Now that you can't hide behind your third party suspicions, you will have to actually make a legit case on someone. I'm hoping to hear from you within the first half of the cycle.

As I go through the player list, its not only the vets who aren't putting in enough effort. There are several players I'm having trouble remembering they are even in the game. Pyro, Drazerk, rayn, Vain, supersoft, GGQ.

Rofl kita, do you always play like this? You know for a fact I wasn't here day1 and that I couldn't do shit about who got lynched. Every wagon fliped town thus all candidates were wrong no? I'm voting palmar until HE gives me a good case that I can buy, because right now I don't have a clue about his alignment, but I know for a fact that he is more lurky as scum. You completely distorted my posts, but I've seen you do that as town aswell in ptp2. What's up with that?

My lynch preference for today is chaos13. I'll share my case in a little bit.

sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:05 GMT
#819
Formating fail:
On September 20 2011 12:04 sandroba wrote:
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On September 20 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
vig should claim their shot, unless they are multi-shot or have a good reason to hide. Unless there are a ton of blues, 4 mafia kp seems really unlikely. Of the hits, a prp hit blocked by cyr seems to be the one most likely coming from town.

Palmar is contributing far less than I'm used to. This doesn't really match his town, nor scum meta. Last game in personality mafia, he was probably our most outspoken member and lead the town until a dt check got him lynched. Even so, there is no excuse to lurk even if it doesn't match his scum playstyle.

Radfield is still alive, which automatically makes me weary considering his reputation.

Sandroba, you called the day one lynch candidates completely horrible, yet you have failed to make a case for anyone else. It's real easy to say how awful people are without making a contribution yourself. You list the five names jackal/igrok/ggq/on/palmar and procede to vote Palmar. What makes Palmar stand out of those five? You say your vote is on Palmar unless someone convinces you with a case otherwise. How about you convince us with a case instead.

DrH is playing far more defensive than normal. Now that you can't hide behind your third party suspicions, you will have to actually make a legit case on someone. I'm hoping to hear from you within the first half of the cycle.

As I go through the player list, its not only the vets who aren't putting in enough effort. There are several players I'm having trouble remembering they are even in the game. Pyro, Drazerk, rayn, Vain, supersoft, GGQ.


My lynch preference for today is chaos13. I'll share my case in a little bit.



Rofl kita, do you always play like this? You know for a fact I wasn't here day1 and that I couldn't do shit about who got lynched. Every wagon fliped town thus all candidates were wrong no? I'm voting palmar until HE gives me a good case that I can buy, because right now I don't have a clue about his alignment, but I know for a fact that he is more lurky as scum. You completely distorted my posts, but I've seen you do that as town aswell in ptp2. What's up with that?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:26 GMT
#826
I'll get to that in a moment. I actually want palmar to post first, because he might just jump at X bandwagon and provide me no read. I was actually going to push chaoser today, but his claim made me want to wait a little.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:42 GMT
#833
To be honest night kills point to mafia wanting the ring very badly. They shot prpl (don't even argue this was a vig shot after I pointed out 20x in the thread that cyrandor was masoned with him) and wbg (okay maybe wbg was done by third party). WBG had a ton of suspicion on him, so it makes no sense for a night kill except for the fact he was asking for the ring. I see jackal sugested people gave him the ring at night and then he got shot. The kills point so much to jackal this feels almost like fabricated evidence by mafia so they can push him today.
My problem with this is that jackal's play is like a mirror of his day1 in ressurection mafia. Avoid commenting on issues that pop in when he finds something "worth" commenting on. Also the way he keeps avoiding the issue and his "why me" attitude resembles the way he played as scum in sleeper cell.
I'd really like more opinions on him because I always think jackal is scum at some point.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:49 GMT
#835
On September 20 2011 12:39 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 12:26 sandroba wrote:
I'll get to that in a moment. I actually want palmar to post first, because he might just jump at X bandwagon and provide me no read. I was actually going to push chaoser today, but his claim made me want to wait a little.


oh lol, apparently the person i trust doesn't trust me back. Sad Face =[

Well chaoser, you do like to hug onto townies when you are scum. Like you did with foolishness in the game I co-hosted recently. Anyway I'm not sure on you yet, so you have time to provide me a proper read or fool me. Meanwhile care to help me out sort through scum and townies on that list I provided?
Maybe remove ON, since he appears to be here and his case seems genuine. Since jeejee is acusing jackal, but haven't said shit I'll keep him there. I have a funny feeling that if jackal is town jeejee is mafia planting the seed so someone else can make a full blown case and get the blame.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:51 GMT
#836
On September 20 2011 12:46 kitaman27 wrote:
chaoser, sandroba, what are your thoughts about chaos?

I think he is town actually. The post you quoted that made you go back and look at his other posts gave me the exact oposite feeling that it gave you. Like how he calls out 3 people specifically, and say that scum is pretty spread out in ytd wagons which I agree.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 03:57 GMT
#838
On September 20 2011 12:39 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 12:18 chaos13 wrote:
Although before I leave..
People you should trust:
- Dr. H
- TranceStorm
- prplhz
- Navillus (be skeptical, but I highly doubt he's scum)

Watch out for Radfield


Add sandroba to that list of likely to be townie. He was the only person to point out and call me out on the prphlz/ciryandor connection that I missed.

The thing that bothers me is that prpl list had ~6 players and somehow everyone missed that. Surely there is high potencial for lazy scum being there, since I know a lot of players don't really bother to read the thread in detail as scum, because they don't have to hunt for mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 17:03 GMT
#914
Okay let's not lynch palmar today. The only thing that's keeping me from thinking GGQ is scum is that he was one of the few players that pointed out igrok scummyness very early. So I sugest that we keep the lynch between iGrok and Jackal. I'll be voting igrok since jeejee is voting jackal and he stinks mafia all over.

@rayn I know it's kinda hard to believe but I can be correct on reads as town aswell.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 17:04 GMT
#915
Also until you figure something out about the cypher there is no point talking about what it is not in the thread.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 20 2011 17:23 GMT
#917
Mafia is going to shoot townies regardless GGQ. I don't think you need to comment on everyone in the game, but you need to give your opinion on those people being discussed so we can get a read on you. As town it's extremelly advantageous to both you and the rest of town that you establish your innocence. As scum it's understandable that you want to hide. So please, fuck the cypher I want to know what you think about jackal.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 21 2011 05:27 GMT
#1009
iGrok can you post the whole text of your role and of your safe claim if you have it.
sandroba
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Canada4998 Posts
September 21 2011 05:29 GMT
#1011
And my proposition to you is the following: You shoot GGQ in the face and we don't lynch you.
sandroba
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Canada4998 Posts
September 21 2011 16:13 GMT
#1093
Ok, I just thought about this some more and igrok's claim is clearly bullshit:
1) He lied about his role, since he took a hit and survived.
2) His claimed wincondition is too easy, based on his abilities. He has infinite checks to find a person, he can play however he wants, he has an extra life and all he need to do is survive? Also his claim that he was playing scummy day1 to avoid a mafia hit no longer holds, since he just survived a hit.
3) Gandalf's role has no mention of Balrog. Isn't that weird?

So he clearly is not a survivor, but wtf is he? To me it seems more likely he is an assassin/sk type, but really there is no way to tell. He did claim this shit with only 3 votes on him and I really don't know why he would do that, but I've seen stranger things before.
I'm keeping my vote where it is, unless igrok can actually shoot during the day and hits scum on his own.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 21 2011 16:20 GMT
#1100
Even if he is what he claims (which he is not) we have no choice but kill him before he uses his hit. There is 7 town and 1 mafia dead. If you were survivor would you side with mafia or town in this situation? He is just going to save his shot and use in on a townie close to lylo when we cannot chance lynching him.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 21 2011 21:51 GMT
#1251
Man here is the deal. Let's assume igrok is telling the truth. We don't lynch him and we tell him to shoot X person tonight. Obviously if that person is mafia he will be roleblocked. If the person is town they will either let the shot go through or roleblock him and create a fucking mess and possibly waste more lynches. He can withold his shot indefinitely and claim rb. He can claim he found saruman at any time and possibly make us mislynch. We can't deal with him later in the game close to lylo. So even if he is actually telling the truth I don't see how we can trust this and trust he won't do pro-mafia actions. There is currently 7 townies and 1 mafia dead, so I know who I would side with if I was what he claims to be. Mafia is never going to get rid of him for us. We can either lynch him now or have a copy of this day at a later date, so I don't think we have much of a choice besides lynching him now.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 22 2011 02:58 GMT
#1293
Okay got info from the host himself. Town win con is to eliminte all evil and that includes ALL third party. iGrok's claim is impossible.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 23 2011 02:19 GMT
#1492
Good luck everyone!
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