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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 21 2011 18:38 GMT
#1161
this is a clusterfuck of clusterfucking. igrok needs to die and then some other medic/jailor can protect drazerk tonight and tomorrow we'll know if drazerk told the truth. if he did then he's confirmed, if not then he's scum.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 21 2011 18:40 GMT
#1162
On September 22 2011 03:37 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:30 syllogism wrote:
Why would you protect igrok? Even for you that would be unbelievably stupid


Says the person who chose to day vig him the day he revealed.
You should have waited for the next day at least, such that any medics could change target

If there was a medic on iGrok, this raises more questions on the other two that 'survived hits'

You've already repeatedly established that you are really daft, so I'm not even going to bother explaining the obvious to you


We can use iGrok's one shot kill to our advantage.
I'm not about to hang him for offering us that instead of saving it for himself.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 21 2011 18:40 GMT
#1163
Drazerk and now please slowly explain what you protecting igrok says about his alignment
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 21 2011 18:42 GMT
#1164
well we'll already know after the flip .. i cannot wait!!!
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 21 2011 18:42 GMT
#1165
On September 22 2011 03:40 syllogism wrote:
Drazerk and now please slowly explain what you protecting igrok says about his alignment


I can't speak for him, but iIt's not about his alignment, it's about the alignment of the people pushing his lynch that I care about.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 21 2011 18:43 GMT
#1166
On September 22 2011 03:42 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:40 syllogism wrote:
Drazerk and now please slowly explain what you protecting igrok says about his alignment


I can't speak for him, but iIt's not about his alignment, it's about the alignment of the people pushing his lynch that I care about.

I somewhat agree, but the thing is he has been beyond saving for quite a while now and bussing is the norm in TL mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 21 2011 18:45 GMT
#1167
You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 21 2011 18:45 GMT
#1168
On September 22 2011 03:38 prplhz wrote:
this is a clusterfuck of clusterfucking. igrok needs to die and then some other medic/jailor can protect drazerk tonight and tomorrow we'll know if drazerk told the truth. if he did then he's confirmed, if not then he's scum.


Well...if he doesn't die, that either tells us he was protected, or he wasn't hit. He would only be left alive if he were scum.

But say he's a medic, and gets protection. That medic would have to claim they protected him and that he was hit, and we've outed a medic to scum, right? I'm not sure that's the best course of action. Although, I'll admit, I'm pretty lost right now.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 21 2011 18:46 GMT
#1169
Its also pretty unlikely that we have a third medic. Our jailer got lynched day one and draz is claiming as the second. Scum do have to worry about watchers, so it doesn't necesssarily mean he is scum if he survives the night.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Archon_Toilet
Profile Joined May 2011
65 Posts
September 21 2011 18:47 GMT
#1170
On September 22 2011 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?

I would like to add to this. Did you protect him last night or was it only during the day today?

If you protected him last night, chaoser needs to hang.
Question everything!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 21 2011 18:47 GMT
#1171
jcarlson, i mean from igrok's flip we can see if he is a veteran scum and thus would survive syllo's hit .. then drazerk obviously didn't protect him and he's scum ... if he flips non-veteran SK-type role then drazerk obviously did protect him and he's not scum.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 18:47 GMT
#1172
On September 22 2011 03:47 Archon_Toilet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?

I would like to add to this. Did you protect him last night or was it only during the day today?

If you protected him last night, chaoser needs to hang.


Last night.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 21 2011 18:47 GMT
#1173
On September 21 2011 23:09 Drazerk wrote:
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On September 21 2011 22:54 prplhz wrote:
@drazerk

why would it be idiotic to shoot him? why do you even think anybody is gonna shoot someone who already survived a hit somehow? why do you want to keep a guy alive whose only defense is a claim, and who then magically survives a hit even though his claim said nothing about that ability? the guy needs to die and a lynch is the only way to go.

although i'm interested in any case you think you can make against jack/pyo/rad.


Medics exist and that's what I think has happened here and it's why I am asking they stay away tonight.




On September 21 2011 22:14 Drazerk wrote:
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On September 21 2011 22:06 prplhz wrote:
drazerk why not kill him today? you want to postpone the lynch to tomorrow? also why do you think he's gonna get killed anyway, as you stated on some previous post?


We have better targets
Not really if he's lying I'd rather a vigi take care of it.
People are already shooting at him over the claim, some idiot will shoot him either Mafia before he has a chance to go through with his plan or a vigilante. If your going to ask about possible medics I'd rather they focus their attentions elsewhere.


On September 21 2011 23:41 Drazerk wrote:
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On September 21 2011 23:27 prplhz wrote:
uhmn isn't it a bit weird that igrok claimed after 3 pressure votes. i mean, a lot of people got 3 votes during day1 and they didn't claim, i've actually never seen anyone claim after just 3 votes and we weren't that far into the day, a lot of things could have happened. i think igrok felt very guilty and thinks the case against him is pretty strong, because he is scum. and that made him claim some shit he just made up.

also @drazerk

but medics don't protect through day. thus he's either a veteran or he's somehow immune to ##cleave, no matter what then he lied about his role. also, why would any medic protect igrok, he is scummy as hell and he didn't contribute during day1 at all.


How do you know medics don't protect through the day?

I've played a lot of games where they have protected all cycle.

As for why they would protect iGrok?

I have no idea.


He does talk about medics a lot before he claimed.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 18:48 GMT
#1174
On September 22 2011 03:47 prplhz wrote:
jcarlson, i mean from igrok's flip we can see if he is a veteran scum and thus would survive syllo's hit .. then drazerk obviously didn't protect him and he's scum ... if he flips non-veteran SK-type role then drazerk obviously did protect him and he's not scum.


And we all die together!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 18:50 GMT
#1175
On September 22 2011 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?


Thought he would bit hit more than anything else.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 21 2011 18:50 GMT
#1176
On September 22 2011 03:47 prplhz wrote:
jcarlson, i mean from igrok's flip we can see if he is a veteran scum and thus would survive syllo's hit .. then drazerk obviously didn't protect him and he's scum ... if he flips non-veteran SK-type role then drazerk obviously did protect him and he's not scum.


Makes sense, but something still doesn't feel right about the iGrok lynch. I don't know where to put my vote T_T
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 21 2011 18:52 GMT
#1177
Yes jcarlsoniv, you haven't had any opinions whole game long really
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 21 2011 18:53 GMT
#1178
##vote: Palmar

Best choice right now in my opinion.

Busses his team mate but doesn't keep with it.

One of the first votes on the errandor bandwagon.

Largely useless day 1.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 21 2011 18:54 GMT
#1179
On September 22 2011 03:52 syllogism wrote:
Yes jcarlsoniv, you haven't had any opinions whole game long really


That's not even remotely true.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 18:55 GMT
#1180
On September 22 2011 03:37 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:25 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:13 chaoser wrote:
iGrok's claim makes no sense as a mafia, it makes more sense as a third party trying to fulfill their wincon early. I'm ok with a jackal lynch. He's posting a lot in the pony thread, not a lot here. Everything else radfield has said. If wherebugsgo is a mafia hit then it makes sense for jackal to push for the ring to be given to wherebugsgo. WBG gets ring, dies to mafia.

##vote: Jackal58


Could you explain how your opinion shifted from lynching igrok to letting him live in such a short amount of time? How did the claim go from scum to no sense as mafia? Also, what in specific about radfield's case makes you think jackal is scum?


I never said he was scum. I was thinking how it was protactinium all over again (black role saying it would help town if town helped it) and voted him on a jerk-knee reaction. 5 minutes later I remembered that the way we dealt with the prot case was to just let him die and not wasting a lynch. We're here to lynch mafia, not waste time on third parties. A third party lynch is a lynch that mafia loves. They get to pile on to the vote with almost no repercussions since black role is "anti-town" and it also gets rid of a competitor. Let the mafia deal with it, I assume iGrok is balrog=SK since he's apparently bulletproof (syg day shot him).

This part got me convinced:

Show nested quote +
He also claims that he's fine with lynching either Prp or WBG and that both are scummy.

Although after prplhz's last post he is putting forth a 100% complete scum agenda. I'm ok with lynching either of them. (WBG or prplhz)


Yet later in the thread jackal makes two things very clear. One: WBG is very likely third party(pushes this multiple times) and Two: Jackal would vote for a scummy player but doesn't find anyone else scummy:

Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch?


I can understand if there was a transition between the two but there wasn't. He goes from "I think prp is a good scum vote straight to "vote wbg!".

What about you?

Put it in the context it was posted in.
On September 18 2011 21:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Then I suppose it's time for a paradigm shift Mr. jcarlsoniv.
Although after prplhz's last post he is putting forth a 100% complete scum agenda. I'm ok with lynching either of them. (WBG or prplhz)


You've just flip flopped on iGrok and me. I guess that makes you scum.
Life can only kill you once.
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