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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 06:33 GMT
#1027
Apparently I can.

So, your medic is fucking dumb.

Though after the game ends I'm going to chew you out for playing dumb, this is actually hilarious
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 06:47 GMT
#1031
On September 21 2011 15:35 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 15:33 iGrok wrote:
Apparently I can.

So, your medic is fucking dumb.

Though after the game ends I'm going to chew you out for playing dumb, this is actually hilarious

Calling bullshit on the medic, so you are still lying scum or a bulletproof SK and if you don't see how my above logic makes perfect sense, that just makes you even scummier

Sure man.

Should clarify that I don't know that its a medic.

Anyways. I'm alive, and you're dumb as fuck for using a dayvig shot on a claimed survivor.

DT check me if you want, but I've come out as a survivor, made my deal with you, and now I'll wait.

When someone less dumb comes on, look at my claim and decide for yourself.

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, you used a fucking dayvig shot on a SURVIVOR

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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 07:02 GMT
#1034
. I am not a vet (at least not to my knowledge).
. I was told I took a hit right after you used cleave.

: Either I'm secret vet, or a medic saved me. Or something else happened.

Actually, unless there's a daymedic it wouldn't have mattered, so...

I don't fucking know.

And I would know if I already had the ring I believe?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 07:07 GMT
#1035
Ok its 2am now so I'll make it brief: my best guess is something we don't know jack shit about happened.

Until its not just me and syllogism, I'm taking a nap.

Wake me when someone useful shows up.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 10:15 GMT
#1043
On September 21 2011 19:10 prplhz wrote:
so igrok's defense is "i'm only acting scum so that scum wont hit me 'cause i'm 3rd party!" i think you need to cook up something better than "give me the ring and i might eventually kill saruman who may be evil"

also, lore wise, sauron was maia but gandalf/saruman/radagast weren't. they were istari and if you check out sauron's and gandalf's flips you'll see that gandalf doesn't have maia passive ability. i know your post said "those were the four names i was given in my role pm" but it just doesn't make sense and curu doesn't seem like the kind of guy who'd make that mistake, especially since role descriptions clearly state who is maia and who is istari.

you're pretty scum igrok.


Lore-wise, you're full of shit.
Maiar: Eönwë | Ilmarë | Ossë | Uinen | Salmar | Sauron | Melian | Arien | Tilion | Gothmog
Curumo (Saruman) | Ungoliant | Olórin (Gandalf) | Aiwendil (Radagast) | Alatar (Morinehtar) | Pallando (Rómestámo) | Durin's Bane


Source: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Maia
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 10:16 GMT
#1044
Seriously, all I'm waiting for now is the "you're defending yourself, you must be scum!" post. Where are you?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 10:31 GMT
#1046
Oh, ##vote: Palmar.
For everything I said earlier.
+ Show Spoiler [For those of you who skipped my big post] +
On September 18 2011 08:24 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood so I'm not gonna ruin it by reading the thread. See you tomorrow

This was his first post. Nothing scummy here, but it sets the mood for everything else he posts.

Now, here's a list of his opinions since then.
Radfield, WBG, Errandor
prplhz
DrH
Radfield, himself, Sandroba, Pyo

Pause. Next post.

On September 20 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote:
On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote:
prplhz should probably give the ring away to his strongest townread. I'd go with one of Radfield, Sandroba, myself and pyo.


Derp... prplhz said he doesn't actually have the ring.


In any case, if you're lying, you should consider giving it away.

btw, Sandroba is almost definitely town, but only if he takes his vote off me. I'm basically confirmed town from my exchanges with DrH, but only people like sandroba/syllo etc will see it.

We need to keep an eye on syllo... yarly.

chaoser is also very likely town. I don't like the smell of iGrok and Kita...

Here, minimal interaction with DrH is played off as enough to auto-confirm him. This post sets off alarm bells in my head. Palmar contributed 4 posts before DrH died, 2 of which were "Herp I'm not reading the thread" (He was obviously reading the thread). Its his fourth post that interests me: "DrH is giving me really bad vibes." At the time, it looked like just another throwaway post. But post DrH's death, this post looks more like DrH new he was going to be modkilled and Palmar jumped out early to get a townie point.

For the rest of the game, two things are going on. He puts faith in Radfield, and he continues to stress Sandroba town. (yes theres other shit but those're the important parts)

Palmar already feels scummy. So lets continue on that assumption, and introduce possibilities.
1)Radfield and Sandroba are both town. If this is true, then Palmar is trying to gain town cred when they flip. With sandroba acting scummy and a possible lynch, and Radfield a good mafia target, thats two points for him. Fits with calling DrH scum.
2)Radfield is town, Sandroba is scum. This is using Radfield's town cred to make Sandroba look better. Even those who don't trust Palmar will subliminally put them on closer levels. If sandroba didn't look so damn scummy, it might work.
3)Radfield is scum, Sandroba is town. I just... don't see this as possible.
4)Both are scum. I don't know what this would mean actually
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#1220
I'm awake now, and I've calmed down a bit.

First: Palmar, you try to meta me from a game I was BLUE. Dumb.



Now, some of you don't get why I claimed. So look at it from my perspective.

You have a check. You have a oneshot unblockable kill. If you get the ring, you become bulletproof.
If you get the ring, you're fucking set, and you become a town-aligned Bullet-Proof Vigilante with a bonus check.

I doubt mafia have a SECOND unblockable shot, it died with Sauron. Which means I really am unkillable by mafia, which makes me town-aligned.

I'll prove it. I'm not listening to syllogism or Palmar. However, syllogism, who do you think is the most town - I'll let them pick.

Fair compromise?

This is so similar to the Protactinium situation chaoser - but its better for town, and thats why I thought it would work this time.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#1222
On September 22 2011 05:57 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:51 iGrok wrote:
I'm awake now, and I've calmed down a bit.

First: Palmar, you try to meta me from a game I was BLUE. Dumb.



Now, some of you don't get why I claimed. So look at it from my perspective.

You have a check. You have a oneshot unblockable kill. If you get the ring, you become bulletproof.
If you get the ring, you're fucking set, and you become a town-aligned Bullet-Proof Vigilante with a bonus check.

I doubt mafia have a SECOND unblockable shot, it died with Sauron. Which means I really am unkillable by mafia, which makes me town-aligned.

I'll prove it. I'm not listening to syllogism or Palmar. However, syllogism, who do you think is the most town - I'll let them pick.

Fair compromise?

This is so similar to the Protactinium situation chaoser - but its better for town, and thats why I thought it would work this time.



There's no way you're telling the whole truth about your role. Absolutely no way. Your wincon makes no sense, as it's far too easy for you achieve victory. The rest I can buy, but there is no way you are getting the ring.

If you are an Assassin, you are dead tonight. I hope you realize that.

DT me bro
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#1233
People still voting for me:
Palmar
GGQ
Sandroba
syllogisim
prplhz
raynpelikoneet

Palmar is scum (for reasons I've stated before, scum is scared of me.

The rest of you: you really can't see why lynching me today is dumb?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 21:28 GMT
#1235
By my count, 5 people haven't voted yet.
Jackal
kitaman
Vain
supersoft
jcarlsoniv

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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 21:33 GMT
#1236
I have to leave now.

When you're voting, think about things from my perspective. Everything I've done this game, including claiming, makes sense.

Even if you aren't sure, I'm at the mercy of the town anyways. Let me prove who I am.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 21:35 GMT
#1238
On September 22 2011 06:33 prplhz wrote:
iGrok, could you refresh my memory, why is Palmar and scum scared of you?

Because if I get the ring they can't touch me and can find Saruman.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2011 21:35 GMT
#1239
EBWOP: and I can find Saruman
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 22 2011 03:57 GMT
#1299
Seriously, has no one played in a game with a survivor besides me?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#1315
Syllogism, who do you trust to both be a townie and have good judgement?

Obviously you fail the second criteria. Anyone who passes both?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 22 2011 07:52 GMT
#1317
On September 22 2011 15:41 syllogism wrote:
The answer is likely "no one" and I've no reason to answer the question given that I've no idea what you are going to do with this information. If you are miraculously a third party who isn't SK and truly wanted to help town, you wouldn't need me to answer that question. You said I don't have good judgment and then ask me to make such a decision for you? If the intention is to have this other person to unilaterally decide for you whom to shoot with your alleged ability, clearly you don't want to take responsibility if the target flips town.

Haha, no, to be honest at this point I'm just messing with you.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 23 2011 20:10 GMT
#1620
On September 24 2011 01:58 GreYMisT wrote:
iGrok claimed to want the ring, because that would make him bullet proof. However here we see that you are not told what you can do with the ring until you have it.

Its time to see what role iGrok really has

##Vote iGrok


That's my passive ability. After the game I'll paste the PM, and you shall see.

You guys are really going to kill me. Wow.

It's been fun I guess?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 23 2011 20:12 GMT
#1621
Oh and I found a Maia last night lol. Which means I found Saruman. But no way in hell am I telling you guys.

You're going to kill me.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 23 2011 20:23 GMT
#1623
On September 24 2011 05:21 heist wrote:
You do realize your best chance is to offer him up to take your place. Play to win.

The moment I flip his name, I'm going to get lynched anyways and he'll be shot at night.
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