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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:28 GMT
#2111
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:30 GMT
#2112
List of people you're allowed to lynch:

Kitaman (Mafia)
Chaoser (SK)

obviously we should just kill kitaman, as chaoser can be lynched as soon as he has a bad shot.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:37 GMT
#2115
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


When I say shit, you listen.

Drazerk is clear, Kita is scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:42 GMT
#2119
##Punch raynpelikoneet
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:45 GMT
#2124
Bro!

I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:46 GMT
#2127
or chaoser, I actually don't mind killing sks
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 16:53 GMT
#2135
On September 28 2011 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 28 2011 01:45 Palmar wrote:
Bro!

I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman.


Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched.


yeah whatever. This is fucking terrible, the entire game has consisted of bad town decisions because they're afraid of being wrong.

Just trust me, I'm awesome at this.

Kitaman is scum. Drazerk isn't.

Whatever, this is stupid. I'm off, enjoy fucking failing again town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:39 GMT
#2172
yo dudes, I'm claiming the Joker.

I can do all of the following every night:

Role check
Murder someone
Alignment check
Medic protection
Force a modkill
Murder someone

I'm masoned with myself, meaning I can PM myself.

I role checked chaoser, he's an SK, his true identity is Lord Vader.
I murdered purplehaze
I alignment checked kita, he's scum
I didn't medic protect anyone because I'm an asshole
I couldn't force more modkills, Curu said enough already.
I murdered purplehaze again for good measure.

I told myself how awesome I am.

So kita is scum!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:45 GMT
#2181
btw

@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts:

Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it.

Now stop it, let's kill kita.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:45 GMT
#2182
On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.


WHAT ABOUT IT BITCH?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:47 GMT
#2187
GM's claim is bullshit btw.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:48 GMT
#2190
On September 28 2011 02:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.


WHAT ABOUT IT BITCH?


What about it? You're the only one who's been openly trolling the whole game. And you find it entertaining that mafia is open about trolling.


yeah, problem?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:53 GMT
#2196
On September 28 2011 02:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
btw

@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts:

Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it.

Now stop it, let's kill kita.


Just because he might be a medic, doesn't mean he is town aligned.

You were on my scum team for both WaW2 and Personality mafia and both games we had a scum medic on our team. I'm suspicious why you would purposely overlook this fact.


Hello Kitaman.

Look at your post, now back to mine, now back to your post, now back to mine. Sadly, you're post isn't mine, but if you pulled your head out of the ass and just admitted scum, you could at least be right like me.

Look down, back up, where are you? You're not under any suspicion and your posts make sense like mine. What's in your hand? I know it, it's a gun that you've used to murder townies throughout the game. Look again, the gun is now a diamond.

Anything is possible when you post like me and not scum. I'm one a horse.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 17:54 GMT
#2200
EBWOP: "Sadly, your post isn't mine".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 19:12 GMT
#2213
we need more votes on kita, at this rate mafia can basically scumswitch and own us.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#2218
On September 28 2011 04:39 Pyo wrote:
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On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


I liked day 1 and day 2 Palmar better than the "usual" Palmar who has returned for day 4. Palmar, you did not get iGrok lynched. GGQ had more to do with getting Palmar lynched than you did. Stop saying that. Additionally, iGrok was hardcore bussed starting at least before day 2. One thing I've learned thanks to Curu in the last mafia game is that when someone is saying something stupid or wrong, over and over again despite being told otherwise multiple times, they're scum. So stop saying that you are confirmed town; you're not. In fact, how about this? Let's go ahead and confirm your alignment.

##vote: Palmar

PS... I haven't forgotten about ON.


Yeah, town deserves to lose this.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#2236
On September 28 2011 05:55 Drazerk wrote:
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On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


I still think SS was hit by third party over mafia until a vigilante owns up to hitting me


I think stabbed through the chest is mafia flavor.

Also, Drazerk. I'm not scum, now vote for kitaman27.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 21:22 GMT
#2240
On September 28 2011 06:13 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm under the opinion that mafia are not among our top candidates. For example, I am still extra suspicious of Cyber_Cheese because of his vote for OriginalName and because of his "I'd rather lynch chaoser than iGrok" comments. I think people are putting a little too much faith into the fact that mafia were bussing iGrok. Remember that Radfield led a last-minute effort on day 2 to pull the lynch off of iGrok and onto Jackal.



No, we definitely have mafia. kitaman27 is scum.

The problem is, how much intelligence do we have on the town side? Because only people who are capable of minimum thinking can see how clearly kitaman27 is scum. I don't really have much faith seeing how many people let iGrok slide on day 1. I mean we're stuck with people like pyo on town side, I don't think he has ever accused scum in any game I've played with him.

It's obivous, his claim and attack on chaoser was basically mafia trying to stall the iGrok lynch for another day. Thankfully people showed some ability to look at things objectively. I know it's hard to expect something like that to happen again....

One can always hope.

I honestly hope that a lot of town players go back when this game is done and re-read it in it's entirety. Because I haven't even paid that much attention to it, yet mafia is glaringly obvious.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 21:27 GMT
#2244
On September 28 2011 06:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:01 GreYMisT wrote:
After thinking it over I am inclined to believe that Chaoser is telling the truth.

1) the past 2 times he has killed, he has expressed suspicion of that person in the thread, and has attacked from a town agenda (pushed for prp's lynch day1 and a lot of us were suspicious of radfield)

2) His play does not say SK to me at all. Rather than attacking threats to himself, he is activly hunting scum

3) I dont think he is scum (because of the radfield kill)

With that said, I think Kitaman is our best canidate atm, As Chaoser pointed out there are some very odd things about the way his role claim happened. His day1 play seemed slightly off to me as well. Only did one pressure vote, didnt any real opinions, just defending/clarifying points, then jumped on the errandor wagon when it appeared. the rest has already been mentioned many times.

##Vote Kitaman


Greymist. I honestly think you are the only person in the thread that doesn't think chaoser is a serial killer. Are you still willing to reason or is this a lost cause?

This is only your 3rd-4th game, so I'm not sure if you are just unaware about how unlikely his claim is or what. In the history of team liquid mafia, there has never been a town aligned bulletproof compulsive vigilante. This role would be beyond broken for town. Even if every single one of us were vanilla town and we had 1 bulletproof compulsive vigilante, the setup would still be town favored. In there history of teamliquid mafia, there are only a handful of town aligned players who ever ever been bulletproof. You only see them in PYP games and the occassion theme game. In the history of teamliquid mafia, there have only been a handful of town aligned compulsive vigilantes. It is absolutely impossible to take two of the strongest possible roles and combining them. How can you say he is not attacking threats to himself? He has been trying to get my lynched all day long.




No one actually cares that he's an SK.

We're lynching scum, you are a subset of scum.

Are you the roleblocker?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 21:28 GMT
#2248
On September 28 2011 06:27 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 00:58 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
There were 20+ players in the game. Its unreasonable to think I would just risk a tracker claim and hope I was right. If the 1/20+ odds don't go my way, then I'm lynched for lying. The fact is, I am a tracker and I wasn't lying. As for being a mafia tracker, I don't recall ever playing in a game where scum could track people. Even it its possible, 99% of the time, the tracker is town aligned. Don't overthink this.

Also, isn't it convenient that nobody else is committing one way or another until they see where the safe lynch is? People like draz have completely disappeared.


I fake claimed as DT in a game where a watcher, a DT, a tracker, and another DT were either flipped from death or accounted for by claiming in the thread and I ended up winning the game as mafia without being lynched. Fake claiming is not really that big a risk. At the least, as iGrok showed, your teammates can bus you if needed. This risk is even less in this game especially since it is a closed setup game where we don't know the roles and also the number of roles that exist. This makes it's very very possible to fake claim and get away with it. Of course I'm not trying to convince you that you fake claimed lol, I'm trying to convince others.

Your play makes no sense for someone who is a proclaimed tracker, not to mention the fact that you were townie in two previous other games and mafia thought it prudent to kill you off day 1. Now that you've claimed tracker, mafia doesn't kill you? They don't even roleblock you. You're a good player with a blue information role and instead they shoot supersoft? Someone that they didn't know was blue over someone that they knew was blue? That doesn't seem right at all.


If Kitman is scum, then he somehow knew that you were the one responsible for radfield, which makes you scum. Alternatively, kitman is telling the truth, which means you're telling the truth which makes him town and you 3rd party or town. Either way, I don't see a scenario where we should lynch kitaman before you.

However given the fact that Palmar's been a scummy troll, ON has all but disappeared and GGQ also has all but disappeared, I'd say there were 3 lynch targets better than either of you. This town has been one big huge sheepfest, and it needs to stop.


No, what needs to stop is you talking.
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