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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 15 2011 16:31 GMT
#85
/in
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 16 2011 21:47 GMT
#129
also fine with that change.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 16 2011 23:53 GMT
#142
On September 17 2011 08:41 GreYMisT wrote:
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On September 17 2011 08:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
From the looks of the OP there will be more than one faction in this game. I don't know much about LoTR lore actually. Are there any neutral characters/factions that might make sense in the context of the game?

I know Tom Bombadil was kind of a neutral figure right? He was just concerned about his forest or whatever


The only neutral figures I can think of (I havnt watched/read LoTR in a long time) are possibly Golom/Smeagal or the Ents.

I feel our best course of action day one has got to be to have whoever is in possession of the One Ring to come out of hiding and give it to me. I'll take good care of it.


No one should just get given the ring especially this early in the game. We should use it in the same fashion that the hallows was used in PTP2.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 00:04 GMT
#146
On September 17 2011 08:56 chaoser wrote:
Let's get this game started!

As always, some general advice:

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1) Town should stay focused. A few talking points should dominate a day cycle but never so many that it's basically everyone posting suspicions on everyone else, leading to "post-by-post analysis" of 5+ people. A disorganized town is a plus for the mafia.

2) Don't rely on power roles. Assume we have none and go from there.

3) Personally I like a bit of civility but I do understand some people like to be aggressive and it has it's uses. But let's keep the atmosphere positive instead of negative. Negative atmosphere will be detrimental to town play and at the end of the day that isn't good.


Point 3 in particular should be on everyone's mind. Palmer really messed town up in the previous game by basically making Day 2 a huge mess with over-aggression and spam. And then basically the only reason mafia was lynched in that game was due to blue power, breaking point 2. Let's NOT bank on blues to win the game this time.

Also, ##vote: Greymist

asking for the ring outright? tsk tsk. My steel and iron comes for you.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Greymist
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 00:26 GMT
#153
On September 17 2011 09:19 GreYMisT wrote:
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On September 17 2011 09:04 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:56 chaoser wrote:
Let's get this game started!

As always, some general advice:

1) Town should stay focused. A few talking points should dominate a day cycle but never so many that it's basically everyone posting suspicions on everyone else, leading to "post-by-post analysis" of 5+ people. A disorganized town is a plus for the mafia.

2) Don't rely on power roles. Assume we have none and go from there.

3) Personally I like a bit of civility but I do understand some people like to be aggressive and it has it's uses. But let's keep the atmosphere positive instead of negative. Negative atmosphere will be detrimental to town play and at the end of the day that isn't good.


Point 3 in particular should be on everyone's mind. Palmer really messed town up in the previous game by basically making Day 2 a huge mess with over-aggression and spam. And then basically the only reason mafia was lynched in that game was due to blue power, breaking point 2. Let's NOT bank on blues to win the game this time.

Also, ##vote: Greymist

asking for the ring outright? tsk tsk. My steel and iron comes for you.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Greymist


Well looks like I succeeded in getting discussion going.
Out of the three people who voted for me immediately, only Dr. H and chaises gave a good reason. Daz, any other reason rather than "I agree," or is your vote a sheep vote?


I actually had stated my reasons regarding the ring earlier I just didn't vote for you then.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 00:39 GMT
#162
On September 17 2011 09:33 Vain wrote:
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On September 17 2011 09:26 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 09:19 GreYMisT wrote:
On September 17 2011 09:04 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:56 chaoser wrote:
Let's get this game started!

As always, some general advice:

1) Town should stay focused. A few talking points should dominate a day cycle but never so many that it's basically everyone posting suspicions on everyone else, leading to "post-by-post analysis" of 5+ people. A disorganized town is a plus for the mafia.

2) Don't rely on power roles. Assume we have none and go from there.

3) Personally I like a bit of civility but I do understand some people like to be aggressive and it has it's uses. But let's keep the atmosphere positive instead of negative. Negative atmosphere will be detrimental to town play and at the end of the day that isn't good.


Point 3 in particular should be on everyone's mind. Palmer really messed town up in the previous game by basically making Day 2 a huge mess with over-aggression and spam. And then basically the only reason mafia was lynched in that game was due to blue power, breaking point 2. Let's NOT bank on blues to win the game this time.

Also, ##vote: Greymist

asking for the ring outright? tsk tsk. My steel and iron comes for you.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Greymist


Well looks like I succeeded in getting discussion going.
Out of the three people who voted for me immediately, only Dr. H and chaises gave a good reason. Daz, any other reason rather than "I agree," or is your vote a sheep vote?


I actually had stated my reasons regarding the ring earlier I just didn't vote for you then.


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On September 17 2011 08:53 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:41 GreYMisT wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
From the looks of the OP there will be more than one faction in this game. I don't know much about LoTR lore actually. Are there any neutral characters/factions that might make sense in the context of the game?

I know Tom Bombadil was kind of a neutral figure right? He was just concerned about his forest or whatever


The only neutral figures I can think of (I havnt watched/read LoTR in a long time) are possibly Golom/Smeagal or the Ents.

I feel our best course of action day one has got to be to have whoever is in possession of the One Ring to come out of hiding and give it to me. I'll take good care of it.


No one should just get given the ring especially this early in the game. We should use it in the same fashion that the hallows was used in PTP2.


How the fuck is that a reason?


Hmm thought I had posted something else along side that.

Basically the first people to seek after items in PTP2 was scum since they obviously won't have any members having it for balance reasons.

( And yes we probably can get the whole confirmed townie thing going from who starts with the ring, shame they will instantly die by claiming it though )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 01:40 GMT
#191
On September 17 2011 10:23 Navillus wrote:
God @#$% it I have now rolled VT in literally every &*!@ing game that had it that I have played in >:[ anyways if Drazerk gets to vote people with little to no justification then I do too

##Vote Drazerk



Fine with me... no idea why you would claim VT this early in the game though.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#251
On September 17 2011 16:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Yes. I am.

Give me the ring and I'll find scum for you.


Find scum and we will give you the ring.

Not the other way around.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 09:59 GMT
#254
Looking at it I think WBG is probably lying with his claim and using it as an excuse to post bad and try and get the ring.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#258
On September 17 2011 19:22 xtfftc wrote:
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On September 17 2011 13:37 chaos13 wrote:
On September 17 2011 10:35 xtfftc wrote:

On September 17 2011 09:32 Radfield wrote:

Posts like this(mine) should not be given consideration when you are trying to determine a players alignment.


They definitely should be.


Nope. The entire content of his post was all based on game mechanics. Game mechanics reveal zero about a player's alignment, so if you give people town cred for posting that, the whole mafia team is going to do it and pretty soon you're completely fucked.

Nope. Discussions about game mechanics often reveal bits of information about people's alignment. More importantly, the reactions to these discussions provide information as well. Compared to trolling, discussing lore, speculating about game mechanics and jumping on random people, this is by far the best way to start a proper discussion. Something you seem interested in not doing... Would you say that the current theorycrafting exercise is getting us any closer to catching mafia?

+ Show Spoiler [Pointless theorycrafting] +

As a side note, it would be rather fun if WBG is indeed Gollum and part of his role is asking for the ring in every single post he makes. And I know I just said that theorycrafting gets us nowhere near to catching mafia but I can't help myself. Assuming that Gollum is capable of stealing the ring, we can not afford to kill him, no matter how annoying he becomes. If mafia get the ring, Gollum would likely be our best chance of retrieving it back from them - and we all agree that Sauron or Saruman being in possession of the ring is a really bad situation for town.
Actually, WBG already has two posts that don't mention the ring but perhaps it doesn't have to be every post but he has a quota instead?


I think he is lying and that may of been a slip up ( Like my caller posting restriction in WAW2 )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 14:13 GMT
#268
It will be suspicious if either of them just fall of the grid and use that as their 5 posts though...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#301
Posting restrictions are definitely in place.

As for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now.

Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#302
On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote:
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Navillus, I feel as if you're pulling the noob card. This is your 6th game, you should know better than to claim day one. I looked through your older games and couldn't find any other instance where you opened the game with a claim, combined with the fact you decided to sound really angry with the random censored swears, makes me suspicious. Besides the random vote on Drazerk, who do you suspect right now?


6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.)

As to my thoughts, I'm even more skeptical on Drazerk, I had figured that that first vote was pressure, and from what I know Dr. H is a very good vet player so I figured that's exactly what he was doing when he added his vote on, but Drazerk isn't as good as Dr. H, I could see him being scum and thinking that they could actually get a wagon going, then what made me more suspicious is that he completely ducks my vote and instead attacks me.


I didn't attack you I just called you a idiot for claiming VT.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 17:33 GMT
#306
since I forgot to do it before I left

##unvote:
##vote: wherebugsgo
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 10:09 GMT
#416
I am busy and just quickly glanced over 1-2 pages but to clear something up -

I can not comment on and posting restrictions I may or may not have just know curu can put them in the game and he probably will have used them.

Saying that WBG is lying about being golum and using it as an excuse to play badly and obtain the ring for scum he doesn't have a posting restriction.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#566
On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr


If this is true Erandorr needs to die.

Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#575
On September 19 2011 07:05 Radfield wrote:
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On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr


If this is true Erandorr needs to die.

Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.



Drazerk why would you assume that Kita is lying when Erandorr basically reposted exactly what Kita said:

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On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way?


This is an absurdly feeble defense. In fact, it's not even a defence, it's a redirect. Of course WBG's posts have been strange, no one can deny that. But plenty of town players have opened games by playing 'poorly' to attract sheep votes and bs votes.... like yours. Does this mean WBG is town? Of course not, but it certainly doesn't make him scum either. Add to the fact that his posting dramatically improved as the day went on and you find someone more likely to be town than scum. If his posting/activity level stays high than he stays, if it deteriorates than we vig him, by no means do we use a lynch on someone who the vast majority of the players think is "probably not mafia but..."


I generally don't trust people anymore.

As for WBG - I still think he is lying about his claim and getting people to go "Leave him it's just gollum who is third party"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:15 GMT
#579
On September 19 2011 07:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr


If this is true Erandorr needs to die.

Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.


So nice of you to join us! I hope you enjoyed your lurker vacation.

Seeing as you haven't posted anything about prpl or jackal, I would like to know your thoughts about both of them.



Don't have a strong opinion on either but jackal seems a bit off and I did say that I would be lurking for several hours in advance.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:18 GMT
#583
On September 19 2011 07:14 prplhz wrote:
@drazerk

what you mean you don't trust people anymore? when and who did you ever trust? why did you trust these people in the first place, it seems weird that you trust someone on day1.


I was referring to people in general not just in this game.

the post came up however so

##unvote:
##vote: Erandorr
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:44 GMT
#605
On September 19 2011 07:43 chaoser wrote:
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On September 19 2011 07:18 supersoft wrote:
sorry guys, i was on the road the whole day and only have my telephone to post today.
i vote iGrok because of the reasons i gave in my last post.


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On September 19 2011 07:39 supersoft wrote:
wait a sec pls i try to catch up. like i said i wasnt avaliable and now i am a bit drunk + i am postin with my iphone.


You got drunk in 21 minutes while on the road posting from your iPhone?


Lightweight!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:52 GMT
#609
On September 19 2011 07:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on WBG out of principle because I am sure he is either SK or Mafia. The fact that no one is even exploring the possibility that he is scum says volumes to me. If he were, in fact mafia, it's a fitting enough to say "nah hes obv just 3rd party he can't be scum if yoou vote for him youre scum becasue hes not scum" but we don't know what alignment anyone is only mafia know that :-)


That was my whole reason for voting for him originally and the reason Ill probably vote for him tomorrow.

WBG won't be lynched today but hopefully he will be shot tonight or lynched tomorrow.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 23:01 GMT
#614
On September 19 2011 08:00 xtfftc wrote:
Such a last minute vote, sorry again. :/



Cutting it rather close there...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#620
On September 19 2011 08:03 Navillus wrote:
Or blue actually, I just realized that fits too.


If he is blue I give up...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 23:12 GMT
#627
On September 19 2011 08:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On September 19 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
I just got here and got a fuckton to read. Curu told me 10pm but now I see it's in fact 8pm =/
Did I get modkilled?


I believe he gave you a pass for the vote, but you will still need to make your 5 post quota...I think?


Thinking about that I think a lot of people need to make the 5 post quota ( JeeJee springs to mind )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 23:18 GMT
#635
...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 23:20 GMT
#642
Vigi's shoot WBG.

DTs scan Jackal / prphlhz

If you have the ring do NOT pass it on to anyone tonight.

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#755
Told you WBG was lying about his golum claim >.<
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 20 2011 22:43 GMT
#957
I said he was lying about being gollum - He was lying about being gollum

it's not my fault he was a idiotic town player and got himself killed because of it.

Anyhow my computer is under repairs and I won't be picking it up until sometime tomorrow afternoon.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 20 2011 22:50 GMT
#961
On September 21 2011 07:49 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm also loving how people are showing up right after an FoS.


It's magic.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 20 2011 22:53 GMT
#963
On September 21 2011 07:51 heist wrote:
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On September 21 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On September 21 2011 07:49 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm also loving how people are showing up right after an FoS.


It's magic.


Now I know how to conjure up a Drazerk.


say my name three times in any thread and ill appear.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 20 2011 23:11 GMT
#968
I actually have no idea at the moment hence why im not actually posting that much.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 12:00 GMT
#1052
Easy lynches for today!

Myself
Palmar
iGrok

Personally I don't see the case against iGrok today he will self claim or die anyway so it's rather stupid to be killing him today with at least giving him that chance ( No I don't see him as third party and to be honest I don't see how other people can see that )

Palmar is useless, isn't contributing much and is going after the easy lynches all game but I think a bullet would be a better use for him.

as for myself...

On August 09 2011 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 09 2011 07:28 Curu wrote:
I'd also be a bit wary of Drazerk since his entire scum game in PTP was to be useless and active lurk while voting/bussing to gain Town cred.


Already killed a townie.

Can't be scum


for real lynch targets...

Jackal / Pyo / Rad all give me bad vibes but I've yet to make my mind up on who I think is scum ( Possibly all of them but I highly doubt it ).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 12:15 GMT
#1056
On September 21 2011 21:09 syllogism wrote:
Reading the thread helps, as apparently you missed the part where he claimed BALROG


Mafia was given safe claims it makes no sense for them to use one everyone would instantly believe is scum / third party.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#1058
On September 21 2011 21:17 syllogism wrote:
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On September 21 2011 21:15 Drazerk wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:09 syllogism wrote:
Reading the thread helps, as apparently you missed the part where he claimed BALROG


Mafia was given safe claims it makes no sense for them to use one everyone would instantly believe is scum / third party.

So you are saying it makes more sense for town to claim Balrog and lie about everything?


With the way Townies have been fake claiming this game it would not surprise me one bit.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 12:51 GMT
#1063
On September 21 2011 21:40 syllogism wrote:
You should probably retire from mafia if you really believe he could be a townie doing it for fun at this point. You don't even need his claim to see he isn't playing like a townie would


Alls I am saying is not to kill him today.



Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 13:14 GMT
#1065
On September 21 2011 22:06 prplhz wrote:
drazerk why not kill him today? you want to postpone the lynch to tomorrow? also why do you think he's gonna get killed anyway, as you stated on some previous post?


We have better targets
Not really if he's lying I'd rather a vigi take care of it.
People are already shooting at him over the claim, some idiot will shoot him either Mafia before he has a chance to go through with his plan or a vigilante. If your going to ask about possible medics I'd rather they focus their attentions elsewhere.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 14:09 GMT
#1072
On September 21 2011 22:54 prplhz wrote:
@drazerk

why would it be idiotic to shoot him? why do you even think anybody is gonna shoot someone who already survived a hit somehow? why do you want to keep a guy alive whose only defense is a claim, and who then magically survives a hit even though his claim said nothing about that ability? the guy needs to die and a lynch is the only way to go.

although i'm interested in any case you think you can make against jack/pyo/rad.


Medics exist and that's what I think has happened here and it's why I am asking they stay away tonight.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 14:41 GMT
#1076
On September 21 2011 23:27 prplhz wrote:
uhmn isn't it a bit weird that igrok claimed after 3 pressure votes. i mean, a lot of people got 3 votes during day1 and they didn't claim, i've actually never seen anyone claim after just 3 votes and we weren't that far into the day, a lot of things could have happened. i think igrok felt very guilty and thinks the case against him is pretty strong, because he is scum. and that made him claim some shit he just made up.

also @drazerk

but medics don't protect through day. thus he's either a veteran or he's somehow immune to ##cleave, no matter what then he lied about his role. also, why would any medic protect igrok, he is scummy as hell and he didn't contribute during day1 at all.


How do you know medics don't protect through the day?

I've played a lot of games where they have protected all cycle.

As for why they would protect iGrok?

I have no idea.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#1119
On September 22 2011 02:45 Archon_Toilet wrote:
Drazerk is looking like a candidate who should be looked at more closely.

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On September 21 2011 21:00 Drazerk wrote:
Easy lynches for today!

Myself
Palmar
iGrok

as for myself...

On August 09 2011 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
On August 09 2011 07:28 Curu wrote:
I'd also be a bit wary of Drazerk since his entire scum game in PTP was to be useless and active lurk while voting/bussing to gain Town cred.


Already killed a townie.

Can't be scum


for real lynch targets...

Jackal / Pyo / Rad all give me bad vibes but I've yet to make my mind up on who I think is scum ( Possibly all of them but I highly doubt it ).

This post makes me worry.

Why you quote game from last month? If you are claiming a shot why not claim it openly?

Why list so many name but not have an opinion on them?

Why did you jump on the Erandorr bandwagon?

Why so many useless one liner? Just to make the 5 post?

##Vote Drazerk



Read the game first...

He lied about the editing which through me over the fence.

No.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:25 GMT
#1132
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#1138
On September 22 2011 03:27 kitaman27 wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?


You're a day medic? Or are you a night medic whose protection followed over to day 2? Also, could you explain your reasoning for protecting iGrok over anyone else?


Protection follows over as far as I can tell.

Day 1 I wasn't getting a scummy vibe from iGrok and was uncertain about a lot of players.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#1139
On September 22 2011 03:28 Palmar wrote:
oh, drazerk is scum too


Cute but you know I have better role claims than that.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:31 GMT
#1145
Arwen, the Evenstar
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#1146
On September 22 2011 03:31 syllogism wrote:
Also why are you role claiming medic to save a third party? Huh?


Because it was obvious to me I would not survive another cycle anyway so I may as well stop two easy lynches.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:34 GMT
#1151
On September 22 2011 03:33 kitaman27 wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:32 Drazerk wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:31 syllogism wrote:
Also why are you role claiming medic to save a third party? Huh?


Because it was obvious to me I would not survive another cycle anyway so I may as well stop two easy lynches.


Why wouldn't you survive another cycle?


Please you would of lynched me or if the clever scum among you pieced together my previous posts you would of known I knew too much about medic mechanics and put two and two together.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:35 GMT
#1154
On September 22 2011 03:34 Archon_Toilet wrote:
Drazerk you claimed to kill a townie. You do it here.

How can you be a medic and killing role at the same time?


Your a idiot.

I never once claimed I have a killing role rofl
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:35 GMT
#1155
On September 22 2011 03:35 syllogism wrote:
Now explain why you protected igrok


I have.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:47 GMT
#1172
On September 22 2011 03:47 Archon_Toilet wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?

I would like to add to this. Did you protect him last night or was it only during the day today?

If you protected him last night, chaoser needs to hang.


Last night.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 21 2011 18:48 GMT
#1174
On September 22 2011 03:47 prplhz wrote:
jcarlson, i mean from igrok's flip we can see if he is a veteran scum and thus would survive syllo's hit .. then drazerk obviously didn't protect him and he's scum ... if he flips non-veteran SK-type role then drazerk obviously did protect him and he's not scum.


And we all die together!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 21 2011 18:50 GMT
#1175
On September 22 2011 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?


Thought he would bit hit more than anything else.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 18:53 GMT
#1178
##vote: Palmar

Best choice right now in my opinion.

Busses his team mate but doesn't keep with it.

One of the first votes on the errandor bandwagon.

Largely useless day 1.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#1223
Jackal or palmar seem to be the choices for today.

Basically get your votes of iGrok and anyone who only has one vote.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 21:12 GMT
#1231
On September 22 2011 06:09 Jackal58 wrote:
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On September 22 2011 06:06 OriginalName wrote:
Im down for lynching one of those two but I havent decided which one I want to move to yet.

I still think Pyo is a decent lynch but I agree that vote spreading can be detremental at this point.

Radfield purely out of curiousity why Jackal over Palmar?

Scum buddies


Magic!
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 21:27 GMT
#1234
we have 1 hour left can we please get some discussion going on who we will lynch as we really need to consolidate our votes now.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 21:45 GMT
#1243
I'm also willing to shift to Jackal to consolidate our votes.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 21:47 GMT
#1246
lets do it then

##unvote:
##vote: Jackal58
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 21:49 GMT
#1248
On September 22 2011 06:46 GreYMisT wrote:
My vote will remain on Jackal. Radfield how do you recommend we direct IGrok's target?


we still have 5 people who have not voted on top of that two people have left the iGrok wagon so he doesn't have majority any more.

We should be fine bar a few possible mod kills.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 21:52 GMT
#1252
On September 22 2011 06:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I feel like I should bring up the arguments on Palmar yet again.
Here is the only post he ever made a significant response to, followed by said response:
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On September 22 2011 01:46 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 22 2011 01:11 Palmar wrote:
I'm not apathetic you derp, I'm highly enthusiastic about lynching iGrok!

Even if in some crazy world his claim is true (I don't fucking believe it for a second), then he's a survivor and can as well ally with the mafia if they do well.

Just kill him, I think he's not third party, I think he's scum, and should be deaded.


Use some of that enthusiasm and respond to the case he made against you
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 21 2011 19:31 iGrok wrote:
Oh, ##vote: Palmar.
For everything I said earlier.
+ Show Spoiler [For those of you who skipped my big post] +
On September 18 2011 08:24 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood so I'm not gonna ruin it by reading the thread. See you tomorrow

This was his first post. Nothing scummy here, but it sets the mood for everything else he posts.

Now, here's a list of his opinions since then.
Radfield, WBG, Errandor
prplhz
DrH
Radfield, himself, Sandroba, Pyo

Pause. Next post.

On September 20 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:
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On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote:
On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote:
prplhz should probably give the ring away to his strongest townread. I'd go with one of Radfield, Sandroba, myself and pyo.


Derp... prplhz said he doesn't actually have the ring.


In any case, if you're lying, you should consider giving it away.

btw, Sandroba is almost definitely town, but only if he takes his vote off me. I'm basically confirmed town from my exchanges with DrH, but only people like sandroba/syllo etc will see it.

We need to keep an eye on syllo... yarly.

chaoser is also very likely town. I don't like the smell of iGrok and Kita...

Here, minimal interaction with DrH is played off as enough to auto-confirm him. This post sets off alarm bells in my head. Palmar contributed 4 posts before DrH died, 2 of which were "Herp I'm not reading the thread" (He was obviously reading the thread). Its his fourth post that interests me: "DrH is giving me really bad vibes." At the time, it looked like just another throwaway post. But post DrH's death, this post looks more like DrH new he was going to be modkilled and Palmar jumped out early to get a townie point.

For the rest of the game, two things are going on. He puts faith in Radfield, and he continues to stress Sandroba town. (yes theres other shit but those're the important parts)

Palmar already feels scummy. So lets continue on that assumption, and introduce possibilities.
1)Radfield and Sandroba are both town. If this is true, then Palmar is trying to gain town cred when they flip. With sandroba acting scummy and a possible lynch, and Radfield a good mafia target, thats two points for him. Fits with calling DrH scum.
2)Radfield is town, Sandroba is scum. This is using Radfield's town cred to make Sandroba look better. Even those who don't trust Palmar will subliminally put them on closer levels. If sandroba didn't look so damn scummy, it might work.
3)Radfield is scum, Sandroba is town. I just... don't see this as possible.
4)Both are scum. I don't know what this would mean actually


And while your at it, care to answer my questions about you?
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 21 2011 21:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:20 Palmar wrote:
How is this even a discussion? Murder the shit out of iGrok.


This post aroused some serious suspcions on Palmar when I read it, he wants to shutdown discussion on other possible scum candidates apparently.
I took a look through his filter for some background, and subsequently lead me to believe he is scum.

When prodded by Syllogism to provide some background, he returns with this:
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On September 21 2011 19:12 Palmar wrote:
On September 21 2011 17:29 syllogism wrote:
On September 21 2011 17:22 Palmar wrote:
rofl, die scum die

Are you going to do anything useful all game?


I'm voting iGrok!


If bandwagoning is useful, then sure he's a great help.

But in the interests of being fair, let's look more at his voting on IGrok:
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On September 20 2011 22:32 Palmar wrote:
Erandorr worked because it was less bad a bandwagon than the others, which has now become apparent. DrH should really have been it, but I wasn't around to push them buttons. I never asked whom you have a town read on, giving that away would be incredibly stupid. I asked if you actually had a town read on someone, (the alternative being you don't have a town read on anyone). I was basically provoking you into start thinking about townies you can trust.

But I know it's extremely hard to work with you're stubborn and have really bad reads. I just hope that you'll be able to figure out what to do if you actually are the ring bearer. And I hope our medics understand that you're a great target tonight too.

In any case, it's time to lynch mafia.

##Vote iGrok


Up until this point, his comments on IGrok were
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On September 20 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the smell of iGrok and Kita...


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On September 20 2011 21:59 Palmar wrote:
iGrok's play is so much more passive and less assertive than it was in Ace's game. I'm thinking he's scummery. I'm gonna read the context of his posts better, but just a quick filter and you can see he's not really pushing any ideas, he's just being derp and making one-liners and lists.


So he doesn't like IGroks smell, and the rest of his reasoning relies on meta.
It doesn't get any better as time passes

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On September 21 2011 00:31 Palmar wrote:
Radfield, I'm looking at iGrok. I haven't gotten overly scummy vibes from anyone else (apart from DrH, but he's dead).

Syllogism is... dangerous, he's echoing what Sandroba and I are saying which makes sense if he's town, but he'd do it as scum anyway, because as soon as he disagrees on bad reasoning he's scum. He has made a few good calls though, but I expect him too, both as scum and town.

So the rest are probably lurking, or they're people like Jackal whose alignment I simply can't deduce due to him having a meta of being useless/wrong enough as town that I can't figure him out as scum.

Thing is, townies like posting more than mafia does, and I have quite a few good town reads. I'm actually reading now, so it'll pick up soon enough. We can only lynch one guy today anyway, and iGrok is a great candidate.

Go compare his style this game to his style as town in Ace's game, I'm not talking about content or amount, I'm talking about attitude and context.


Notice how everything he uses is purely meta?
This in itself is fine, but if you want to use meta, you have to do more than simply mention the word meta.
He doesn't prove a comparison of IGrok's current playstyle to this meta, nor does he choose to bring up anything related to IGrok's actions in the current game.

I'm not sold on IGrok either, but if this counts as a reason to vote for someone and useful contribution, somethings wrong.

##Unvote
##Vote Palmar


I feel like this whole case on iGrok is just mafia leading the lynch, because aside from his apparently senseless claim there isn't much on him. He could have just done what Palmar is doing right now and ignored anything that put him in a negative light, but he chose to come forward with his role, and now I believe the mafia are using the role claim to blind town from the questions we raise on them, the most notable of which being iGroks argument against Palmar attached to his role claim.


My replies are underlined, things I consider important are bolded

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On September 22 2011 02:25 Palmar wrote:
no you're not prplhz, and I agree with you.

I'm not going to respond to a case made by scum Cyber, sorry.

I can answer some of your questions though, because given the last game I played with you, you were dumb enough to believe shit like "mafia shoots people who are obviously town, but wrong" and then voting for obvious townies.

some things.

a) it's not bandwagoning when I'm the first person to vote him

He was under suspicion from yesterday. You did not provide any arguments outside of meta that you couldn't contrast for us.

b) discuss other people all you want, but not lynching iGrok would be nothing sort of stupid right now.

c) I always scumhunt on meta only. Call me bad for it, but I'm actually very effective at finding scum. I'm a bit of a dick so I'm less effective at convincing town.

I ignore cases other people bring up just in case people act the same as they did in previous games?

But yeah, iGrok claiming is weird and unbelievable.

Breaking down that reply leaves:
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On September 22 2011 04:04 Palmar wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I meant to say, at least that is what he claims.


well you're right, he does win with mafia

So, let me sum this shit up.

iGrok claims 3rd party role that wins with mafia.

We have Cyber_cheese defending him like the baddie he is, could be town/could be mafia

So if you aren't sure I'm scum why don't you reply to all my points instead of picking and choosing?

we have chaoser telling us to let mafia deal with him... what the hell? mafia would not shoot him in a million years. mafia.

and we have Drazerk claiming medic to save 3rd party (what the shit?) because he's sure mafia will go after him.... mafia. can't be this terrible.

This is hilarious.

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On September 22 2011 02:49 Palmar wrote:
On September 22 2011 02:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [nestled quote shown above] +
On September 22 2011 02:25 Palmar wrote:
no you're not prplhz, and I agree with you.

I'm not going to respond to a case made by scum Cyber, sorry.

I can answer some of your questions though, because given the last game I played with you, you were dumb enough to believe shit like "mafia shoots people who are obviously town, but wrong" and then voting for obvious townies.

some things.

a) it's not bandwagoning when I'm the first person to vote him

b) discuss other people all you want, but not lynching iGrok would be nothing sort of stupid right now.

c) I always scumhunt on meta only. Call me bad for it, but I'm actually very effective at finding scum. I'm a bit of a dick so I'm less effective at convincing town.

But yeah, iGrok claiming is weird and unbelievable.


So can you provide the meta your using with comparison or not?


I already stated it... day 1 of some mafia game by Ace.

It's really not relevant anymore since he claimed an anti town role. Then he claimed a medic save (no medic in their right mind would save him at that point).

So what exactly are you voting him on if this meta is inaccurate?


If we have a vigi he should be aiming his gun at palmar tonight.

It's best we consolidate onto jackal for today especially with how little time we have left
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 22:01 GMT
#1256
On September 22 2011 06:56 prplhz wrote:
well i never actually intended to leave igrok i still think he's the best lynch i just wanted to see how you people reacted. igrok is best lynch for today.


Shame he won't be lynched now thanks to your help.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 22:15 GMT
#1260
On September 22 2011 07:15 Palmar wrote:
i'd totally prefer lynching the confirmed anti-town. Jackal is a complete null to me atm.


Of course you would.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 23:04 GMT
#1271
Vigi shoot Palmar not iGrok

Medics protect me

if you have a decent medic target I am open to suggestions

And yeah I'm probably going to die now.
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#1276
On September 22 2011 08:07 prplhz wrote:
if any vig is stupid enough to listen to drazerk then he needs to get his brain scanned

if any medic is stupid enough to protect drazerk then he needs to get his brain scanned

medics protect those you think provide good analysis for town

vigs hold fire unless your trigger finger is really itchy but don't be a hero and shoot someone you think it would be really cool if they were scum


Protecting a medic is stupid?
Drazerk
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September 21 2011 23:11 GMT
#1279
On September 22 2011 08:09 Palmar wrote:
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On September 22 2011 08:04 Drazerk wrote:
Vigi shoot Palmar not iGrok

Medics protect me

if you have a decent medic target I am open to suggestions

And yeah I'm probably going to die now.


fuck off


Love you too
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 22 2011 17:08 GMT
#1373
Oh cool I am not going to die tonight because I am going to be used as a lynch target instead...

I am going to laugh so much when I flip

Also as for the posting restriction... lets just say I had one and now I don't.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#1378
On September 23 2011 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?


Why do you think syllo as a day vigi has some "extra powers on top"?


Because I didn't protect him and he managed to survive a hit.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 17:46 GMT
#1390
On September 23 2011 02:43 kitaman27 wrote:
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On September 23 2011 02:08 Drazerk wrote:
Also as for the posting restriction... lets just say I had one and now I don't.


Arwen, the Evenstar has a post restriction? Could you clarify what made it go away?


My role changes every game of Mafia I play.

How have you guys not learnt this yet.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 20:14 GMT
#1400
On September 23 2011 05:11 kitaman27 wrote:
I HAVE 15 NIGHT ACTIONS!

*evil laugh*


I have 9999.

beat that.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 20:17 GMT
#1402
On September 23 2011 05:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Technically missing 2 out of 3 night actions would still be missing most of them


Mafia KP
My medic heal ( used )
iGrok's hit

There's still bound to be more blues out there especially when you consider iGrok's and Mafia's aren't even mandatory / can be missed.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#1407
On September 23 2011 06:00 prplhz wrote:
so there are hobbits in this game?! interesting


The hobbits are a lie...
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#1426
Syllo was double stacked or the hit went through protection.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:07 GMT
#1427
Never mind I was role blocked >.<
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:13 GMT
#1431
On September 23 2011 08:09 GreYMisT wrote:
Whoever Radfield contacted during the night needs to claim in the thread. There have only been 2 night phases meaning only 1 or 2 people should claim being contacted. those people will then be confirmed town. If more people claim or counter claim, we now have a smaller pool of suspects from which mafia have to be in.


Remember we had a town role similar to this in day 1 so 3 people should be contacted.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:16 GMT
#1434
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!

You are Peregrin Took, Hobbit of the Fellowship, Town Messenger.

[image loading]

Active Ability
Messenger: Each night phase you may choose a target to communicate with privately over the next day phase. Your target will not be given your identity nor your alignment. You will not be given your target’s role nor alignment. I will provide you with the link to your Quicktopic at the start of the day phase. It is advised that you remain anonymous, posting under an identity not related to your role or name. You may not communicate with your target after the day phase is over unless you target them again.

You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.


Wiggle's role from night 1
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:19 GMT
#1438
Yeah I was mistaken Wiggles didn't get to use his ability
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:22 GMT
#1442
On September 23 2011 08:10 Curu wrote:
A message has been delivered to all within the realm!

The message reads:

JCARL IS UGLUK



We going to address this by the way?

High chance that mafia / third party are leaving these messages.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:29 GMT
#1445
On September 23 2011 08:25 GreYMisT wrote:
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On September 23 2011 08:21 OriginalName wrote:
On September 23 2011 08:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this message? Do you guys think it combines with the message from day1?


Ugluk is the orc who capped Merry and Pippen during two towers...


Well thank god someone knows the lore more than I do, I was trying to find permutations of Ugluk that made sense.

I Agree. Either we have pleased the mods and they have decided to make things easier for us, or something isnt right with this message. But that leaves a question: Why is this one so easy to understand, but none of us could figure out the first one?


I came up with three possibilities

1. That is a translated version of the day 1. ( DT scans sends message then someone else translates?)
2. Mafia have left this to try and trick us.
3. Curu likes giving us scum?

Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:37 GMT
#1449
Unless mafia has two role blockers iGrok should have killed someone last night.
Drazerk
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September 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#1450
Looking at the flavour text for each kill it's more than likely he killed syllo or didn't kill at all.
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 15:52 GMT
#1577
On September 24 2011 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 24 2011 00:45 GGQ wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Kita, let's lynch iGrok today.

By your logic we have 2 sks, one of them has successfully killed mafia, let's reward him with another night!


chaoser can only die to a lynch while a vig can dispatch iGrok (assuming we have one left)


But vig cant shoot him cos Drazerk is protecting him.


You know except for the fact that I was role blocked...

Also we're not lynching chaoser today.

iGrok failed to kill anyone and I doubt scum will have two role blockers so despite yesterday's antics he is actually a good target to go lynch.
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#1584
On September 24 2011 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 24 2011 00:52 Drazerk wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:45 GGQ wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Kita, let's lynch iGrok today.

By your logic we have 2 sks, one of them has successfully killed mafia, let's reward him with another night!


chaoser can only die to a lynch while a vig can dispatch iGrok (assuming we have one left)


But vig cant shoot him cos Drazerk is protecting him.


You know except for the fact that I was role blocked...

Also we're not lynching chaoser today.

iGrok failed to kill anyone and I doubt scum will have two role blockers so despite yesterday's antics he is actually a good target to go lynch.


Yeah, the problem is only scum (and you if you don't belong to them) know if you actually were RB'd. If iGrok flips scum, i'm 100% sure you will do it too. Hope we see that tonight. ^^


Was anyone role blocked day 2?

Should be easy enough to prove if so.
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 16:05 GMT
#1586
On September 24 2011 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 24 2011 00:58 Drazerk wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:52 Drazerk wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:45 GGQ wrote:
On September 24 2011 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Kita, let's lynch iGrok today.

By your logic we have 2 sks, one of them has successfully killed mafia, let's reward him with another night!


chaoser can only die to a lynch while a vig can dispatch iGrok (assuming we have one left)


But vig cant shoot him cos Drazerk is protecting him.


You know except for the fact that I was role blocked...

Also we're not lynching chaoser today.

iGrok failed to kill anyone and I doubt scum will have two role blockers so despite yesterday's antics he is actually a good target to go lynch.


Yeah, the problem is only scum (and you if you don't belong to them) know if you actually were RB'd. If iGrok flips scum, i'm 100% sure you will do it too. Hope we see that tonight. ^^


Was anyone role blocked day 2?

Should be easy enough to prove if so.


Why everyone seems to think mafia can't mislead town by not using all their capable actions?


Filter me on that one

Na no one claimed role block which means they probably RB + shot someone or just didn't role block or a blue role blocked me.
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 16:53 GMT
#1598
On September 24 2011 01:39 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 01:35 kitaman27 wrote:
jcarl, you don't buy the fake claim do you?


Chaoser's fake claim? I'm not sure. I'm in class atm and I want to look back before I make any decision about it.

One thing I'm worried about is that Drazerk lived through the night. I understand that he is claiming to be role blocked, but why wouldn't they just kill him? I might be missing something. If you kill a medic, doesn't that render his target unprotected as well? I don't understand why mafia would leave a claimed medic alive.


My protection lasts after I die so killing me would still protect the person I protected for the following day.

Also Im an easy lynch target at the moment due to the whole iGrok / eran thing
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#1601
##vote: iGrok

Yes I understand that if he flips scum that means I die.

He didn't use his kill and there is no way in hell he can claim role block with me being role blocked.
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 17:26 GMT
#1603
On September 24 2011 02:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 01:56 Palmar wrote:
Sometimes it's just so hard to convince people to do the right thing, because for some reason no one ever realizes what the right action is. Given the situation we're in where we allowed scum to wiggle out of a lynch on day 2 because despite the win condition we all have clearly saying we need to clear all evil out of midgard, yet we let a balrog live when the lore clearly states he's pretty damn evil. I can't believe it's even up for discussion going after a vigilante/SK that decided to kill mafia last night without anyone counterclaiming him. There is just no chance in a game with fake-claims that Boromir the SK is more evil than Balrog the neutral peace-loving fire demon guy. But Kita in his almighty knowledge decided that chaoser must be eliminated immediately yet it's fine to allow iGrok to shuffle by another day. I want to remind you that iGrok was supposed by Kita's own terms to actively scumhunt and not just back away from the game, and yet he's done exactly that. Kita doesn't actually give a shit for obvious reasons. Once again I beg you to go back and read everything posted by both Syllogism and Sandroba because they are the best players that are dead in this game. But hey, why should you listen to me, I'm sometimes a dick! Syllogism pointed out how stupidly heist believes claims randomly (lol, pacific ocean), and jcarl doesn't want to trust me because he's way too busy being thick. Cheesekid is scum though, not even him can be this dumb. It's ok though we just need to lynch iGrok and everything suddenly becomes alright again. Note how fast Kita claimed chaoser was an SK, he knows he's not scum etc. Also he earlier in the game said "Chaoser for SK" because he knows mafia hit chaoser, then corrects himself and says that maybe he could be scum. Kita is just crazy scummy right now. But apparently me changing my mind is more scummy, because you know... it's not cool giving things second thoughts, we should always just go with whatever we first think of right? I'm actually just going to leave the thread for a while, maybe town will not suck so hard when I'm back in some hours.


Look, we both agree iGrok can't be allowed to live to engame. If he gets lynched today, then that's fine by me. If there is a chance he is scum, not survivor, it might even be a better choice to kill him first. However, there is no doubt in my mind that chaoser is not town. On day one he took a hit. On day two, he got caught red handed killing someone. On day three, he comes up with an extremely convienent role that explains both the hit and the killing. The fact that you believe there is a town aligned bulletproof compulsive vig just blows my mid. chaoser is probably going to shoot me tonight. The only "conditions" his shots have is that the person has to be a threat to him. He can't be allowed to laugh his merry way to victory as a "Boromir", when it is beyond obvious that he is not.


Jack of all trades role.

Calling it now.
Drazerk
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September 23 2011 17:57 GMT
#1609
On September 24 2011 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:26 Drazerk wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:19 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 24 2011 01:56 Palmar wrote:
Sometimes it's just so hard to convince people to do the right thing, because for some reason no one ever realizes what the right action is. Given the situation we're in where we allowed scum to wiggle out of a lynch on day 2 because despite the win condition we all have clearly saying we need to clear all evil out of midgard, yet we let a balrog live when the lore clearly states he's pretty damn evil. I can't believe it's even up for discussion going after a vigilante/SK that decided to kill mafia last night without anyone counterclaiming him. There is just no chance in a game with fake-claims that Boromir the SK is more evil than Balrog the neutral peace-loving fire demon guy. But Kita in his almighty knowledge decided that chaoser must be eliminated immediately yet it's fine to allow iGrok to shuffle by another day. I want to remind you that iGrok was supposed by Kita's own terms to actively scumhunt and not just back away from the game, and yet he's done exactly that. Kita doesn't actually give a shit for obvious reasons. Once again I beg you to go back and read everything posted by both Syllogism and Sandroba because they are the best players that are dead in this game. But hey, why should you listen to me, I'm sometimes a dick! Syllogism pointed out how stupidly heist believes claims randomly (lol, pacific ocean), and jcarl doesn't want to trust me because he's way too busy being thick. Cheesekid is scum though, not even him can be this dumb. It's ok though we just need to lynch iGrok and everything suddenly becomes alright again. Note how fast Kita claimed chaoser was an SK, he knows he's not scum etc. Also he earlier in the game said "Chaoser for SK" because he knows mafia hit chaoser, then corrects himself and says that maybe he could be scum. Kita is just crazy scummy right now. But apparently me changing my mind is more scummy, because you know... it's not cool giving things second thoughts, we should always just go with whatever we first think of right? I'm actually just going to leave the thread for a while, maybe town will not suck so hard when I'm back in some hours.


Look, we both agree iGrok can't be allowed to live to engame. If he gets lynched today, then that's fine by me. If there is a chance he is scum, not survivor, it might even be a better choice to kill him first. However, there is no doubt in my mind that chaoser is not town. On day one he took a hit. On day two, he got caught red handed killing someone. On day three, he comes up with an extremely convienent role that explains both the hit and the killing. The fact that you believe there is a town aligned bulletproof compulsive vig just blows my mid. chaoser is probably going to shoot me tonight. The only "conditions" his shots have is that the person has to be a threat to him. He can't be allowed to laugh his merry way to victory as a "Boromir", when it is beyond obvious that he is not.


Jack of all trades role.

Calling it now.


Jack of all trades are not bulletproof, nor can they shoot more than once.


Please he's lying about the bullet proof thing to make scum not shoot him.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 23 2011 21:17 GMT
#1631
On September 24 2011 06:08 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 05:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 24 2011 05:23 iGrok wrote:
On September 24 2011 05:21 heist wrote:
You do realize your best chance is to offer him up to take your place. Play to win.

The moment I flip his name, I'm going to get lynched anyways and he'll be shot at night.


If you give us a reason to keep you around, then you might not be lynched. Holding out information is pointless.

@rayn: if I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather lynch igrok over chaoser right now. But neither of them really sit right with me as lynches. I'm not experienced enough in games with third parties to know what's best.

If I'm not in the lead at 15 minutes before the lynch, I'll reveal. Otherwise you'll just kill me anyways.


We're not going to switch without the information anyway in fact we are more likely to lynch you.

We're not going to let you use this information you may or may not have as a bargaining chip to escape the lynch.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 23 2011 22:46 GMT
#1639
On September 24 2011 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
heist: What is ON flips town? Then we have to lynch iGrok for the THIRD time lol. And no matter what he flips after that is gonna be you. And if your analysis on ON was just horribly wrong, we had wasted 3 townmembers just to lynch iGrok.

Guess what, then it's no use to even talk about LYLO anymore..

I'm not even considering to switch my vote off iGrok, unless he actually starts doing something (aka tells us who saruman is). He already failed to shoot last night, and now he comes up with this Saruman thing. Also i'm curious why Drazerk isn't dead already.


I've explained this to you.

I am controllable until they lose their RBer and on top of this I am a very easy lynch target due to my connection with iGrok it makes no sense for Mafia to kill me yet.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 23 2011 23:29 GMT
#1657
On September 24 2011 08:19 OriginalName wrote:
WHAT IS WITH TOWNIES FAKE CLAIMING THIS GAME.

FFS STOP IT BEFORE AND NOT AFTER I FUCKING EXPLODE.


Claiming mad hatter?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 20:50 GMT
#1721
iGrok's claim is far to convenient.

Kill him now we can have a real DT ( I hope we have one left ) check ON depending on the flip.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 20:56 GMT
#1724
On September 25 2011 05:54 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 05:50 Drazerk wrote:
iGrok's claim is far to convenient.

Kill him now we can have a real DT ( I hope we have one left ) check ON depending on the flip.


because that DT would be anymore believable than iGrok... stop saying stupid things.


Yes he would to be honest.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 21:19 GMT
#1726
On September 25 2011 06:13 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 05:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 25 2011 05:54 Pyo wrote:
On September 25 2011 05:50 Drazerk wrote:
iGrok's claim is far to convenient.

Kill him now we can have a real DT ( I hope we have one left ) check ON depending on the flip.


because that DT would be anymore believable than iGrok... stop saying stupid things.


Yes he would to be honest.


Are you serious? Because that is absolutely retarded...


Give me a reason why we should trust iGrok any more.

I am clearly at a loss.
Drazerk
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September 24 2011 21:31 GMT
#1732
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:01 GMT
#1746
So Jcarl is probably town

And I am probably dead
Drazerk
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September 24 2011 23:03 GMT
#1752
On September 25 2011 08:02 prplhz wrote:
@drazerk

only scum should feel as guilty as you do, so stop saying that you need to die all the time


No scum is going to kill me now I have no purpose
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:03 GMT
#1753
On September 25 2011 08:03 Palmar wrote:
it's magic!


MY LINE!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:05 GMT
#1756
On September 25 2011 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah, Drazerk, i hope you don't claim RB next day, and protect some decent target.


Sadly I will be role blocked or killed regardless

Our only hope now is if chaoser kills another scum but he's probably going to die as well.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:06 GMT
#1758
On September 25 2011 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also, that basically means ON is town, i doubt mafia would take a risk to frame some other mafia member to protect iGrok.

And that meas heist is mafia.


Yeah heist can go die
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:06 GMT
#1760
On September 23 2011 08:10 Curu wrote:
A message has been delivered to all within the realm!

The message reads:

JCARL IS UGLUK



Quoting to remind you fools.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:10 GMT
#1762
On September 25 2011 08:08 GreYMisT wrote:
Damn, iGrok wins the award for ballsiest claim ever


Still think my mad monk claim from WaW2 was better.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:13 GMT
#1765
On September 25 2011 08:11 GreYMisT wrote:
That game was before my time, but i keep hearing things about it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237920&user=107918

Enjoy my filter from that game
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:23 GMT
#1769
On September 25 2011 08:19 Palmar wrote:
game solved.

pyo, heist and cheesekid are the remaining scum


Chaoser shoot Heist

We can lynch Pyo tomorrow

And because they have to role block me or chaoser they will probably role block chaoser and kill me.

( Protection through death at least )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:29 GMT
#1775
On September 25 2011 08:26 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 08:19 Palmar wrote:
game solved.

pyo, heist and cheesekid are the remaining scum


Doubt it, i doubt scum is stupid enough to out all 3 of their members. Definitly one or two on my wagon though.


Never underestimate the stupidity of others.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:35 GMT
#1779
On September 25 2011 08:33 prplhz wrote:
who the hell dayhit syllo on day2?

i have the ring and i've had it all game and i might need some sort of protection tonight

also, there are 6 scum so you're missing someone on your list palmar

@chaoser

who are you going to hit tonight? can you pick your target yourself?


ILL PROTECT YOU!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#1781
Provided I am not role blocked of course
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:41 GMT
#1786
On September 25 2011 08:39 prplhz wrote:
well there are 2 scenarios

1) i don't have a reason for revealing it, it was just totally arbitrary

2) i have a reason for revealing it now

it's one of those two


Your frodo

Of course it is 2
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 24 2011 23:42 GMT
#1787
On September 25 2011 08:38 prplhz wrote:
yea i was kinda hoping someone else would read it too but with your role disclosed (btw, nice job admitting you're a medic to protect a claimed 3rd party turned out to be scum) and erandorr dead i doubt it .. but i kinda had to go for it


And sadly this isn't the worst I've ever done while being a medic ( Arkham )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 24 2011 23:51 GMT
#1791
On September 25 2011 08:48 Palmar wrote:
if he announces that and says he'll hit mafia, they'll roleblock him, don't be silly


Agreed it's better they role block me.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 24 2011 23:57 GMT
#1794
On September 25 2011 08:55 prplhz wrote:
nm, scum is going to kill chaoser and me and roleblock drazerk tonight


At least his hit will go through
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 00:35 GMT
#1797
Actually chaoser don't worry about the role block I have a method to get around it now.

( That is literally all I can tell you )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 25 2011 00:43 GMT
#1798
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 00:59 GMT
#1800
On September 25 2011 09:47 prplhz wrote:
great so i'm gonna survive and chaoser will hit cyber_cheese and then he will get hit himself.

result: one dead scum one dead SK/townie and the ring will stay safe


Hopefully unless he gets role blocked instead but that's still good as we survive.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 01:02 GMT
#1802
On September 25 2011 10:01 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I've been thinking about this ever since he flipped, I didn't understand iGrok's motivation for such an unsafe claim, so I made assumptions that ended up making an ass out of me.
It makes so much more sense if the plan was to bus iGrok from the beginning.


Magic!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 15:43 GMT
#1829
On September 26 2011 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
chaoser & drazerk:

Pick your targets carefully tonight. Especially chaoser, don't tell your target to anyone, and make up your own mind, cos your judgement is far better than mine at least.


Don't worry should I make it to tomorrow ill have found that annoying role blocker and we'll be able to lynch him.
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 15:53 GMT
#1831
On September 26 2011 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 00:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 26 2011 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
chaoser & drazerk:

Pick your targets carefully tonight. Especially chaoser, don't tell your target to anyone, and make up your own mind, cos your judgement is far better than mine at least.


Don't worry should I make it to tomorrow ill have found that annoying role blocker and we'll be able to lynch him.


You mean you know him now, or tomorrow, if you are alive?


Tomorrow

I'd give you the name if I already knew
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 16:01 GMT
#1833
On September 26 2011 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Drazerk, since chaoser is apparently not here, when do you need to leave your night actions?


Any time before the day post I believe. I normally do it a hour or so before just in case anything new pops up throughout the night.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 19:15 GMT
#1838
On September 26 2011 04:14 heist wrote:
Palmar always claims he's confirmed townie. Don't look too much into it.


Look in to it detectives.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 21:45 GMT
#1845
On September 26 2011 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@GGQ

chaoser
cheese
kita
archon
heist
pyo
supersoft

those were the people who voted against igrok at some point yesterday, where do we start?


not aimed at me I know but If we use day 2 lynches as well we get the following people -

chaoser
heist
Pyo
Cyber_cheese
Archon_Toilet

And from that list I would say Heist / cheese would be best place to start.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 22:26 GMT
#1847
On September 26 2011 07:22 Pyo wrote:
Aren't we still during the night phase? Seems a little premature to decide the lynch target given that there's several KP out there.


Beats lurking for 24 hours.
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:08 GMT
#1856
prplhz was double stacked.

Also suck it scum I survived!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 23:09 GMT
#1858
Apparently I protected my target from a hit last night

prplhz was 100% double stacked
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:12 GMT
#1864
On September 26 2011 08:09 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
prplhz was double stacked.

Also suck it scum I survived!


Who's the roleblocker?


Yeah I was lying to get scum to shoot at me rather than role block me, I got Syllo's motivation and protected both prplhz and yourself and felt me dying would be better than missing out on both protections.

I still survived though and I have no idea how.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#1867
oh and prplhz claimed he had the ring he was going to be taking a hit from somebody.

I think it's more likely scum + 3rd party hit him rather than scum double stacking however
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:14 GMT
#1868
On September 26 2011 08:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why was he double stacked?


He claimed he had the ring for some reason.


He was frodo - The rings corruption means he has to pass it on after a while.
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:20 GMT
#1874
On September 26 2011 08:18 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:09 chaoser wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
prplhz was double stacked.

Also suck it scum I survived!


Who's the roleblocker?


Yeah I was lying to get scum to shoot at me rather than role block me, I got Syllo's motivation and protected both prplhz and yourself and felt me dying would be better than missing out on both protections.

I still survived though and I have no idea how.


So you're saying there were four KPs to account for? 1 for supersoft, 2 for prplhz, 1 for you?


There is 4 KP in place yes.

although it could be -

1 super soft
1 me
1 prplhz ( Unblockable )
1 you
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 25 2011 23:20 GMT
#1875
On September 26 2011 08:17 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 08:14 Drazerk wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:13 GreYMisT wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why was he double stacked?


He claimed he had the ring for some reason.


He was frodo - The rings corruption means he has to pass it on after a while.


That makes sense. Didn't you say that today you would know the identity of the roleblocker?


I lied - Read up
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:24 GMT
#1883
On September 26 2011 08:22 TranceStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 08:20 Drazerk wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:18 chaoser wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:09 chaoser wrote:
On September 26 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
prplhz was double stacked.

Also suck it scum I survived!


Who's the roleblocker?


Yeah I was lying to get scum to shoot at me rather than role block me, I got Syllo's motivation and protected both prplhz and yourself and felt me dying would be better than missing out on both protections.

I still survived though and I have no idea how.


So you're saying there were four KPs to account for? 1 for supersoft, 2 for prplhz, 1 for you?


There is 4 KP in place yes.

although it could be -

1 super soft
1 me
1 prplhz ( Unblockable )
1 you

That makes no sense. On night 2 mafia killed syllogism and sandroba (Vain was modkilled). That means a KP of at least 2. Yet somehow, their KP jumped substantially higher despite the fact that they lost 2 mafia members.


Retarded vigilantes / powered up third party would be my guess.
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:34 GMT
#1898
Look if your controlling the messages just own up to it now and make it easier for all of us.
Drazerk
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September 25 2011 23:59 GMT
#1913
On September 26 2011 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Btw. Drazerk, you were not RB, so who did you protect?


prplhz and chaoser

at least one took a hit last night but I don't know which.

more likely that prplhz was double stacked though
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#1916
from syllo's flip -

[Oneshot]King of Men: One time during the game during the night phase, you may assume leadership and provide motivation. Your target will be able to perform two night actions during the next night phase. If you target a player with no abilities, your oneshot will still not be refunded.
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#1917
Actually chaoser did you take a hit last night you should of gotten a PM if you did.
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:10 GMT
#1920
On September 26 2011 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that means mafia has 1 KP, and there is a SK, other than chaoser? Am I right?


I also took a hit

Your looking at -

2 scum KP
1/2 ring seeking third parties
possibly a retarded vigilante
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:15 GMT
#1921
Curu just confirmed that prplhz took more than one hit last night.
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:18 GMT
#1922
so for the record -

Drazerk - 1 hit survived ( Probably scum )
prplhz - 2 hits and died ( At least one will be third party after the ring )
supersoft - 1 hit died ( Vigilante possibly? )

4 kp in place.
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:24 GMT
#1928
On September 26 2011 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 09:15 Drazerk wrote:
Curu just confirmed that prplhz took more than one hit last night.


Why would he confirm that? Can we also ask who hit him? Lolz


Because I was protected more than one target last night and he didn't specify which one took the hit and chaoser is being purposely cryptic.

In any normal set up the medic knows their target and if they took a hit or not this is no different.

Cute vote by the way.
Drazerk
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September 26 2011 00:25 GMT
#1930
On September 26 2011 09:25 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 09:24 Drazerk wrote:
On September 26 2011 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2011 09:15 Drazerk wrote:
Curu just confirmed that prplhz took more than one hit last night.


Why would he confirm that? Can we also ask who hit him? Lolz


Because I was protected more than one target last night and he didn't specify which one took the hit and chaoser is being purposely cryptic.

In any normal set up the medic knows their target and if they took a hit or not this is no different.

Cute vote by the way.


I wasn't shot, I told you.


My bad it doesn't matter now anyway.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 26 2011 07:07 GMT
#1948
On September 26 2011 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are so sum, and heist is with you.


Your a idiot.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 26 2011 07:07 GMT
#1949
On September 26 2011 16:07 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are so sum, and heist is with you.


Your a idiot.


Well possibly right about the heist thing but we will get to that later
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 26 2011 16:11 GMT
#1997
##vote: Palmar

We're not letting another scum claim third party and troll their way to victory.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#2003
On September 27 2011 01:40 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 01:11 Drazerk wrote:
##vote: Palmar

We're not letting another scum claim third party and troll their way to victory.


How does this even make sense...He didn't claim third party and why would mafia so such a thing, much less by someone that pretty much led the iGrok lynch and has almost 0 suspicions on him.


Filter him... he's been faking gollum since day 1
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#2093
Rayn -

I protected chaoser because I think he's lying about being bulletproof - I even said that the day he claimed. I already explained that I lied about finding the role blocker so Mafia would kill me last night. I didn't know I would survive today and to be honest it would of been better had they killed me. I did my job last night and ill be role blocked tonight so you idiots can lynch me tomorrow.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#2094
On September 28 2011 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
There were 20+ players in the game. Its unreasonable to think I would just risk a tracker claim and hope I was right. If the 1/20+ odds don't go my way, then I'm lynched for lying. The fact is, I am a tracker and I wasn't lying. As for being a mafia tracker, I don't recall ever playing in a game where scum could track people. Even it its possible, 99% of the time, the tracker is town aligned. Don't overthink this.

Also, isn't it convenient that nobody else is committing one way or another until they see where the safe lynch is? People like draz have completely disappeared.


MAGIC!

And badly timed...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:54 GMT
#2096
On September 28 2011 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yep, pretty much all people have disappeared. My vote is still on Drazerk, and i won't change it unless he's going to defend himself someway. And i hope that all the remaining players think of these cases as well, regardless of what you think of these two.

Chaoser is a safe lynch yes, but i'd be rather lynching scum than 3rd party.


Your basically going to ignore everything I have said and I have done enough harm to the town that you are well within your right to kill me, just do it tomorrow so we tie up the role blocker for another night.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:58 GMT
#2099
On September 28 2011 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 00:52 Drazerk wrote:
Rayn -

I protected chaoser because I think he's lying about being bulletproof - I even said that the day he claimed. I already explained that I lied about finding the role blocker so Mafia would kill me last night. I didn't know I would survive today and to be honest it would of been better had they killed me. I did my job last night and ill be role blocked tonight so you idiots can lynch me tomorrow.


How do you explain the mafia hit on prplhz when you clearly stated you are protecting him last night? And the fact that you know it was a double hit? These both together makes you look so scummy i can't even explain.


medics are clearly told that they protected their target from a hit the previous night. If it was unblockable I wouldn't of gotten that message. It is as simple as that.

also I don't think mafia are stupid enough to hit SS and I can probably guess that they hit me unless a vigilante wants to own up to it.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:11 GMT
#2105
On September 28 2011 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 00:58 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:52 Drazerk wrote:
Rayn -

I protected chaoser because I think he's lying about being bulletproof - I even said that the day he claimed. I already explained that I lied about finding the role blocker so Mafia would kill me last night. I didn't know I would survive today and to be honest it would of been better had they killed me. I did my job last night and ill be role blocked tonight so you idiots can lynch me tomorrow.


How do you explain the mafia hit on prplhz when you clearly stated you are protecting him last night? And the fact that you know it was a double hit? These both together makes you look so scummy i can't even explain.


medics are clearly told that they protected their target from a hit the previous night. If it was unblockable I wouldn't of gotten that message. It is as simple as that.

also I don't think mafia are stupid enough to hit SS and I can probably guess that they hit me unless a vigilante wants to own up to it.


I didn't ask how did you find out that prp was double hit, i want know how are you able to explain it, unless you didn't actually protect him. Would you as mafia hit a guy who is basically claimed bulletproof next night, just becouse you hope it's gonna be a double stack?


He didn't claim bulletproof all he had was me saying I was going to protect him which I could of been lying about.

It makes all the sense to hit him and steal the ring from him to power them selves up.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:38 GMT
#2116
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:43 GMT
#2120
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:47 GMT
#2128
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:52 GMT
#2134
On September 28 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring.


That is imo quite a gamble.


And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble.


That one i'd rather call a stupid gamble.


Which one is a stupid gamble? Please post more clearly and not just in one liners. I have a hard time understanding/following your thoughts


No one understands Rayn anymore
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:25 GMT
#2153
On September 28 2011 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


I know the explanation. Drazerk is scum.


No I am just the reason why scum are probably going to win unless we lynch scum today.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:30 GMT
#2157
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:35 GMT
#2166
On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]

Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:38 GMT
#2171
On September 28 2011 02:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]

To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.


So are you saying you're not a medic anymore? How convenient...


No I am still a medic I lied about the role changing to throw mafia off -.-
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#2173
On September 28 2011 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]

To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.


It could also be a lie that syllo gave you double action. Maybe he didn't give it to anyone. Maybe he did give it to you. I dunno.

You also have claimed you had a posting restriction, how does that make sense to a town medic? Btw, what was your posting restriction, now that it's gone?


Can't say don't even bother asking.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:46 GMT
#2185
On September 28 2011 02:45 GMarshal wrote:
[image loading]


I am claiming Saruman, the Misunderstood Good Wizard.

I killed Curu and Mig, because I like helping the town. I crumbed this earlier.


##Captain planet
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:52 GMT
#2195
On September 28 2011 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:49 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:47 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
btw

@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts:

Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it.

Now stop it, let's kill kita.


Thank you...


Basically Curu confirmed that
1) the medic protected two people
2) the medic was informed later that one of the people he protected was hit.

So unless some other double protecting medic wants to come out, Drazerk is the medic and since he protected someone I assume his claim is true (that he didn't know who he protected at first and then he did later)

You can't fake claim that shit unless it was real lol


Draz also claimed a hit, so if he is telling the truth, there must be at least 1 other protective role. With the jailer that already flipped, does it really make sense for town to have 3 medics? I think not.


Syllo protected me with his heal move.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 18:00 GMT
#2204
On September 28 2011 02:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
btw

@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts:

Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it.

Now stop it, let's kill kita.


Sorry, i misread the other mod post. Yeah, i'm up for lynching kita.

##Unvote

##Vote Kitaman27


...

GGQ, Grey, ON, Archon, Cheese, heist, Tance, Pyro...do any of you guys have an opinion or are you all going to sit back and watch the mislynch?


Wouldn't be Mafia is half the town lurked
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#2214
On September 28 2011 04:12 Palmar wrote:
we need more votes on kita, at this rate mafia can basically scumswitch and own us.


I agree with this except with the kita thing what I am still not sure about yet.

as for now...

##unvote:

I have plans for you palmar...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 20:55 GMT
#2231
On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


I still think SS was hit by third party over mafia until a vigilante owns up to hitting me
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#2232
On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


But yeah I agree it's weird he has been able to survive this long ( Considering we have been role blocked / shot at each night since announcing our blueness )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#2235
On September 28 2011 06:09 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


But yeah I agree it's weird he has been able to survive this long ( Considering we have been role blocked / shot at each night since announcing our blueness )


Drazerk, you say all this and yet you're still voting for palmer. Are you willing to change your vote to kitaman?


I unvoted ages ago I am still undecided how I am going to vote
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 21:44 GMT
#2259
Magic!

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#2265
You guys are really going to spread the votes more?

>.>
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#2267
On September 28 2011 07:08 heist wrote:
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?


No which is why I am not voting for either at the moment
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:13 GMT
#2272
Something tells me scum have already voted.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#2273
On September 28 2011 07:13 Drazerk wrote:
Something tells me scum have already voted.


Or they are probably going to get mod killed
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:22 GMT
#2278
On September 28 2011 07:21 OriginalName wrote:
Ok I personally think Kita is the scummiest person out of the viable lynch targets.

Moreover he still refuses to reveal who he tracked other than Chaoser, and while for all we know its just a gambit to buy Town-cred. Sorry I havent been all that active today yesterday was a clusterfuck and by the time I get back from classes and stuff Its around this time.

##Vote Kitaman


MAGIC!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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September 27 2011 22:27 GMT
#2286
On September 28 2011 07:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 07:23 OriginalName wrote:
On September 28 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 28 2011 07:21 OriginalName wrote:
Ok I personally think Kita is the scummiest person out of the viable lynch targets.

Moreover he still refuses to reveal who he tracked other than Chaoser, and while for all we know its just a gambit to buy Town-cred. Sorry I havent been all that active today yesterday was a clusterfuck and by the time I get back from classes and stuff Its around this time.

##Vote Kitaman


haha nice to see you finally show up at the last minute. Nice one.


Its not like I do it on purpose ._.


Answer me this:
Do you honestly think I took a 1/20 shot and lied about tracking?
Also, why did you claim a vanilla town Arwen, the Evenstar so easily when it was clear iGrok was just fishing for blues?


Im arwen?
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 22:32 GMT
#2299
vote: OriginalName

It's magic
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 22:56 GMT
#2335
Vote ON and be done with it.
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 22:57 GMT
#2341
Magic!

Lets see if we get a lynch swing after all
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 22:59 GMT
#2346
Scum choose who sends the hits each night don't they very possible for ON not to kill anyone with 3 scum left
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:00 GMT
#2349
On September 28 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 07:59 Drazerk wrote:
Scum choose who sends the hits each night don't they very possible for ON not to kill anyone with 3 scum left


Do we know they choose or is it random?


No idea but every time I've played scum on TL we choose who sends out the kills
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:02 GMT
#2356
On September 28 2011 08:01 Palmar wrote:
rofl


MAGIC!
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:07 GMT
#2368
Chaoser shoot Palmar tonight please...
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:08 GMT
#2369
In fact Mafia shoot Palmar tonight please
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:10 GMT
#2376
On September 28 2011 08:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
In fact Mafia shoot Palmar tonight please


screw you, I'm allying with mafia. I'm murdering a townie with my 2kp kill, that's how prplhz died, rofl.


And this is why we don't save people who have been role claiming gollum since day one
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:10 GMT
#2379
I am not letting Palmar win a game as third party.

End of discussion.
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:11 GMT
#2382
On September 28 2011 08:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:09 kitaman27 wrote:
lol has the third party faction just achieved victory or something? o.O


no, I'm gollum.

I have to survive till the end of the game, I have a kp, and I only win if by the end of the game I'm in possession of the ring.

So, town can hardly afford lynching me, but mafia likes my KP, so I'm just gonna ally with mafia.


I'm still up for lynching you

Not like town is going to win anyway
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:12 GMT
#2385
On September 28 2011 08:12 GreYMisT wrote:
How do you know his win condition?
I mean if he is gollum it makes sense i suppose.


He just stated his win conditions... we need to kill him before the game ends
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:13 GMT
#2389
On September 28 2011 08:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:11 kitaman27 wrote:
What stops the town from just lynching your tomorrow?


they have to lynch mafia to lower kp to 1!


or you know we can kill you and reduce mafia aligned KP?
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:14 GMT
#2393
On September 28 2011 08:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:12 kitaman27 wrote:
What extra power did you get for obtaining the ring?


let's just say you should probably not visit me tonight lol


Bluffing

Kill him.
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:22 GMT
#2408
On September 28 2011 08:22 chaoser wrote:
Either way you're dying tonight and you can't do a single thing to me. I suggest mafia stay out of this and not waste their RB on me. Especially with a medic in play that could block your kill.


Two medics
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:23 GMT
#2410
On September 28 2011 08:23 kitaman27 wrote:
chaoser, what happens when you obtain the ring for killing Palmar?


we all bow down to our new SK god
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:24 GMT
#2413
On September 28 2011 08:24 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:23 kitaman27 wrote:
chaoser, what happens when you obtain the ring for killing Palmar?


suffice to say, you should lynch him after that.


If you want him dead he lives.

♥
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:26 GMT
#2417
May as well chaoser we're all backing you anyway
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:27 GMT
#2419
On September 28 2011 08:26 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:26 Palmar wrote:
what chaoser isn't telling is that the game ends in a 3rd party victory if he survives


Does the same condition apply, if you survive the night?


Yes it does.

KILL HIM
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:28 GMT
#2421
On September 28 2011 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:
How come I have a feeling you guys share a joint victory and are just trolling us until the day post comes -_-


Provided palmar dies ill still be happy.
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:30 GMT
#2428
On September 28 2011 08:28 kitaman27 wrote:
lol draz, are you another third party to get added into the mix? The vengeful serial killing medic?


Na I just want palmar dead
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:32 GMT
#2433
On September 28 2011 08:31 Palmar wrote:
I've been playing intentionally shitty and throwing out bad accusations (lol, radfield town... and sand/syllo scummy) to get mafia not to shoot me.

I genuinely thought kita was scum though.


##neutral mad monk ability
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:33 GMT
#2438
On September 28 2011 08:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:32 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 08:30 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2011 08:28 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 08:25 kitaman27 wrote:
chaoser, mind sharing your real claim and ability?


I got two active abilities:

1) I kill someone
2) I check a votelist to see if anyone in it has the ring

I also have the passive ability of being bulletproof


if you're bulletproof I'll murder curu, because I have the same abilities, but I'm not bulletproof.

also, you're probably not bulletproof.


You got 2 KP, I only have the one. I actually did get shot day one and I didn't die so you can take that for what you want.


I don't have 2 kp btw, I lied about that.


>.>
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:33 GMT
#2439
On September 28 2011 08:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
You know what's fun Palmar? Scum will be more than happy to kill you because then they will get the Ring. Awesome...


READ THIS POST SCUM

TAKE THE RING FOR YOURSELVES
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:34 GMT
#2441
In fact I will protect Palmar from Chaoser's hit so you 100% get it kk?
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:36 GMT
#2445
On September 28 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
You know what's fun Palmar? Scum will be more than happy to kill you because then they will get the Ring. Awesome...


nah, why do you think I got the ring and not the other party that killed prplhz?

if 2 people kill a ringbearer, the neutral party gets the ring.

town doesn't deserve winning this game, so I hope mafia just shoots town, if you kill rayn the last townie who's not bad is dead.


Yes but I can stop the neutral party from killing you can't I palmar?
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:40 GMT
#2447
On September 28 2011 08:39 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:36 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2011 08:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
You know what's fun Palmar? Scum will be more than happy to kill you because then they will get the Ring. Awesome...


nah, why do you think I got the ring and not the other party that killed prplhz?

if 2 people kill a ringbearer, the neutral party gets the ring.

town doesn't deserve winning this game, so I hope mafia just shoots town, if you kill rayn the last townie who's not bad is dead.


Yes but I can stop the neutral party from killing you can't I palmar?


Mafia huh


Town despite everything lol
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:41 GMT
#2449
I've still not sent in my night action lol
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September 27 2011 23:44 GMT
#2452
On September 28 2011 08:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Instead of protecting the third party, you could always choose to save the town tracker. *cough cough*


If I could I would
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:47 GMT
#2459
On September 28 2011 08:45 kitaman27 wrote:
At this point, I'm starting to think its me and Archon_Toilet against the forces of evil.


Yeah even your medic has given up lol
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:49 GMT
#2463
On September 28 2011 08:48 TranceStorm wrote:
Wow, I come back expecting to see Curu post the lynch post - and this is what I get.


MURDER PALMAR

ACHIEVE VICTORY FOR YOUR FACTION

that is all you really need to know...
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:51 GMT
#2466
Due to what has happened the day being extended is game braking
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:54 GMT
#2475
On September 28 2011 08:53 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:33 Drazerk wrote:
I don't have 2 kp btw, I lied about that.


>.>


He's probably the role blocker[/QUOTE]

I've been mod confirmed as a medic
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:57 GMT
#2478
On September 28 2011 08:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 08:49 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 08:48 TranceStorm wrote:
Wow, I come back expecting to see Curu post the lynch post - and this is what I get.


MURDER PALMAR

ACHIEVE VICTORY FOR YOUR FACTION

that is all you really need to know...


lol which faction exactly is that?


I am speaking to everyone there

I don't care who wins as long as palmar doesn't
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#2480
Wait we switched the vote?
Drazerk
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September 27 2011 23:59 GMT
#2483
I thought we didn't switch the vote lol

There is still hope!

( All though it's pretty slim )
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#2486
By the way - I still say everyone should be aiming at palmar tonight

Don't let him win.
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 07:57 GMT
#2529
On September 28 2011 10:13 kitaman27 wrote:
So draz, why did you say you couldn't protect me earlier? Is there a condition on your protections or something?


I thought you had been lynched lol

also Rayn continues to Derp
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 08:55 GMT
#2531
On September 28 2011 17:54 prplhz wrote:


Drazerk
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September 28 2011 11:38 GMT
#2533
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September 28 2011 13:13 GMT
#2538
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September 28 2011 13:57 GMT
#2540
On September 28 2011 22:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I hate to ruin it, but Palmar and Chaoser claim to need the ring a full day/night cycle before disappearing. If Chaoser is killing Palmar tonight, what stops us from lynching him tomorrow?
How exactly is the game 'over'?


It doesn't he just meets his win criteria and gets a little foot note in the end post.

and yes we can lynch him tomorrow but we're not going to ( Palmar might need lynching however should he survive )
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 15:04 GMT
#2544
Just kill them all
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 15:40 GMT
#2546
On September 29 2011 00:18 GreYMisT wrote:
Also, they seemed to know a lot about each others win cons and abilities.


Kill palmar

Lynch Chaoser

Easy enough?
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 16:43 GMT
#2548
On September 29 2011 01:37 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Alright I was taking a look through the lynches so far, and noticed two things they all had in common.
Dead people are striked out with cause of death. These don't include votes that were retracted.
+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 Lynch Votes] +

Final Day 1 Votecount

Erandorr

Palmar
Radfield - Killed Night 2
Syllogism - Killed Night 2
prplhz - Killed Night 3
kitaman27
OriginalName - Lynched Day 4
Vain - Mod Killed Day 2
TranceStorm
xtffc - Mod Killed Day 2
Drazerk

Erandorr lynched.



+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 Lynch Votes] +

Final Day 2 Vote Count



Jackal58
(9)

Greymist
chaoser
Radfield - Killed Night 3
Drazerk
raynpelikoneet
jcarlsoniv
TranceStorm
OriginalName
kitaman

Jackal lynched.


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 Lynch Votes] +

Final Day 3 Vote Count

iGrok (13)

GGQ
Archon_Toilet
Palmar
Greymist
Drazerk
raynpelikoneet
Kitaman
OriginalName - Lynched Day 4
jcarlsoniv
chaoser
Archon_Toilet
TranceStorm
prplhz - Killed Night 3

iGrok Lynched!

+ Show Spoiler [Day 4 Lynch Votes] +

Final Day 4 Vote Count

OriginalName (5)

Heist
Drazerk
Kitaman27
TranceStorm
Chaoser

OriginalName Lynched!


1) TranceStorm is the only person to have participated in all of them.
2) The mafia doesn't seem to be targeting the people who were in on the lynches.


I've also participated in all of them
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 20:06 GMT
#2556
On September 29 2011 05:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Well I happen to find it odd that neither of you would shoot the guy who claimed Frodo in the thread. Humor me?


HES SCUM

SHOOT HIM NOW
Drazerk
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September 28 2011 21:21 GMT
#2557
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September 28 2011 23:11 GMT
#2559
On September 29 2011 08:10 GreYMisT wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, the day ends soon right?


Soon (TM)
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 07:03 GMT
#2606
On September 29 2011 11:39 kitaman27 wrote:
meh I'm going to bed. draz could you explain your reasoning for choosing to protect chaoser over myself?


WIFOM

also the fact that I thought he would be taking a hit which he did
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 07:05 GMT
#2607
Ill be busy for the next few hours by the way
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 16:06 GMT
#2609
well this is an active town...
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 16:20 GMT
#2612
On September 30 2011 01:19 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 01:06 Drazerk wrote:
well this is an active town...


Seriously...where is everyone?


Dunno

and please just use the smurf account toilet it's easier for me to filter that way >.>
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 16:21 GMT
#2614
On September 30 2011 01:20 chaoser wrote:
Drazerk, wanna lynch cyber with me?


Ill filter him and get back to you on it
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 16:30 GMT
#2616
Quick question - Who got role blocked?
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 16:32 GMT
#2619
On September 30 2011 01:20 chaoser wrote:
Drazerk, wanna lynch cyber with me?


Yeah I am fine with lynching cyber
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 16:32 GMT
#2620
On September 30 2011 01:31 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 01:30 Drazerk wrote:
Quick question - Who got role blocked?


Kita did


ok that makes a bit more sense.
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 17:55 GMT
#2628
On September 30 2011 02:48 TranceStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 11:26 chaoser wrote:
I also don't mind actual claiming, I am:

Theon Greyjoy, the Kraken's heir, previously the SK Treasure Hunter now the Vanilla Townie

I was going to write an epic win post too...

Are you trolling us or something? Why on earth would a character from another story (not to mention the fact that he isn't one of the major major characters) be put in a theme game? That makes absolutely 0 sense. I know you've 'breadcrumbed' this, but why would another a character from another universe be introduced as a 3rd party looking for the ring?


Just due to the fact he was hit last night + role blocked. I am more than willing to say that he isn't scum but the trolling is still slightly amusing
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#2633
On September 30 2011 02:58 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 02:48 TranceStorm wrote:
On September 29 2011 11:26 chaoser wrote:
I also don't mind actual claiming, I am:

Theon Greyjoy, the Kraken's heir, previously the SK Treasure Hunter now the Vanilla Townie

I was going to write an epic win post too...

Are you trolling us or something? Why on earth would a character from another story (not to mention the fact that he isn't one of the major major characters) be put in a theme game? That makes absolutely 0 sense. I know you've 'breadcrumbed' this, but why would another a character from another universe be introduced as a 3rd party looking for the ring?


So you're saying Curu gave me two fake claims. One was Boromir and the other one was from another series? And that I'm lying about being what I am and I figured saying I was from another series would be MUCH better than just saying I'm Boromir, which would fit the role anyway since he wanted the ring for himself. And somehow I foresaw that I would need to claim a role from a completely different series somewhere down the line and breadcrumbed it?

Oh, and Theon gets his own POV later btw so yeah, he's kind of a big deal. The only "major major characters" are Tyrion, Jon and Dany anyway and I'm pretty sure they're all too busy doing their own thing to fit into a role where the purpose is to get the ring (Trying to find a whore, On the Wall, Across the Narrow Sea)

I'll paraphrase why I'm in the game from Curu's PM:

Your life sucks, you never fit in at Winterfell and people called you a ward but really you were a hostage (I drop this word as a breadcrumb too). Hell, most people who watch the HBO show don't even know who you are (Sad actually since he plays a big role later). All you want is respect and recognition.

Somehow you managed to rip open the space time continuum and teleport yourself into Middle Earth; Now you want to find the One Ring so you can finally gain recognition and power.

When gollum left with the ring, I lost the power to use the ring to go back to Westeros so now I'm stuck here trying to score with hot elven chicks.


I thought you was just lying about the theon thing lol and how dare you not call him a major major character he's one of my favourite characters!

Drazerk
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September 29 2011 18:26 GMT
#2638
On September 30 2011 03:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 02:04 chaoser wrote:
On September 30 2011 01:54 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Because Palmar was scummier obviously
I swapped to tunneling Palmar, my vote was on him day 3 up until near the end of it.

Every vote on a non-majority person is useless?
So we should all have only one person with the votes on them at the end of the day?


lol and yet you keep going back to TS, this was last night btw. I'm surprised that you say Palmer was "scummier" when you've been talking about TS, made the biggest case AGAINST TS, and continue to talk about TS as scum since day 1.

1) TranceStorm is the only person to have participated in all of them.
2) The mafia doesn't seem to be targeting the people who were in on the lynches.


Posted last night.

On September 29 2011 01:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh I overlooked Drazerk and Kitaman27 being on all of them too...
Both Pyo and I haven't been on any, and if we disclude the third which most of the town was on, GGQ joins us.


Also posts this bullshit "I wasn't in any of them, I'm not scum." Only scum would feel the need to do this. Also you imply that you pyo and ggq weren't in them and thus have "townie points" but all of a sudden later:

On September 29 2011 12:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 29 2011 11:21 chaoser wrote:
He also never actually gets on anyone as scummy and has been cruising through this game so far.

Since you are rather indirectly asking for the list of people I think are scum:
TranceStorm; there's a few reasons in my filter from day 1/2 and one last night.
Archon_Toilet; comes in sporadically, votes someone at almost random, leaves.
GGQ; comes in sporadically, seems to give it about 2% more thought than Archon and leaves again.


You post this right after Palmer flips, even though you thought palmer was scum. So either you read through the thread hella fast to reevaluate who the last three mafia are or you just pulled out three convinent people.


GGQ appeared alongside me in the hasn't last minute switched poll, and has done worse than Pyo this game. After Drazerk pointed out that Trance in fact wasn't the only person to be onboard every lynch, I made an excel sheet and pointed out interesting things I saw to raise discussion.
I admitted to that group looking the scummiest, which you conveniently overlook, and of Pyo and GGQ, I find GGQ worse, so he made the cut.

The four people that voted along side Radfield in both his lynches were:
TranceStorm
Drazerk
OriginalName
Kitaman27

And I'm willing to bet they aren't all town.
##Vote TranceStorm


Kita is confirmed tracker
I am a confirmed medic

what's the bet Trance is a DT / Vig?
Drazerk
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September 29 2011 19:53 GMT
#2646
Drazerk Ninja voted! - He's scum for sure!
Drazerk
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September 30 2011 17:23 GMT
#2688
Vigi's why rayn?

nothing he did spoke out as scum to me.

also yeah ill swap my vote to pyo
Drazerk
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September 30 2011 17:37 GMT
#2691
On October 01 2011 02:35 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 02:05 chaoser wrote:
Guys switch over to Pyo plzzzz


gg scum... this town is full of idiots, including myself. I really can't believe that people actually believed the whole "now I become a vanilla townie" nonsense.

For what it's worth, I'm Barliman Butterbur, Owner of the Prancing Pony, Vanilla Townie.

I also voted in this thread but forgot to click "Post" on my actual vote.


Shame he can't be scum due to him taking a hit last night...
Drazerk
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September 30 2011 19:52 GMT
#2696
On October 01 2011 04:50 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 04:18 chaoser wrote:
You're right GGQ, I'm obviously still the SK and my real wincon is actually to kill everyone and it wasn't the same as Palmer's. Cause obviously I would be able to guess/know Palmer's wincon even though he first lied about it in the thread and I then posted his real wincon which then got proven by him leaving the game without my actually knowing anything about his wincon. Cool Story Bro. [/end sarcasm]

Also nice try at misdirection there by saying it's smarter to lynch me over Pyo, obvious scum #1.


I never said this. Feeling defensive?


I thought you was stating this also...

I have no idea what to make of you at the moment which is a bad thing.
Drazerk
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September 30 2011 20:00 GMT
#2700
On October 01 2011 04:58 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 04:57 GMarshal wrote:
On October 01 2011 04:55 TheManWithThePlan wrote:
stuff

oops...


How embarrassing


Drazerk
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September 30 2011 20:02 GMT
#2703
On October 01 2011 05:01 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 04:57 GMarshal wrote:
On October 01 2011 04:55 TheManWithThePlan wrote:
stuff

oops...


=[. I guess I won't be using a smurf for PYP =[


Awww I was waiting for it to sign up to PYP so we could laugh at you
Drazerk
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September 30 2011 20:19 GMT
#2709
Guys does anyone else find it oddly suspicious Mafia would send out a message saying Jcarl is Uglúk when they knew iGrok would probably be lynched the same day?

I don't know but it's just giving me a bad feeling at the moment and something I want to look in to tonight / tomorrow
Drazerk
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September 30 2011 21:15 GMT
#2716
On October 01 2011 06:14 Pyo wrote:
scum team: heist, chaoser, kitaman


Kita is confirmed tracker...
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:16 GMT
#2717
Pyo are you playing the same game as us?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:31 GMT
#2721
On October 01 2011 06:27 heist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 06:15 Pyo wrote:
##unvote

##vote: chaoser


What the hell is this? Chaoser has killed a mafia member. Chaoser is not mafia. We are trying to lynch mafia. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Put your vote to better use.


He's just trolling now
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:34 GMT
#2723
Pyo -

Why are Kita / Chaoser scum but not me?

I just want to hear your reasoning behind this.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:35 GMT
#2725
On October 01 2011 06:32 syllogism wrote:
As far as I'm concerned you are all trolling


Yeah I am actually a time travelling zombie T-Rex and simply waiting for the dead bodies to mount up high enough to eat before returning to the future.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:39 GMT
#2727
On October 01 2011 06:37 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 06:34 Drazerk wrote:
Pyo -

Why are Kita / Chaoser scum but not me?

I just want to hear your reasoning behind this.


Because the celestial moon is waning and three fourths of the way across the sky, lining up perpendicularly with Venus, the planet of love. This causes a vortex of transmittance that allows for a wave signal that has a frequency of 0.9c to reach him and...fuck this shit...GM how do you even think of half the things you think of??


MAGIC!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:49 GMT
#2730
On October 01 2011 06:46 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 06:39 Drazerk wrote:
On October 01 2011 06:37 chaoser wrote:
On October 01 2011 06:34 Drazerk wrote:
Pyo -

Why are Kita / Chaoser scum but not me?

I just want to hear your reasoning behind this.


Because the celestial moon is waning and three fourths of the way across the sky, lining up perpendicularly with Venus, the planet of love. This causes a vortex of transmittance that allows for a wave signal that has a frequency of 0.9c to reach him and...fuck this shit...GM how do you even think of half the things you think of??


MAGIC!


Holy fuck..you have 12k+ posts. How did you do that and I only have not even 4k and I've been here longer lol.


I live report SC2 tournys

I am 95% certain I have the TL record of most posts in a week because of it
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 30 2011 21:51 GMT
#2733
On October 01 2011 06:50 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 06:49 Drazerk wrote:
On October 01 2011 06:46 chaoser wrote:
On October 01 2011 06:39 Drazerk wrote:
On October 01 2011 06:37 chaoser wrote:
On October 01 2011 06:34 Drazerk wrote:
Pyo -

Why are Kita / Chaoser scum but not me?

I just want to hear your reasoning behind this.


Because the celestial moon is waning and three fourths of the way across the sky, lining up perpendicularly with Venus, the planet of love. This causes a vortex of transmittance that allows for a wave signal that has a frequency of 0.9c to reach him and...fuck this shit...GM how do you even think of half the things you think of??


MAGIC!


Holy fuck..you have 12k+ posts. How did you do that and I only have not even 4k and I've been here longer lol.


I live report SC2 tournys

I am 95% certain I have the TL record of most posts in a week because of it


I dunno...kona had a pretty beastly posting rate back in the day. Jinro too.


2100 posts in a week beastly?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 09:19 GMT
#2755
So I just found a dusty old ring on the corpse of a dead hobbit and now I have the ability to survive unlimited amounts of KP, not only this If I survive till the lynch I can res anyone who had voted for scum at any point in the game.

Lylo pffffft
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 10:45 GMT
#2758
On October 01 2011 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 18:19 Drazerk wrote:
So I just found a dusty old ring on the corpse of a dead hobbit and now I have the ability to survive unlimited amounts of KP, not only this If I survive till the lynch I can res anyone who had voted for scum at any point in the game.

Lylo pffffft


So thus ressurection mechanic, one per day or any/all of them at your discreetion?
Multi-use?


Once per day multi use ability, however people I res will be given a different role / alignment than they originally had and if I die my spirit will linger on and all players but myself will be resurrected each day resulting in a never ending game ( Unless the world radiation gets above 10 in which case I can't res any more as they just die instantly )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 13:16 GMT
#2761
On October 01 2011 22:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Sister's birthday weekend is so busy...


and yet you still manage to have higher activity than most even if we are just mass trolling at this stage
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 16:35 GMT
#2762
nights are so fun...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 21:04 GMT
#2768
I am leaning at GGQ being scum... which is bad because it is lylo and he lurked basically all game
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 22:59 GMT
#2773
On October 02 2011 07:53 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 06:00 chaoser wrote:
On October 02 2011 05:29 GGQ wrote:
In fact, we had better have kp to kill mafia with or chaoser is going to win


I'm a vanilla townie you idiot...


You're not a fucking vanilla townie, asshole.


I'm willing to be he's not SK and I won't let you lynch / kill him
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 23:31 GMT
#2776
On October 02 2011 08:28 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
@Drazerk, What does your heal pm say, "Your target was attacked" or "You saved your target"?
There's a large difference.


You protected your target from a hit last night
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 23:33 GMT
#2778
On October 02 2011 08:33 Curu wrote:
lol I don't think I even send the same message every night.


You don't
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 01 2011 23:53 GMT
#2780
huh?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 02 2011 10:20 GMT
#2818
I protected Kita last night he wasn't hit
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 02 2011 10:21 GMT
#2819
On October 02 2011 18:48 heist wrote:
If it really comes down to the wire I have an iron claim. Imagine a LOTR character that HAS to be in this game simply for their importance. That's me. mr bigshsot. so ya no use voting for me. oh ya whos the other medic? confirmed townie foor sure.

Mig I wish you the best in all your endeavors.



there is no other medic the person who protected me was syllo using his ability from the grave.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 02 2011 13:41 GMT
#2824
On October 02 2011 22:22 chaoser wrote:
Also, who did you protect for every night


he's not a medic.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 02 2011 13:51 GMT
#2827
On October 02 2011 22:48 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 22:41 Drazerk wrote:
On October 02 2011 22:22 chaoser wrote:
Also, who did you protect for every night


he's not a medic.


How did you survive a hit on Night 4 then? Paraphrase the PM curu sent you.


Syllo gave me the motivation the same night.

I am willing to bet that he also protected me rather than there being two medics. The only reason I acted like there was two medics was to throw scum off.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 02 2011 18:50 GMT
#2835
On October 03 2011 02:53 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 23:48 TranceStorm wrote:
Hmmm. Why have Cyber_Cheese and heist moved off from voting for me (and to voting for each other at the moment). Nothing has changed from the previous day to this day so why should they have seemed to change their minds?


The fact Drazerk and Kitaman are alive this late in the game means there is a good chance at least one of them is mafia. They were both on Radfield's late swings like you, and I figured there was another mafia voting with Radfield. You being that other mafia was my reason to push you, but that doesn't seem so logical now they are both alive.

I only believe one of you three to be mafia, and somehow chaoser looks trustworthy, so I think the other two mafia are Heist and GGQ.


The fact that I have been saying I was going to protect Kita most nights probably swayed scum into only role blocking Kita. As for myself well I have no idea why I am still alive especially after Curu basically mod confirmed me as a medic.

Of course they could of chosen the kills purely because they are trolling at this stage or simply are not following the game.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 02 2011 19:23 GMT
#2842
On October 03 2011 04:20 heist wrote:
Also, do we not have a Gimli?


I was wondering about him as well...

Anyway I'd like to kill GGQ as he is the person giving me the most scum vibes at the moment.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 15:45 GMT
#2929
On October 04 2011 00:17 chaoser wrote:
I should have voted you earlier lol, like drazerk says, MAGIC!


MAGIC!

also

##Vote: TranceStorm
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 17:17 GMT
#2942
MAGIC!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 17:18 GMT
#2943
also did GGQ ninja vote?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 17:36 GMT
#2945
We are pro ninja voters kita ^^
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 17:57 GMT
#2948
On October 04 2011 02:47 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 02:18 Drazerk wrote:
also did GGQ ninja vote?




MAGIC!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#2949
MAGIC NINJA VOTE!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 03 2011 18:37 GMT
#2952
On October 04 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
I've been ninja'd pointing out the ninja vote.

I think physics just broke again.


MAGIC!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2011 04:18 GMT
#2978
On October 04 2011 11:08 heist wrote:
ok Drazerk. you and me. hero medic time.


Rodger.

Also use your second medic ability that I gave you on chaoser ( That posting restriction was worth it if we prevent all useful scum KP )

Sorry Kita we don't have four medic heals but you shall not be forgotten.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2011 23:53 GMT
#3029
Damn - GL!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 06 2011 22:08 GMT
#3085
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 06 2011 22:23 GMT
#3091
On October 07 2011 07:19 GMarshal wrote:
I'm Sauron, the Misunderstood Good Wizard, I'm good friends with the Balrog, Misunderstood Monstrosity from the Pits of Hell


##Captain planet's 99999 KP: GMarshal
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 06 2011 23:11 GMT
#3112
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 08 2011 13:48 GMT
#3125
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 08 2011 16:12 GMT
#3127
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 08 2011 17:09 GMT
#3130
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 09 2011 17:11 GMT
#3144
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