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kitaman27
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On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?
I am a medic
I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.
I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.
Now can we vote for someone more productive?
You're a day medic? Or are you a night medic whose protection followed over to day 2? Also, could you explain your reasoning for protecting iGrok over anyone else?
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kitaman27
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If you are a medic, would you be willing to share your role name?
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On September 22 2011 03:32 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:31 syllogism wrote:
Also why are you role claiming medic to save a third party? Huh? Because it was obvious to me I would not survive another cycle anyway so I may as well stop two easy lynches.
Why wouldn't you survive another cycle?
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kitaman27
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You say you didn't get a scum vibe from iGrok. Were you getting a town vibe? Did you think he would be a likely day one hit?
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Its also pretty unlikely that we have a third medic. Our jailer got lynched day one and draz is claiming as the second. Scum do have to worry about watchers, so it doesn't necesssarily mean he is scum if he survives the night.
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kitaman27
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iGrok here are your conditions, if you fail to follow them, we instantly lynch you:
1) You will never receive the ring. Don't bother asking for it again. You becoming bulletproof is of little interest to town.
2) You shoot tonight at the target we provide you. You're not holding on to your kp until late game where you can decide to use it on whichever faction benefits you most.
3) You're not allowed to completely disappear for the remainder of the game. You don't get a free pass. You have to continue to give us your scum reads.
Between Palmar and Jackal, I think Jackal is probably the better choice. He just lacks the aggressiveness and the confidence that I'm used to seeing from him. He played a similar style back in PTP (1 or 2?) where he never really accused anyone and maintained a low profile as the serial killer.
##Vote Jackal58
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On September 22 2011 11:58 sandroba wrote:
Okay got info from the host himself. Town win con is to eliminte all evil and that includes ALL third party. iGrok's claim is impossible.
If that's the case, IGrok is our day three lynch (assuming he survives the night).
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On September 23 2011 00:20 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 23:45 Curu wrote:
An unblockable kill can be roleblocked (ironically enough). It will go through all protections except those that cause the action to never be carried out in the first place. Major fuck up by me  Sorry Sandro, I didn't get what you were saying until I got back. Why did no one listen to this: + Show Spoiler +On September 22 2011 06:51 sandroba wrote:
Man here is the deal. Let's assume igrok is telling the truth. We don't lynch him and we tell him to shoot X person tonight. Obviously if that person is mafia he will be roleblocked. If the person is town they will either let the shot go through or roleblock him and create a fucking mess and possibly waste more lynches. He can withold his shot indefinitely and claim rb. He can claim he found saruman at any time and possibly make us mislynch. We can't deal with him later in the game close to lylo. So even if he is actually telling the truth I don't see how we can trust this and trust he won't do pro-mafia actions. There is currently 7 townies and 1 mafia dead, so I know who I would side with if I was what he claims to be. Mafia is never going to get rid of him for us. We can either lynch him now or have a copy of this day at a later date, so I don't think we have much of a choice besides lynching him now. Or ask if an unblockable kill could be roleblocked.... Obviously we're not picking a specific target, which means that we either give iGrok a range of several targets, or have him not shoot at all. At this point it makes far more sense to have him not shoot at all. If he is mafia, a range of targets is exactly what he wants, as he just picks the townie out of the mix. If he is mafia and told not to shoot, then we at least have some tools available if there are too many night kills. Also, if he is told not to shoot and still shoots, he runs the risk being tracked to a target. Thoughts?
Do we really want a third party survivor to hold onto a kp late game? I think he should shoot, since it minimizes his threat to town. If he doesn't shoot, on day 4/5 he could aim his sights on town in an attempt to give control of the lynch to scum. Also, even if his shot is role blocked, that's still a role block that's not being used on town.
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kitaman27
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On September 23 2011 02:08 Drazerk wrote:
Also as for the posting restriction... lets just say I had one and now I don't.
Arwen, the Evenstar has a post restriction? Could you clarify what made it go away?
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kitaman27
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On September 23 2011 02:45 syllogism wrote:
Which is also then when his PR ended
So you buy the fact that he has a PR? Do you really think Curu would include them in his set-up after a comment like this, the game earlier? Something is not right...
On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Thanks for hosting.
I am never playing in a game with post restrictions again though. I realize most weren't half as bad as people were conveying, but seriously. Kurumi mucked up the entirety of day 1 when he was not obliged to, LSB never explained the kitaman thing leading everyone to ignore him as a troll, etc.
In the end I think it was the post restrictions that really raped Town. Mafia could act however they wanted and no one could be sure because Town was overplaying their own restrictions. That and the fact that the only active veteran players got sniped night 1 and Town was left with only a few people that even gave a shit about the game.
I apologize to anyone I flamed or called bad during the game. This was the most frustrated I've ever been playing a Mafia game because of my very much unmet expectations for the playerlist and the general nobody-cares-but-me feeling the entire Town was giving.
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kitaman27
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I HAVE 15 NIGHT ACTIONS!
*evil laugh*
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On September 23 2011 06:00 prplhz wrote:
so there are hobbits in this game?! interesting
Hobbit party at my place.
Everyone be sure to bring all your jewelry!
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Here are my current thoughts:
Draz is probably making up his posting restriction. I just can't see curu putting one in after saying he will never play a game with PR's again. On the other hand, I don't really see what there is to gain from claiming a PR and then saying its gone.
sandroba is has been far less involved in the game than people seem to be noticing. The only person he has aggressively pushed is iGrok, who was an extremely easy target. Something that people may have forgotten, is that sandroba promised analysis on chaoser, yet never delivered. I'm leaning scum.
I like how radfield came in and called my super scummy without providing a single reason. He calls out people like pyro for not making a case, yet lists a bunch of random names himself and calls them scum. He should definitely be considered for tomorrow if he survives the night.
Half the town is lurkers and it is going to be a complete pain to deal with them at late game. These guys need to really start sharing their opinions and leading lynches. Out of the lurkers, heist and ON worry me the most, because the are so conservative in pushing their opinions. I might make a better case on one of them tomorrow if I'm still alive.
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kitaman27
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Also, chaoser for SK. lolz
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On September 23 2011 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, chaoser for SK. lolz
Or scum. Him claiming to falsely take a hit would be consistent with his fake dt claim. He is completely hiding in the shadows.
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kitaman27
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iGrok, who was your shot last night?
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Unless scum double stacked syllo or sandroba, DrH's death might have caused the mafia kp to drop to 2.
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On September 23 2011 08:38 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 08:29 Drazerk wrote:On September 23 2011 08:25 GreYMisT wrote:On September 23 2011 08:21 OriginalName wrote:On September 23 2011 08:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this message? Do you guys think it combines with the message from day1?
Ugluk is the orc who capped Merry and Pippen during two towers... Well thank god someone knows the lore more than I do, I was trying to find permutations of Ugluk that made sense. I Agree. Either we have pleased the mods and they have decided to make things easier for us, or something isnt right with this message. But that leaves a question: Why is this one so easy to understand, but none of us could figure out the first one? I came up with three possibilities 1. That is a translated version of the day 1. ( DT scans sends message then someone else translates?) 2. Mafia have left this to try and trick us. 3. Curu likes giving us scum? I'm hoping its the 3rd one, sadly its probally the second. Chaoser and Kitman, Do you agree with my plan to have whoever Radfield was talking to the previous day come forward?
Yep, I don't see why scum would mason a fellow scum on night one, so they would be practically confirmed town.
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