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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 16:30 GMT
#1101
On September 22 2011 01:10 Radfield wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:17 syllogism wrote:
But does Balrog the SK make sense to you? Balrog the mafia seems more realistic and I don't know why he would voluntarily claim balrog instead of his real role (that is, he would then be SK with a more fitting character). He was going to get lynched unless his claim was very good and if this claim buys him that one day, it's a success. He could have a vital scum role that he can use tonight, though I'm not sure how I could reconcile that with him surviving a shot.



The problem is there is no impetus for scum to claim third party. Why not just claim town power role, as that is far easier to pull off. Not to mention that towns absolutely LOVE piling on a confirmed third party.

Buying himself an extra day is possible, but if that's his strategy then this is a terrible way to do it.

Here's the thing, if iGrok was confirmed Third Party, we would absolutely NOT be lynching him. Thing is, this is a totally bullshit claim, and nothing stacks up in that claim.

One thing is for certain, iGrok is certainly not town as no townie would ever make that claim. If no one is willing to back me on Jackal(or Pyo) then we should bring the hammer down on iGrok.

Why am I scum again? You're not answering me. Why are you not answering me?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 18:31 GMT
#1144
Scum buddies.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 18:55 GMT
#1180
On September 22 2011 03:37 chaoser wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:25 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:13 chaoser wrote:
iGrok's claim makes no sense as a mafia, it makes more sense as a third party trying to fulfill their wincon early. I'm ok with a jackal lynch. He's posting a lot in the pony thread, not a lot here. Everything else radfield has said. If wherebugsgo is a mafia hit then it makes sense for jackal to push for the ring to be given to wherebugsgo. WBG gets ring, dies to mafia.

##vote: Jackal58


Could you explain how your opinion shifted from lynching igrok to letting him live in such a short amount of time? How did the claim go from scum to no sense as mafia? Also, what in specific about radfield's case makes you think jackal is scum?


I never said he was scum. I was thinking how it was protactinium all over again (black role saying it would help town if town helped it) and voted him on a jerk-knee reaction. 5 minutes later I remembered that the way we dealt with the prot case was to just let him die and not wasting a lynch. We're here to lynch mafia, not waste time on third parties. A third party lynch is a lynch that mafia loves. They get to pile on to the vote with almost no repercussions since black role is "anti-town" and it also gets rid of a competitor. Let the mafia deal with it, I assume iGrok is balrog=SK since he's apparently bulletproof (syg day shot him).

This part got me convinced:

Show nested quote +
He also claims that he's fine with lynching either Prp or WBG and that both are scummy.

Although after prplhz's last post he is putting forth a 100% complete scum agenda. I'm ok with lynching either of them. (WBG or prplhz)


Yet later in the thread jackal makes two things very clear. One: WBG is very likely third party(pushes this multiple times) and Two: Jackal would vote for a scummy player but doesn't find anyone else scummy:

Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch?


I can understand if there was a transition between the two but there wasn't. He goes from "I think prp is a good scum vote straight to "vote wbg!".

What about you?

Put it in the context it was posted in.
On September 18 2011 21:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Then I suppose it's time for a paradigm shift Mr. jcarlsoniv.
Although after prplhz's last post he is putting forth a 100% complete scum agenda. I'm ok with lynching either of them. (WBG or prplhz)


You've just flip flopped on iGrok and me. I guess that makes you scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 19:28 GMT
#1200
On September 22 2011 03:57 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:55 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:37 chaoser wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:25 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:13 chaoser wrote:
iGrok's claim makes no sense as a mafia, it makes more sense as a third party trying to fulfill their wincon early. I'm ok with a jackal lynch. He's posting a lot in the pony thread, not a lot here. Everything else radfield has said. If wherebugsgo is a mafia hit then it makes sense for jackal to push for the ring to be given to wherebugsgo. WBG gets ring, dies to mafia.

##vote: Jackal58


Could you explain how your opinion shifted from lynching igrok to letting him live in such a short amount of time? How did the claim go from scum to no sense as mafia? Also, what in specific about radfield's case makes you think jackal is scum?


I never said he was scum. I was thinking how it was protactinium all over again (black role saying it would help town if town helped it) and voted him on a jerk-knee reaction. 5 minutes later I remembered that the way we dealt with the prot case was to just let him die and not wasting a lynch. We're here to lynch mafia, not waste time on third parties. A third party lynch is a lynch that mafia loves. They get to pile on to the vote with almost no repercussions since black role is "anti-town" and it also gets rid of a competitor. Let the mafia deal with it, I assume iGrok is balrog=SK since he's apparently bulletproof (syg day shot him).

This part got me convinced:

He also claims that he's fine with lynching either Prp or WBG and that both are scummy.

Although after prplhz's last post he is putting forth a 100% complete scum agenda. I'm ok with lynching either of them. (WBG or prplhz)


Yet later in the thread jackal makes two things very clear. One: WBG is very likely third party(pushes this multiple times) and Two: Jackal would vote for a scummy player but doesn't find anyone else scummy:

Oh the one where I thought lynching a 3rd party suspect was better than a mislynch?


I can understand if there was a transition between the two but there wasn't. He goes from "I think prp is a good scum vote straight to "vote wbg!".

What about you?

Put it in the context it was posted in.
On September 18 2011 21:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Then I suppose it's time for a paradigm shift Mr. jcarlsoniv.
Although after prplhz's last post he is putting forth a 100% complete scum agenda. I'm ok with lynching either of them. (WBG or prplhz)


You've just flip flopped on iGrok and me. I guess that makes you scum.


I posted my reasoning for the switch (he's probably third party, let mafia deal with him). You didn't.

I really don't like revisiting this:
On September 19 2011 08:41 Jackal58 wrote:
You're about as much fun to play with as a burning bag of catshit.

Replace me Curu.

What part do you fail to comprehend?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 21:09 GMT
#1228
On September 22 2011 06:06 OriginalName wrote:
Im down for lynching one of those two but I havent decided which one I want to move to yet.

I still think Pyo is a decent lynch but I agree that vote spreading can be detremental at this point.

Radfield purely out of curiousity why Jackal over Palmar?

Scum buddies
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 21:11 GMT
#1230
On September 22 2011 04:33 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:28 Jackal58 wrote:
I really don't like revisiting this:
On September 19 2011 08:41 Jackal58 wrote:
You're about as much fun to play with as a burning bag of catshit.

Replace me Curu.

What part do you fail to comprehend?


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On September 20 2011 14:15 Curu wrote:
After discussion with Mig and BC I have decided to modkill xtfftc, Navillus, chaos13 and DoctorHelvetica. I will discuss the decision after the game. Modkill post will be coming up shortly. Anybody requesting future replacement, simply announce it in the thread and send me a PM with your reasons. Do not post something like chaos13 did, that is blatantly affecting people's reads on you when replacing out.


Don't try to use your asking for a replacement as some sort of "town cred" bullshit. I already called chaos13 out on it, don't you do it too.

I'm not. That's why my vote stayed on Bugs. What part of that is so damn hard for you to comprehend?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 23:01 GMT
#1269
Thanks. I'm genuinely mad.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#1275
On September 22 2011 08:05 Mig wrote:
Vain and supersoft didn't vote. You get 1 warning. Next time its a mod kill. Don't make us modkill you seriously.

Kill them lightheartedly.

By guys. Good luck town. Have fun. Ya maroons. :p
Life can only kill you once.
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