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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 12:12 GMT
#1336
On September 22 2011 21:10 prplhz wrote:
@cyber_cheese

i don't understand that answer.


iGrok isn't about to use his one shot power to kill himself...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 16:48 GMT
#1366
On September 23 2011 00:49 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 00:32 Palmar wrote:
why do you care what I think chaoser?


Because you just called me a dumbass.

So I want to know WHY I'm a dumbass.

Just saying I'm a dumbass doesn't make me understand the situation.

I'm not going to read you calling me a dumbass and go:

"OHHHHH so THAT'S why my thinking was wrong, I'm just a fucking dumbass. I guess I'll try to be less of a dumbass and then I can see what the fuck Palmer is talking about."

So why am I a dumbass palmer?


He's been using OMGUS to dispel anything he feels like contending while never providing reasoning to the contrary, and it's part of the reason I'm sure he's scum.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#1379
On September 23 2011 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?


Why do you think syllo as a day vigi has some "extra powers on top"?


He claimed to survive a hit too, and never did explain how, but acted like he knew. Check his filter.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 20:15 GMT
#1401
On September 23 2011 05:11 kitaman27 wrote:
I HAVE 15 NIGHT ACTIONS!

*evil laugh*


There's your missing majority problem right there then mig
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 21:19 GMT
#1409
On September 23 2011 06:00 prplhz wrote:
so there are hobbits in this game?! interesting


I think he was trolling. Hobbits wouldn't really fit in with the lore...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 23:23 GMT
#1443
Everything I said on Palmar previously remains in place, use my filter if you need an argument, I may provide one again later if needed but I really feel like it's time we made some other people made cases that we can use for/against them.
##Vote Palmar
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#1451
On September 23 2011 08:29 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 08:25 GreYMisT wrote:
On September 23 2011 08:21 OriginalName wrote:
On September 23 2011 08:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this message? Do you guys think it combines with the message from day1?


Ugluk is the orc who capped Merry and Pippen during two towers...


Well thank god someone knows the lore more than I do, I was trying to find permutations of Ugluk that made sense.

I Agree. Either we have pleased the mods and they have decided to make things easier for us, or something isnt right with this message. But that leaves a question: Why is this one so easy to understand, but none of us could figure out the first one?


I came up with three possibilities

1. That is a translated version of the day 1. ( DT scans sends message then someone else translates?)
2. Mafia have left this to try and trick us.
3. Curu likes giving us scum?


1 and 2 I could foresee happening, The OP specifically states there are no clues
4) The ring has something to do with it? If it changed hands and a new person made the claim.
And I wouldn't put any faith into this last one, but it crossed my mind so I should probably give it mention.
5) A dt can do it, used themselves day 2 hence the encoding then and not now.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 10:26 GMT
#1497
On September 23 2011 09:09 TranceStorm wrote:
Hmm, Radfield's flip has tipped me off to a event I found quite curious at the time. I raised a case against supersoft here in which I accused him of using many many excuses to cover up his lack of activity (although he did get to work in the German Parliament - congrats btw).

Radfield responded with this post here - saying that supersoft would be away for the time being. What was curious was that Radfield didn't spend any time at any of the accusations on the periphery players, but chose to respond specifically to my accusation. Whats also curious was that supersoft never explicitly said that he would be away until Wednesday - he said that he was merely working in Berlin until Wednesday (and showed that he could still communicate from his hotel). Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but perhaps Radfield slipped here picking up on something he read from the mafia QT?

Anyways, supersoft has done nothing to alleviate my suspicions with his current activity so I will continue to view him as mafia. I'll join the rest of your discussions in just a minute.


I'm not sure they are scum buddies, I'd assumed it was an excuse to lurk until wednesday too, it just kinda give that vibe with the whole-
"However, because I am not on the scumteam, noone can provide me with information about what's going on. Therefore I have to read the whole thread with my iphone. GG" section.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 14:18 GMT
#1520
On September 23 2011 23:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 23:01 chaoser wrote:
On September 23 2011 22:17 kitaman27 wrote:
sup chaoser,
I saw you return to your house with blood on your hands. Which kill are you claiming?

Sincerely,
Your number one stalker.


What a creepy slime. Like a kraken...

My sword of steel and iron tasted the salty blood of Radfield last night. No hostages were taken. Anyone can counter claim if they want but they're not going to get very far.


lol wrong answer

Show nested quote +
Radfield as Wormtongue, the Deceiver, Mafia Messenger was put to the sword!


Show nested quote +
Ciryandor as Samwise Gamgee, Town Mason Bodyguard was put to the sword night 1!


So this means you would have had to kill prp/ciryandor on day one. Since I know you're going to claim you thought they were scum too, guess what, I have another quote for you:

Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 12:39 chaoser wrote:
Add sandroba to that list of likely to be townie. He was the only person to point out and call me out on the prphlz/ciryandor connection that I missed.


Sandroba posted during night one that prp/ciryandor confirmed eachother as town. That means you would have known they were town, when you shot them. The only reason you would kill them was if you were after the ring. Tough luck.


Don't forget that on night 1 we still thought prplhz was worth a lynch. The only reason we think he's town now is because he was attacked and ciryandor's death confirmed him.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 14:22 GMT
#1524
On September 23 2011 23:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 23:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 23 2011 23:06 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 23 2011 23:01 chaoser wrote:
On September 23 2011 22:17 kitaman27 wrote:
sup chaoser,
I saw you return to your house with blood on your hands. Which kill are you claiming?

Sincerely,
Your number one stalker.


What a creepy slime. Like a kraken...

My sword of steel and iron tasted the salty blood of Radfield last night. No hostages were taken. Anyone can counter claim if they want but they're not going to get very far.


lol wrong answer

Radfield as Wormtongue, the Deceiver, Mafia Messenger was put to the sword!


Ciryandor as Samwise Gamgee, Town Mason Bodyguard was put to the sword night 1!


So this means you would have had to kill prp/ciryandor on day one. Since I know you're going to claim you thought they were scum too, guess what, I have another quote for you:

On September 20 2011 12:39 chaoser wrote:
Add sandroba to that list of likely to be townie. He was the only person to point out and call me out on the prphlz/ciryandor connection that I missed.


Sandroba posted during night one that prp/ciryandor confirmed eachother as town. That means you would have known they were town, when you shot them. The only reason you would kill them was if you were after the ring. Tough luck.


Don't forget that on night 1 we still thought prplhz was worth a lynch. The only reason we think he's town now is because he was attacked and ciryandor's death confirmed him.


lolz, you think chaoser is innocent?


Unless someone counter claims him, he could be a vig. Ciryandor and prplhz can't just 100% confirm each other. What would a sk gain from attacking a top suspect on the votes?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 14:32 GMT
#1529
On September 23 2011 23:29 kitaman27 wrote:
At your earliest convenience of course. Wouldn't want a typo in your fake claim.


All non-town were provided with a safe claim, I don't understand what this would achieve.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 14:48 GMT
#1541
I'm not surprised Palmar is a part of this bue fishing.
Learning his exact capabilites so you can rb him?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 14:48 GMT
#1542
EBWOP blue fishing
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 23 2011 22:59 GMT
#1644
iGrok never mentioned if he killed or not
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 24 2011 17:34 GMT
#1699
On September 24 2011 23:31 Palmar wrote:
don't take orders from scum chaoser!

Oh the irony
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 24 2011 17:58 GMT
#1701
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.

Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.

However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.

Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote

I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 24 2011 18:26 GMT
#1706
On September 25 2011 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 02:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.

Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.

However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.

Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote

I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName


Why do you prefer chaoser lynch over iGrok, given the facts;

1) chaoser shot scum
2) iGrok didn't shoot anyone, instead he comes up with a Saruman over OriginalName.

iGrok was wierdly enough checking ON night 2, when he was pretty sure Palmar is scum (at least he stated so). Why did he check ON over Palmar? The only reason i can think of is that he checked Palmar night 1. Is that so iGrok?

Also he comes with this "ON being Saruman" thing just after heist and Pyo have accused ON. Don't you find it suspicious?


Bottom line first, of course it's suspicious, that doesn't make it impossible. That claim wasn't one of the things that convinced me, because it likely was convenient lie. I wouldn't even put it past him to have found the real Saruman and lied about who rather than be forced out of that information so far from the lynch.

Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that. I'm not sure about iGrok's reasoning, but learning he could be blocked changed things.
The rest of the difference between the two of them in my eyes is related to their claims. Chaoser used a claim that sounded relatively safe, but had many mistakes like Boromir as a neutral party when he was party of the fellowship and a 'win with town' victory condition. iGrok's is nothing near safe and is relatively more believable.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 24 2011 18:34 GMT
#1713
On September 25 2011 03:30 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best


I think we have different definitions of what "Best" means cause I'm pretty sure two mislynches brought on by last minute bandwagons isn't such. You know what, fuck it

##vote: igrok


I'm talking in terms of how many of us were willing to follow him. Leading us in the wrong direction albeit.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 25 2011 01:01 GMT
#1801
I've been thinking about this ever since he flipped, I didn't understand iGrok's motivation for such an unsafe claim, so I made assumptions that ended up making an ass out of me.
It makes so much more sense if the plan was to bus iGrok from the beginning.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 25 2011 18:59 GMT
#1835
On September 25 2011 10:22 prplhz wrote:
lol@cheese

you wanted igrok to survive day2 'cause then he could use sauron's unstoppable kill on me. maybe it's time you do like igrok did and just stop talking.


I think if that were the case you would be dead by now, and frankly, I'm offended that you think I'd want to kill confirmed town.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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