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heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 23 2011 20:47 GMT
#1626
So out of everyone in the Jackal lynch, let's look at ON in comparison to the two confirmed mafia: Radfield and Dr Helvetica

On September 17 2011 10:12 OriginalName wrote:
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Step 3, avoid lynching an easy target. This is a player with a few bad posts, or some flip floppy votes, or a badly phrased 'scum slip'. Easy targets give scum great excuses to get on a bandwagon. Instead we're going to lynch someone who is fairly active, but not saying anything worthwhile. With 5 posts per cycle it means we're going to have something to go on, however likely not till the later half of Day 1. Which leads to:


I just want to point out how important this is before i read thread.


The original quote is by Radfield. His very first post is saying, "Good town post Radfield. Everyone should be listening to you."

On September 17 2011 11:10 OriginalName wrote:
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On September 17 2011 10:29 chaoser wrote:
OriginalName, what do you "sorta see" about greymist?


I sort of see why people are suspicous but it really boils down to a poor reaction to a really null tell (IE fishing for the ring as if you noted i fished for the wand in PYP2 and flipped town) I want to see how things develop first.


Greymist is sort of suspicious so don't worry about the people (one of whom is Dr Helvetica) who are voting for Greymist. They are justified, but I'm also staying really noncommittal in case this actually results in a lynch.

On September 18 2011 03:34 OriginalName wrote:
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Furthermore, your reasoning for attacking Drazerk is a little troubling. So... if I understand correctly, DrH and Drazerk do the exact same thing, but one is a vet townie and one is scummy? Based purely on how you good you think they are? You also provide additional justification in saying he attacked you. He never attacked you, he called you out for claiming VT. I can believe you made a mistake, but your reactions so far to being challenged is one that I find highly suspicious.


Im 99% sure DrH is not doing the exact same thing as Drazerk to begin with...


Another indirect defense of Dr Helvetica. Didn't read it in context. He just saw DrH and came to his defense.

On September 19 2011 04:26 OriginalName wrote:
Im not voting WBG, he reeks of the weird combination of my play in PTP2 and incogs play (althought not as strong) in PYPI.

Frankly I see Prpl as a decent lynch, but I see the reasoning behind Jackal at the same time.

This however seems kind of off to me,
Show nested quote +

i also want to tell sandroba and palmar that i have the eru-iluvatar-given ability to instantly kill them at my will if they don't start posting.


Basically hes soft claiming some sort of day vigilante, would you care to explain this better prpl?


Bluefishing. It's obviously a joke. More noncommittal attitudes on Jackal and prplhz. Great. What changes his mind?

On September 19 2011 04:39 OriginalName wrote:
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On September 19 2011 04:37 prplhz wrote:
@ON

is that the most blatant omgus i have ever seen?


Then your completely out of your fucking mind.

You claim ability to kill two random lurkers given by god.

Then laugh in my face.


This ridiculous exchange with prplhz that supposedly tips him over the fence. Nice excuse not to provide any analysis.

On September 20 2011 11:31 OriginalName wrote:
Im going to focus on the people who stayed on bugs until the end of yesterday for my lynch targets today.

This is mostly based on most of them managing to lurk harder than me. Which saying alot I personally dont like the vibe i get off of iGrok/DrH. I avoided DrH yesterday because i was increadably unsure of WBG until later on and I decided based on the reasons i have stated to move over to Errandor.

Pyo I even forgot was playing until about he a few posts one of which was chastising my FoS on Navillus which i by the way look back on and realize that I was being an idiot.

His reasoning behind voting WBG basically went oh DrH said hes third party so im going to agree without posting my own contributions and uses this reasoning:

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Throw on top of that the potential that he's full of shit or that we might learn something about the game set-up/mechanics, I'm perfectly happy to see him flip



Hes just adovacting a pure info lynch that really doesnt tell us jackshit in either case. Afterwords WBG then calls him out for the same thing I am he responds with this:

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way to not read my post and selectively bolded not my reason for voting for you – getting information is only icing on the cake... I'm voting for you because your indirect 3rd party claim is bizarre and distracting at best



I dont see any bizarre third party claim, I see hints at it but it obviously wasnt what he had in mind. Sure he was trolling abit but this seems like a really weak line of reasoning, despite how we were starting to realize that he probably was not scum.

He also does nothing BUT push WBG almost refusing to otherwise consider other candidates other than call out Archo_Toilet for being scummier than GGQ who he was voting however he basically did one post and another paragraph later and did not pursue it much farther.

Along with that he has completely flown under the radar and iirc not many people have called him out.

As such I will be.

##Vote Pyo


+ Show Spoiler +
if im on the wrong track again for the love of god speak now.


His main analysis day 2 is on the one person attacking Radfield and his main reasoning is pyo's vote on WBG, null tells considering every lynch was on a townie. And who is the only one who agrees with him on his accusation? Radfield.

On September 22 2011 06:39 Radfield wrote:
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On September 22 2011 06:06 OriginalName wrote:
Im down for lynching one of those two but I havent decided which one I want to move to yet.

I still think Pyo is a decent lynch but I agree that vote spreading can be detremental at this point.

Radfield purely out of curiousity why Jackal over Palmar?


I'm more sure of Jackal than Palmar. Jackal has done nothing this game but antagonize and cut players down, yet has no reads at all of those people. Palmar is on the short list, but I see no reason to put a bunch of reads out and let mafia cherry pick the lynch.


On September 22 2011 07:12 OriginalName wrote:
Im voting jackal. Not much more to say I could write a huge massive wall of text that you guys wont read anyways but I feel like actually enjoying RL.

Jist of it is:

Meh D1 with shitty excuses
Some random contradition about 95% of the time he has shit reads on D1 and then swears on his grave that it was a good read, then turns out to be a shit read.

+ Show Spoiler +
Im just going to point out my opinion on WBG, yes he trolled the shit out of us for 24-36 hours but the last few hours he just seemed townie to me.


lastly now that we have lots of pressure on him he just uses shitty one liners to defend himself.

##Vote Jackal58




He clearly follows Radfield's lead for his final vote.

##Vote: Original_Name
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 23 2011 21:13 GMT
#1630
You need to give time for people to switch.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 24 2011 00:16 GMT
#1665
On September 24 2011 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
heist: What is ON flips town? Then we have to lynch iGrok for the THIRD time lol. And no matter what he flips after that is gonna be you. And if your analysis on ON was just horribly wrong, we had wasted 3 townmembers just to lynch iGrok.

Guess what, then it's no use to even talk about LYLO anymore..

I'm not even considering to switch my vote off iGrok, unless he actually starts doing something (aka tells us who saruman is). He already failed to shoot last night, and now he comes up with this Saruman thing. Also i'm curious why Drazerk isn't dead already.




ON's flip has nothing to do with iGrok. ON is simply my best suspicion for mafia. If he flips red, that tells you nothing about iGrok. If he flips green, the better alternative is not automatically iGrok. Do you see how easily the votes are piling on iGrok? Mafia are perfectly fine lynching a 3rd party. And what do you mean "no matter what he flips after that is gonna be you"?


On September 24 2011 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm just bored and iGrok is not helping. And if he's not helping i just have to sit and watch this thread like 24h :E


Oh woe is you. Stop sitting on your ass with your easy iGrok vote. Look into other people. The game isn't won on the off-chance iGrok flips red. Please don't waste our time with foolish joke claims.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 25 2011 12:39 GMT
#1822
chaoser i sincerely hope you don't waste your KP on someone stupid

and yeah fine ill admit I was wrong about iGrok.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 25 2011 19:14 GMT
#1837
Palmar always claims he's confirmed townie. Don't look too much into it.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 26 2011 00:23 GMT
#1927
Seriously rayn? Get your vote off him and do some actual searching.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 26 2011 00:29 GMT
#1931
ON who is your best read for mafia? If it's me, I expect something more substantial than my defending of iGrok.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#2034
Sorry I've been busy. As far as I'm concerned, pushing to lynch iGrok is a null tell.

I strongly recommend looking more closely at the people who voted for Jackal day 2.

Greymist
chaoser - no mafia vibe
Drazerk -no mafia vibe
raynpelikoneet
jcarlsoniv - no mafia vibe
TranceStorm
OriginalName
kitaman - no mafia vibe

My suspicions are largely still on ON but at this point, it's mainly because he's the only vet on the list that I have suspicions for. He should be playing better as town. I'm going to be honest, I'm not really trusting my instincts at this point.

*On Drazerk: Curu told him prplhz was hit. Drazerk knows he protected him. I think he inferred it was a stacked hit rather than unblockable.


heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 22:01 GMT
#2262
I've been more busy than I thought I would be. So if I understand correctly,

Most of us believe Kita's claim as tracker.

Most of us believe Chaoser can only be 3rd party or town.

Why are they our two best candidates?

I don't want to lynch someone guaranteed to not be scum, but at the same time, how are you guys so sure of your convictions on a confirmed tracker?

And please waiting a few hours before revealing is not that big of a deal.

I'd still rather lynch ON than those two.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#2266
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 22:11 GMT
#2271
On September 28 2011 07:08 Drazerk wrote:
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On September 28 2011 07:08 heist wrote:
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?


No which is why I am not voting for either at the moment


I think you and I are in the same boat, contrary to the confidence Palmar has.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 23:53 GMT
#2473
Buck up guys. All is not lost. All you have to do is trust me, trust Drazerk, and trust Kita.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 23:59 GMT
#2482
Mafia has been decimated of their vets. We know the neutrals. Don't know why everyone is ready to give up.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#2485
Fine don't. But dear god, dont kill me.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:04 GMT
#2488
Just look at this list:

Greymist
raynpelikoneet
jcarlsoniv
TranceStorm

Out of these 4, at least 1 is mafia. Bet on it.

heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:04 GMT
#2491
Trancestorm is my best guess out of the list.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:05 GMT
#2492
With rayn as a close second
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:08 GMT
#2494
Hmm i was leaning town on jcarl with pyo and archon as complete tossups.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:11 GMT
#2497
At this point, sorry to say, none of the lynches have been really informative. He's a reasonable guy with a good presence.

So in essence, gut read. I have no clear reads on anyone anymore esp. with the ON flip.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 28 2011 00:11 GMT
#2498
THat's the jackal lynch
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