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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#2094
On September 28 2011 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
There were 20+ players in the game. Its unreasonable to think I would just risk a tracker claim and hope I was right. If the 1/20+ odds don't go my way, then I'm lynched for lying. The fact is, I am a tracker and I wasn't lying. As for being a mafia tracker, I don't recall ever playing in a game where scum could track people. Even it its possible, 99% of the time, the tracker is town aligned. Don't overthink this.

Also, isn't it convenient that nobody else is committing one way or another until they see where the safe lynch is? People like draz have completely disappeared.


MAGIC!

And badly timed...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:54 GMT
#2096
On September 28 2011 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yep, pretty much all people have disappeared. My vote is still on Drazerk, and i won't change it unless he's going to defend himself someway. And i hope that all the remaining players think of these cases as well, regardless of what you think of these two.

Chaoser is a safe lynch yes, but i'd be rather lynching scum than 3rd party.


Your basically going to ignore everything I have said and I have done enough harm to the town that you are well within your right to kill me, just do it tomorrow so we tie up the role blocker for another night.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 15:58 GMT
#2099
On September 28 2011 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 00:52 Drazerk wrote:
Rayn -

I protected chaoser because I think he's lying about being bulletproof - I even said that the day he claimed. I already explained that I lied about finding the role blocker so Mafia would kill me last night. I didn't know I would survive today and to be honest it would of been better had they killed me. I did my job last night and ill be role blocked tonight so you idiots can lynch me tomorrow.


How do you explain the mafia hit on prplhz when you clearly stated you are protecting him last night? And the fact that you know it was a double hit? These both together makes you look so scummy i can't even explain.


medics are clearly told that they protected their target from a hit the previous night. If it was unblockable I wouldn't of gotten that message. It is as simple as that.

also I don't think mafia are stupid enough to hit SS and I can probably guess that they hit me unless a vigilante wants to own up to it.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:11 GMT
#2105
On September 28 2011 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 00:58 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:52 Drazerk wrote:
Rayn -

I protected chaoser because I think he's lying about being bulletproof - I even said that the day he claimed. I already explained that I lied about finding the role blocker so Mafia would kill me last night. I didn't know I would survive today and to be honest it would of been better had they killed me. I did my job last night and ill be role blocked tonight so you idiots can lynch me tomorrow.


How do you explain the mafia hit on prplhz when you clearly stated you are protecting him last night? And the fact that you know it was a double hit? These both together makes you look so scummy i can't even explain.


medics are clearly told that they protected their target from a hit the previous night. If it was unblockable I wouldn't of gotten that message. It is as simple as that.

also I don't think mafia are stupid enough to hit SS and I can probably guess that they hit me unless a vigilante wants to own up to it.


I didn't ask how did you find out that prp was double hit, i want know how are you able to explain it, unless you didn't actually protect him. Would you as mafia hit a guy who is basically claimed bulletproof next night, just becouse you hope it's gonna be a double stack?


He didn't claim bulletproof all he had was me saying I was going to protect him which I could of been lying about.

It makes all the sense to hit him and steal the ring from him to power them selves up.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:38 GMT
#2116
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:43 GMT
#2120
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:47 GMT
#2128
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 16:52 GMT
#2134
On September 28 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring.


That is imo quite a gamble.


And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble.


That one i'd rather call a stupid gamble.


Which one is a stupid gamble? Please post more clearly and not just in one liners. I have a hard time understanding/following your thoughts


No one understands Rayn anymore
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:25 GMT
#2153
On September 28 2011 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


I know the explanation. Drazerk is scum.


No I am just the reason why scum are probably going to win unless we lynch scum today.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:30 GMT
#2157
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).

Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.


Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:35 GMT
#2166
On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]

Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already.

How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?


I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:38 GMT
#2171
On September 28 2011 02:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]

To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.


So are you saying you're not a medic anymore? How convenient...


No I am still a medic I lied about the role changing to throw mafia off -.-
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#2173
On September 28 2011 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]

To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.


It could also be a lie that syllo gave you double action. Maybe he didn't give it to anyone. Maybe he did give it to you. I dunno.

You also have claimed you had a posting restriction, how does that make sense to a town medic? Btw, what was your posting restriction, now that it's gone?


Can't say don't even bother asking.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:46 GMT
#2185
On September 28 2011 02:45 GMarshal wrote:
[image loading]


I am claiming Saruman, the Misunderstood Good Wizard.

I killed Curu and Mig, because I like helping the town. I crumbed this earlier.


##Captain planet
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 17:52 GMT
#2195
On September 28 2011 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:49 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:47 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
btw

@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts:

Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it.

Now stop it, let's kill kita.


Thank you...


Basically Curu confirmed that
1) the medic protected two people
2) the medic was informed later that one of the people he protected was hit.

So unless some other double protecting medic wants to come out, Drazerk is the medic and since he protected someone I assume his claim is true (that he didn't know who he protected at first and then he did later)

You can't fake claim that shit unless it was real lol


Draz also claimed a hit, so if he is telling the truth, there must be at least 1 other protective role. With the jailer that already flipped, does it really make sense for town to have 3 medics? I think not.


Syllo protected me with his heal move.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 18:00 GMT
#2204
On September 28 2011 02:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
btw

@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts:

Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it.

Now stop it, let's kill kita.


Sorry, i misread the other mod post. Yeah, i'm up for lynching kita.

##Unvote

##Vote Kitaman27


...

GGQ, Grey, ON, Archon, Cheese, heist, Tance, Pyro...do any of you guys have an opinion or are you all going to sit back and watch the mislynch?


Wouldn't be Mafia is half the town lurked
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#2214
On September 28 2011 04:12 Palmar wrote:
we need more votes on kita, at this rate mafia can basically scumswitch and own us.


I agree with this except with the kita thing what I am still not sure about yet.

as for now...

##unvote:

I have plans for you palmar...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 20:55 GMT
#2231
On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


I still think SS was hit by third party over mafia until a vigilante owns up to hitting me
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#2232
On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


But yeah I agree it's weird he has been able to survive this long ( Considering we have been role blocked / shot at each night since announcing our blueness )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#2235
On September 28 2011 06:09 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:53 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention it's strange that he was neither roleblocked or killed. Instead, supersoft was hit, someone who wasn't contributing much at all and was basically a lurker.


But yeah I agree it's weird he has been able to survive this long ( Considering we have been role blocked / shot at each night since announcing our blueness )


Drazerk, you say all this and yet you're still voting for palmer. Are you willing to change your vote to kitaman?


I unvoted ages ago I am still undecided how I am going to vote
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