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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 02 2011 00:02 GMT
#2781
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 02 2011 00:18 GMT
#2782
Hmm, why were those two chosen as kills? Is mafia trying to lead us towards a certain mislynch today or are they just dodging protections?

I was rb'd again last night.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 00:36 GMT
#2783
These kills make no sense, one of kita or drazerk is mafia, maybe both. If kita was actually tracker, mafia would have killed him outright. The possibility that we would lynch the RB increases as the number of players in the game dwindles. The day RB is lynched, mafia is fucked cause they would have to kill Drazerk first before they coul kill kita, letting him get off a track which would probably out the next person of theirs. At the very least they would have killed Drazerk to set up the stage to kill kita if their RB gets lynched. I'm going to look over the log he posted, try to see if there's discrepancies.

@GGQ, no matter what you think I am, if I was SK then town has already lost. There'd be 3 KP in play and there'd only be 3 townies left if I was SK. That would mean town has lost the game. Now, you can either believe that I'm SK and submit to the fact that town has already lost the game, or you can believe that I'm now a vanilla townie and help me lynch mafia. If I was really still SK I would have shot someone I believed to be mafia last night. That would have made it 3 townies-2 mafia-1 me, still LYLO. Right now, if I was SK, I would have to rely on town to win the game. You really think I would do that as SK?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 02 2011 00:43 GMT
#2784
Even if he was a SK, which seems pretty unlikely at this point, it doesn't matter GGQ. We need to lynch scum today.

It's feasible that draz protected you as a scum medic the previous night, knowing that you would be hit in an attempt to confirm himself as a town medic. He did protect scum on night one, with his oddly chosen save of iGrok and he needed a reason to not be hit since claiming on day two. I'm not sure if scum would be willing to waste a kp though that late in the game. Or this could very well be an attempt to make us question the kills and redirect ourselves from cheese/trance.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
October 02 2011 01:04 GMT
#2785
A message has been delivered to all within the realm!

The message reads:

It's only a matter of time until Drazerk's posting restrictions kick in. It's somewhat like Magic isn't it?

wat
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:08 GMT
#2786
22. Cyber_Cheese
27. heist
30. TranceStorm

5. kitaman27
28. Drazerk

23. chaoser
6. GGQ

Here's my list right now. kitaman and Drazerk are "confirmed" and I'm "confirmed" if you'll believe me. So that means if all three of us are townies, then mafia fucked themselves over with their kill last night cause we'd just vote between GGQ, Cyber_cheese, heist, and TS. A three in four chance to lynch a mafia.

I believe GGQ to be town so in that case it's just full on lynch of three mafia ezpz. But there's no way they would have done this. One of kita and Drazerk is 100% scum. I'm actually willing to believe both are.

##vote: kitaman27

At this point you need to explain actually (paraphrase) how your role works, who you picked to track every single night and why. I'm currently going through your logs. Also, Drazerk, who did you protect night 1?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:12 GMT
#2787
As the game heads towards late game, "confirmed townies" get more and more troublesome for mafia. The fact that you weren't offed yet is weird. There's no way mafia would try to run a gambit of "let's keep them alive so people would vote them" especially because a medic could fuck over their KP and if the RB ever got killed the tracker would destroy them. They had no problems shooting other people they probably blue hunted, why wouldn't they shoot you two?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
October 02 2011 01:14 GMT
#2788
On October 02 2011 09:36 chaoser wrote:
These kills make no sense, one of kita or drazerk is mafia, maybe both. If kita was actually tracker, mafia would have killed him outright. The possibility that we would lynch the RB increases as the number of players in the game dwindles. The day RB is lynched, mafia is fucked cause they would have to kill Drazerk first before they coul kill kita, letting him get off a track which would probably out the next person of theirs. At the very least they would have killed Drazerk to set up the stage to kill kita if their RB gets lynched. I'm going to look over the log he posted, try to see if there's discrepancies.

@GGQ, no matter what you think I am, if I was SK then town has already lost. There'd be 3 KP in play and there'd only be 3 townies left if I was SK. That would mean town has lost the game. Now, you can either believe that I'm SK and submit to the fact that town has already lost the game, or you can believe that I'm now a vanilla townie and help me lynch mafia. If I was really still SK I would have shot someone I believed to be mafia last night. That would have made it 3 townies-2 mafia-1 me, still LYLO. Right now, if I was SK, I would have to rely on town to win the game. You really think I would do that as SK?


Oh i agree that the right move is to lynch scum, not sk. We no longer have a lynch to use on you, so I'm just stating for the record that I don't believe you.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:16 GMT
#2789
On October 02 2011 10:14 GGQ wrote:
Oh i agree that the right move is to lynch scum, not sk. We no longer have a lynch to use on you, so I'm just stating for the record that I don't believe you.


I guess you'll have to wait till the end of the game to see it to believe it then
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:17 GMT
#2790
You were hit!

Also the Ring is gone. But you are Theon Greyjoy, the Kraken's heir, and though you can no longer return home with glory you might as well stay here. The Elven females are pretty hot. Gotta do something about that stupid evil Lord though.

You are now Theon Greyjoy, Vanilla Townie!

That's the paraphrased PM curu sent me if you care.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 02 2011 01:18 GMT
#2791
oh god, we seriously don't have to go through the "kita's lying about a tracker" conversation again do we?

My role allows me to track a person and receive a description of the action(s) they took at night.

On night one I tracked wherebugsgo and was informed he did not leave his house.

On night two I tracked chaoser and learned he returned with blood on on his hands.

On night three I tracked ON and was informed he did not leave his house

Night four and five I was roleblocked.

draz protected igrok night one. Its apparently how igrok survived syllo's day vig.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#2792
Night four and five I was roleblocked.


Who did you track and would have gotten results on had you not been roleblocked?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#2793
Pyo night four and trance night five.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#2794
draz, who did you protect last night?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:26 GMT
#2795
Well ok, I know there has to be at least one mafia between you and Draz, so right now we're down to a 50/50 chance. I will be rereading
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:28 GMT
#2796
Actually, assuming Curu balanced the game, Drazerk has a higher chance than you for being mafia.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 02 2011 01:28 GMT
#2797
chaoser, my timestamps line up correctly with my conversation with radfield right? If I'm lying about being masoned, how in the world did I provide them within 2 min of being asked of them? Pretty huge risk for me to have randomly made up times and hope they worked. If I'm lying about being a tracker, how in the world did I know you killed someone night two. Pretty huge risk for me to have banked on the fact that you hit someone. And you're seriously voting me at LYLO?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:30 GMT
#2798
On October 02 2011 10:28 kitaman27 wrote:
chaoser, my timestamps line up correctly with my conversation with radfield right? If I'm lying about being masoned, how in the world did I provide them within 2 min of being asked of them? Pretty huge risk for me to have randomly made up times and hope they worked. If I'm lying about being a tracker, how in the world did I know you killed someone night two. Pretty huge risk for me to have banked on the fact that you hit someone. And you're seriously voting me at LYLO?


I'm not. It's just my preliminary vote as I read through everything. I need to reread first and then I will make my final vote.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#2799
On October 02 2011 10:08 chaoser wrote:
22. Cyber_Cheese
27. heist
30. TranceStorm

5. kitaman27
28. Drazerk

23. chaoser
6. GGQ

Here's my list right now. kitaman and Drazerk are "confirmed" and I'm "confirmed" if you'll believe me. So that means if all three of us are townies, then mafia fucked themselves over with their kill last night cause we'd just vote between GGQ, Cyber_cheese, heist, and TS. A three in four chance to lynch a mafia.

I believe GGQ to be town so in that case it's just full on lynch of three mafia ezpz. But there's no way they would have done this. One of kita and Drazerk is 100% scum. I'm actually willing to believe both are.

##vote: kitaman27

At this point you need to explain actually (paraphrase) how your role works, who you picked to track every single night and why. I'm currently going through your logs. Also, Drazerk, who did you protect night 1?


This seems like good methodology to attack 'confirmed' townies.
WIFOM applies
Assume you get to late game, and all three mafia are with 3 confirmed town and 3 suspects
If mafia kill two suspects, they can shift the focus to the living confirmed town.

There is two paths we should look down:
A) Does that mean there's no mafia outside of the confirmed town? If not, is it more viable to pursue them?
B) Confirmed by who exactly?

Here I'm going to assume what you say is correct, and Kitaman OR Drazerk is mafia, and further assuming that you are in fact town and got that information from your back and forth with Palmar in the win conditions. (The latter half of that one being a fairly logical derivative of Palmar knowing what was going on before he left.)

That leaves two mafia amongst four people, and it should be easier to spot someone scummy amongst them than in the confirmed townies section.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 02 2011 01:51 GMT
#2800
In that case I'd vote for you
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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