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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 18 2011 23:49 GMT
#661
On September 19 2011 08:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 08:45 iGrok wrote:
Erandorr - somehow appeared on his own vote list?


Wait, what? Is there a scum politician or something? He never posted to change his vote.


Dear Mig, are the votes correct? Or did you make a silly typo? Love, jcarl
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 23:57:31
September 18 2011 23:50 GMT
#662
Yea there was a mistake, Erandorr didn't vote himself, I somehow mixed his name up with drazerk's when typing up the votes. My bad. Everything is correct now.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 00:00 GMT
#663
Can someone summarize why Erandor became the lynch?

I've read most of the posts that were made while I was gone and it's not really making sense to me.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 19 2011 00:03 GMT
#664
On September 19 2011 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Can someone summarize why Erandor became the lynch?

I've read most of the posts that were made while I was gone and it's not really making sense to me.


Because of this:


On September 19 2011 04:48 Radfield wrote:
Errandor is a fantastic Day 1 vote. Lets break down what we're looking for:

1. Low-Mid range activity
2. Vote Contradictions
3. Paragraphy vote posts with BS reasoning
4. 'Contribution' posts that say nothing

+ Show Spoiler +
Lol I think Wbg is just trying to be palmar right now (which is a pretty fucking stupid idea)

If there are post restrictions I would be really surprised because Curu really hates those things . But then he might just take it out on us or do it for some sort of balance reasons so its pure speculation.


First post details that WBG is probably just trolling, and while stupid, isn't really worth much attention. Frankly I agree, but whoops with his second real post Errandor is now willing to vote out WBG:

Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
I want Wbg out of this.
If he is town aligned then hes just shitting up the thread and then doing some analysis which doesnt help us because we have to spend so much time dealing with all his other crap. If he is anything else we want him dead anyway so I am totally cool with that.
And I really cant imagine that he has a post restriction that makes him post like a complete idiot half of the time .
## Vote Wbg


We've gone from WBG trolling to now being worthy of getting lynched day 1. This is the most BS post in the thread right now. First we have the contradiction. Second we have the justification that even if he is town, he's worth getting rid of. NOPE. I realize that's not precisely what's been written, but that is absolutely the intent. Third, this is a complete and utter bandwagon. WBG picks up a couple votes, and Erandorr slides into the scene. Fourth you add in a bit of extra post restriction business which does nothing but cut him down. This is not why we vote! This entire post is showing that Errandor justification for voting WBG is not in fact that he's scum, but rather a bad townie who deserves to die.

An hour and a half later, Errandor posts this:

"Okay I read the whole thread now."

Whoops scum slip. Why are you voting for a player AND THEN reading the thread? Not how townies play.

This is all followed by a bunch more suspicion on WBG, but no actual points against him:

+ Show Spoiler +
I forgot to vote earlier but lets just get wbg out of the game, I feel really uncomfortably by what he was doing.


The reason I want you out is that you clearly have an agenda other than catching scum. That just makes me uncomfortable.


Show nested quote +
You now seem to start contributing, but still will not tell us why you behave the way you do. you dont ask for the ring in every post, so its clearly not that, and just trolled at the start and messed up the thread. I agree with most of your targets, actually, but could you just go back to xliv and compare your behaviour now to that of palmar and then remember how that turned out?


To paraphrase: "You're actually playing good now, but you trolled before. You're targets are all good, but your behaviour is bad"

It's hard to justify killing townies when you're scum isn't it?

Errandor is very scummy, and likely the best vote we'll get:

##Vote: Erandorr



And the subsequent bandwagon happened VERY quickly. I'm more than willing to bet there are multiple scum on this list:

Palmar
Radfield
Syllogism
prplhz
kitaman27
OriginalName
Vain
TranceStorm
xtffc
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 00:04 GMT
#665
Did he get lynched solely because of the edit?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 19 2011 00:05 GMT
#666
On September 19 2011 09:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
Did he get lynched solely because of the edit?


That was sort of the last nail in the coffin. If there were any people on the fence before that, the edit pushed them over the edge. But the bandwagon started before the edit.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 19 2011 00:13 GMT
#667
That edit pretty much swung the last few voters over to get him lynched
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
September 19 2011 00:16 GMT
#668
On September 19 2011 09:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
Did he get lynched solely because of the edit?


That was sort of the last nail in the coffin. If there were any people on the fence before that, the edit pushed them over the edge. But the bandwagon started before the edit.

It's what pushed me to vote for him. I thought he was a better lynch choice than the other 3 options because he botched his defense up so badly and edited. It made me think that he had written something that he was trying to cover up. In hindsight, clearly he panicked or something after getting accused but I didn't have that luxury when voting.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 00:18 GMT
#669
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
September 19 2011 00:21 GMT
#670
I was on the fence on most lynches but the edit and subsequent defense was just...lacking...
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 19 2011 00:52 GMT
#671
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3
Life can only kill you once.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 00:57 GMT
#672
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
September 19 2011 01:06 GMT
#673
On September 19 2011 09:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.

I would like to know why you said that as well Jackal. Did you not read the OP or something?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2011 01:11 GMT
#674
On September 19 2011 09:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.


I don't understand. Are you saying scum voted for you because they thought someone would give you the ring so they could get the ring when you got lynched and thats why me and drazerk voted for you
RIP Aaliyah
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 01:12 GMT
#675
On September 19 2011 10:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.


I don't understand. Are you saying scum voted for you because they thought someone would give you the ring so they could get the ring when you got lynched and thats why me and drazerk voted for you


No, I'm saying scum were already voting me.

Jackal tried making up a reason to vote me and it failed pretty hard.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 19 2011 01:34 GMT
#676
On September 19 2011 10:06 TranceStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.

I would like to know why you said that as well Jackal. Did you not read the OP or something?

Ya I read it. A week ago. My bad.
Life can only kill you once.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
September 19 2011 01:34 GMT
#677
On September 19 2011 08:45 iGrok wrote:
Ok, lets review. Who of the following are the scummiest?

Palmar - Not doing much so far
Radfield - Has been active. Pulled wagons off GreyMist and WBG, onto Errandor. Suspicious.
Syllogism - Was active early on in Ring discussions.
prplhz - Leaving this until later
kitaman27 - No great analysis, but decent reasons for voting and has worked to pressure
OriginalName - After watching him play in Resurrection, he's playing the same way. Minimum contribution to avoid focus.
Vain - 1 liners except to defend prplhz
Erandorr - somehow appeared on his own vote list?
TranceStorm - I see a connection between TranceStorm and Radfield forming when I filter him. TS often references Radfield's arguements. TS also attacked prplhz early on


You tell us iGrok. Who's the scummiest on that list? You seem to have decided not to answer your own question.

By the way, I found someone to add to your list:

iGrok - suspicious of Drazerk, oops not suspicious of Drazerk anymore. Wants to lynch WBG to see what his role does. Contributes absolutely nothing to the eradorr/prp lynch discussion. Makes a list of a seemingly random segment of players

Who's the scummiest person on your list now?

Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 19 2011 01:35 GMT
#678
On September 19 2011 10:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 10:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.


I don't understand. Are you saying scum voted for you because they thought someone would give you the ring so they could get the ring when you got lynched and thats why me and drazerk voted for you


No, I'm saying scum were already voting me.

Jackal tried making up a reason to vote me and it failed pretty hard.

I just think we're all better off without you and the ring in the game.
Life can only kill you once.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 01:39 GMT
#679
On September 19 2011 10:35 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 10:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 19 2011 10:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 19 2011 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the case on Jackal is still pretty strong. We should consider lynching him tomorrow.

Other people who stand out to me are Drazerk and Dr. H.

Palmar still needs to post more, I think I saw a couple by him but he doesn't normally lurk this much.

Sandroba will hopefully have internet tomorrow and will be able to weigh in on all of this. It's not a very good idea to lynch either of them unless they begin showing signs of harboring a scum agenda.

What case? Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch? Or the one where I'm supposed to be some sort of mafia messiah and I haven't delivered you to the promised land yet?

Mig convinced me to stay btw. <3


The one that involves you telling people to give me the ring day 1 (when it's outlined in the OP that the ring may only pass hands at night) and also to lynch me at the same time, coupled with the fact that there were likely multiple scum on my wagon, meaning if I were to receive the ring (and not die) and then be lynched the ring would be sent to one of my voters. AKA scum.

That case.


I don't understand. Are you saying scum voted for you because they thought someone would give you the ring so they could get the ring when you got lynched and thats why me and drazerk voted for you


No, I'm saying scum were already voting me.

Jackal tried making up a reason to vote me and it failed pretty hard.

I just think we're all better off without you and the ring in the game.


Yeah, since giving me the ring definitely takes both of us out, right?

If you truly believed that why did you want me to get lynched?

Not to mention, why didn't you read the OP about the ring being untransferable during the day?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 01:40 GMT
#680
On September 19 2011 10:34 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 08:45 iGrok wrote:
Ok, lets review. Who of the following are the scummiest?

Palmar - Not doing much so far
Radfield - Has been active. Pulled wagons off GreyMist and WBG, onto Errandor. Suspicious.
Syllogism - Was active early on in Ring discussions.
prplhz - Leaving this until later
kitaman27 - No great analysis, but decent reasons for voting and has worked to pressure
OriginalName - After watching him play in Resurrection, he's playing the same way. Minimum contribution to avoid focus.
Vain - 1 liners except to defend prplhz
Erandorr - somehow appeared on his own vote list?
TranceStorm - I see a connection between TranceStorm and Radfield forming when I filter him. TS often references Radfield's arguements. TS also attacked prplhz early on


You tell us iGrok. Who's the scummiest on that list? You seem to have decided not to answer your own question.

By the way, I found someone to add to your list:

iGrok - suspicious of Drazerk, oops not suspicious of Drazerk anymore. Wants to lynch WBG to see what his role does. Contributes absolutely nothing to the eradorr/prp lynch discussion. Makes a list of a seemingly random segment of players

Who's the scummiest person on your list now?



I like how one of the biggest lynch targets of yesterday, Jackal, is conveniently missing from that list of his.
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